Just need to keep playing him. Eventually he becomes a 90-rated forward with 95+ in acceleration, sprint speed, AND finishing in fifa 13. Beast.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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Am I the only person on Caf who things Welbeck isn't good enough and won't make it at United?
Why is he so overrated by United fans? Is it because he's from the youth system? He's around on-par with Macheda in terms of performance. What concerns me is that he looks relatively good in an England squad, but performs a lot worse in comparisons to United's counterparts.
He's not a great finisher, he hasn't scored many goals this season, despite having a fair bit of playing time at United? He losses the ball a fair bit in good positions, and doesn't hold the ball well. He doesn't head well, or good in setpieces. Doesn't has an averagedfirst-touch. Doesn't create a whole lot either.
I would give him one or two more seasons at united (he's 22 already).
Am I the only person on Caf who things Welbeck isn't good enough and won't make it at United?
Why is he so overrated by United fans? Is it because he's from the youth system? He's around on-par with Macheda in terms of performance. What concerns me is that he looks relatively good in an England squad, but performs a lot worse in comparisons to United's counterparts.
He's not a great finisher, he hasn't scored many goals this season, despite having a fair bit of playing time at United? He losses the ball a fair bit in good positions, and doesn't hold the ball well. He doesn't head well, or good in setpieces. Doesn't has an averagedfirst-touch. Doesn't create a whole lot either.
I would give him one or two more seasons at united (he's 22 already).
Um...what?
Didn't think he had the best of games when he came on. But I wouldn't say he doesn't have the potential to be good enough for United. He was very good last season and just needs time to develop his composure in front of goal.
He isn't really suited to a wide position though. Needs players close to him to play the ball about.
He isn't really suited to a wide position though. Needs players close to him to play the ball about.
There are certainly a few wummites that spout this absolute bollocks as well. He has everything in his locker to make it at United.
If he doesn't have the goals to back up his play, he won't make it. He's not a good finisher. I just hope for his sake he improves this area massively because he can't score to save his life.
Playing regularly on the wings doesn't help. He is only 22, give him time. As he starts to play more centrally the goals will come. He has everything else in his repertoire.
" He's around on-par with Macheda in terms of performance. " 
How many starts has he had so far this season playing as a proper striker? It's an unfortunate situation for him and Fergie tries to involve him but he's just not a winger.
We all knew this would happen when we signed Van Persie. He's our fourth choice striker now since Hernandez is more capable when coming off the bench.
I don't see the situation changing any time soon either.
I don't see the situation changing any time soon either.
Better tonight. Still not what he was at the start of 2011-12, but better than recently.
Except for goals it seems.
Goals are a direct byproduct of his ability. You can't just have 'goals' in your locker whoever you are. They come from having at least some sort of technical ability. You lose your pace and suddenly the goals will dry up, you lose your strength and graft, goals will dry up. You lose your technical ability to pick a pass and drop deeper into the midfield and you're not Wayne Rooney? Goals will dry up.
Citizen of Planet Wum.
So apt.
Depends. Inzaghi was not much of a player aside from his goals.
didnt see the game, hopefully he played more centrally today rather than on the wing
doing tonnes of wild skills all of a sudden, something you would see at the astro turf.
He was our best player when had the ball, too bad he saw to little of it.
Excellent work rate and if everyone played with his attitude and fire, we'd have won
Plenty of Sunday League players with those attributes.
The problem is, even on his good days, he rarely scores or assists. I suppose if Fergie is still persevering with Macheda after the last two years, he'll give Welbeck to his mid-twenties to come good.
He already came good last season.
He scored 15 goals and got 5 assists last season.
12 goals actually.
Depends what you consider "good". 12 goals is fine for a breakout season, but a player leading the line for Manchester United? Not nearly enough.
The goals will come, he only just turned 22 and luckily from us we can afford for him to go through a bad patch.
He shouldn't be playing out on the wings but due to their own poor form he has had to.
He shouldn't be playing out on the wings but due to their own poor form he has had to.
It's worth looking up what some of the EPL's greatest goals scorers were doing when they were the age Welbeck was last season.
Pure product of Manchester United.
SAF and coaches must be proud but the real goods will come when he'll reach his maturity. He's gonna be unstoppable with his natural pace and technique.
SAF and coaches must be proud but the real goods will come when he'll reach his maturity. He's gonna be unstoppable with his natural pace and technique.
Most of them didn't have the quality around them that Welbeck has. And Welbeck frankly isn't going to be one the greatest strikers (imo)
I agree. However, the only team he's led the line for this season is England and his stats for them are good.
They matured and scored truckloads for the exact same clubs, so that's not much of an excuse.
Shearer, Henry, Ronaldo, Ruud, all of them were posting similar stats as Welbeck at 20.
This isn't a comparison to say Welbeck will become that good, but to show that shock horror most young strikers aren't all that prolific, even the greats.
Top 5 English goalscorers in the Premier League at 21.
Alan Shearer - 21 goals, Southampton
Andy Cole - 12 goals in 12 appearances, Newcastle
Robbie Fowler - 36 goals, Liverpool
Lampard - 14 goals, West Ham
Michael Owen - 24 goals, Liverpool
All playing in inferior teams.
Shearer scored 14 the season before when he was 20/21 and then 21 goals the next year as you say. This is the greatest goalscorer of all time we're talking about. Welbeck's hardly a million miles away is he considering he's a different type of striker?
I can't argue with Fowler or Owen, exceptional goalscorers at a young age.
Ruud was playing in the Dutch second division, scored 13.
Ronaldo was here, posted similar stats to Welbeck.
Henry was doing nothing.
In my opinion it's shortsighted to write off a young striker who is at least producing similar stats to some of the all time greats.
Err, your tagline spoiled the party.
And neither of them had partner who scored around 30 goals.
Welbeck doesn't really need to be scoring right now, we have plenty of people capable of that. It'd obviously be nice, yeah, but it's not currently necessary. I'm happy to see him given playing time, it's a shame that most of his playing time has come on the wing though.
People saying he isn't good enough are crazy, I think he has shown enough potential to give him at least a couple years to iron out some issues before we begin saying he isn't good enough. His work ethic, movement, and quick/short passing alone add a great deal of positivity to the team.
People saying he isn't good enough are crazy, I think he has shown enough potential to give him at least a couple years to iron out some issues before we begin saying he isn't good enough. His work ethic, movement, and quick/short passing alone add a great deal of positivity to the team.
Gonna stop you right there. He's a striker, scoring is his job.
He played two games maximum this season as a striker.
He hasn't exactly been playing as one this season...
If he were and had the same scoring record I'd still not be bothered by it though. As long as he is positively contributing to the team I'm happy. I said the same with Berbatov and I'll say the same for Welbeck. I'm not too worried about the goals anyway, he's shown plenty of times in the past that he's a very capable goal scorer.
Rooney 19 in 48 games
Welbeck 12 in In 39 games
Comparisons at 21yrs old and this is Rooney the great English produce of the last 30yrs.
There's a definite trend of young strikers getting better as they get older.
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