Hardly glaring, the fact that his birthday is in the off season causes the confusion.
Anyway, four more goals than Welbeck, huge gulf in class
.Is he waffling?!
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Hardly glaring, the fact that his birthday is in the off season causes the confusion.
Anyway, four more goals than Welbeck, huge gulf in class
.Is he waffling?!
He turned 21 in the off season, so you can post as much bolded, giant letters as you like.
Every one of those players started the listed season as a 20 year old. This means literally the exact same thing, but if your mind can cope better with it then use that instead. Footballers aren't all born at the exact same time of the year you know, this was by far the fairest way of doing the comparison.
I just find it funny that you've stooped to picking on one mistake as a way of distracting from the larger point that everybody's trying to explain to you. Here we go again:
Generally strikers, even world class one's, don't score huge amounts of goals at 21. You've been provided with numerous examples.
Still, that Gomez mistake, what a fecker.
Oh for feck sake. What are you even on about? Seeing as how Welbeck was 21 for the majority of the season, I'm inclined to look it at it from that standpoint.
Penalties and Free kicks to a lesser extent Not really something I'd bother comparing. Plus I think an attribute that gets overlooked is attitude and Welbeck is miles superior in this department.
Technique-welbeck for me
Team Ethic isn't the same thing as Work Rate either. What an idiot!
What the feck I'm on about is that you keep insisting my stats are wrong, but they're only wrong if you completely ignore what they're actually based on. So now you've embarassed yourself by chatting absolute shite you've decided you actually mean something entirely different.
And all of this as part of some desperate attempt to prove the only young Mancunian we've brought through this century is, by your account, not good enough, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
I'm certainly looking forward to a response from Lynk...
3 of them were wrong. And you can't seem to let go of the Gomez stat and keep making excuses to try and further your point.
I'm expressing an honest opinion, him being Mancunian is nice, but I can separate sentiment and judge him for what he is. This whole argument occured because you are insisting he is good enough to lead the line for Manchester United. I'm telling you on current viewing, he isn't.
21 year old not yet good enough to lead line for one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Shocking.
Shocking.
Hence the "current" bit.
Keep on being bitter though.
Keep on being bitter though.
Which three were wrong?
Except that's not what my stats were based on, is it? So how exactly was I wrong?
Then they can't be wrong, you're just using different parameters. This nonsense debate's gone round in circles for a few pages now - let it die or the thread will be closed temporarily.
Indeed. The other larger point being Welbeck has scored 1 more goal in open play from 6 more CL and PL appearances over the last season and a half yet for some reason Lynk is adamant that "this isn't even debatable" despite using goals as the biggest indicator of a striker's quality.
Llorente - 12 goals in 40, At. Bilbao
David Villa - 20 goals in 40 for Gijon
Gomez - 16 goals in 30 for Stuttgart
Gomez was never even 21 in the stat we debated. He turned 21 in an off season.
Not bitter, just pointing out that your observation is hardly ground breaking.
fecking state of this thread
Well, setting aside the contentious issue of birthdays and when exactly the stats should run from, it seems clear young strikers get better with age. Which is presumably something we can all be happy about in Welbeck's case.
The last three pages summed up
I can't even read all this bullshit. Some of you are ridiculous, goals aren't everything and he's going through a bit of a rough patch, give him some time. He's shown enough to allow him that, that's without even mentioning that he's a lifelong fan and been in our academy since he was 9. The potential is there for everyone to see, he isn't the finished product but there's clearly plenty to work with. And if you'd rather have Balotelli in your team than you're an idiot, no matter how much better you think Balotelli is.
This is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to impatience. IF you based it off last season, most people would have said he was fine. In fact, many thought Hernandez was off due to Danny displacing him. Shows how quickly views change. Why give up on the lad now? Because of some inconsistent performances? Doesn't help when the team as a whole has been disjointed for some time now. In actuality, he really hasn't had THAT much time.
From last game:
Welbeck will be here for many years and will be a big part of our success
A part he will play, but no way will he be a big part.
Welbeck has one problem and that is that he has to poor body control. I hoped it would become better as he built his physic and stopped growing/developing, but it seems that it will never get better. That is for me the only thing that will hold him back from playing a big part in our future success. It makes him clumsy, sadly, it's more evident when he gets into situations that make him a bit stressed.
Balotelli is awesome, you guys were right.
Balotelli is a class apart from Welbeck.
Balotelli's in a class of his own.
Won the ball that got us the free kick...
Did more in 5 mins than Mario did in 50. Attitude matters.
Yep
Exactly. Even if you consider his stats to not be good enough, the lad makes things happen. He doesn't let you down with his workrate and defensive ability.
Game changer (of sorts). His up-the-field pressing is bettered by no one else amongst our battery of strikers and its paid off handsomely here.
Didn't have much time to influence the game but did it anyway. Showed the will the fight and it helped us win the game. His contribution might seem small, but every little bit helps.
I actually thought Ballotelli was quite good for us today...
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A lot of people sadly don't get that.
Just came to say this. Well done Welbz
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