His finishing is inconsistent, rather than generally poor. Inconsistency can be ironed out. He's scored enough fantastic goals to prove that he can do it.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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His finishing is inconsistent, rather than generally poor. Inconsistency can be ironed out. He's scored enough fantastic goals to prove that he can do it.
Perhaps - but I think his involvement for England may preclude that. He truned down Ghana where he'd probably have made a world cup at some stage, so it clearly matters a great deal to him.
I can't see how a squad player, even at a top club, can neccessarily be an England regular, especially as a forward. If you're not playing and scoring regularly you're often out for the forward who is. The media in England have a huge role in that, unlike in other countries.
I think that could be the difference betwen him and other players who've been happy to be squad players - the likes of O'Shea still played regularly for their national side.
Precisely the point I'm making - he will be happy now. Maybe not so if he's only getting 15 games a year against the Wigans and Stokes. Four years is a long time and players who may develop elsewhere playing week in week out, may not reach their potential if they're not getting regular games.
Still, who knows - he's a good player with a lot of potential and hopefully he can force his way in.
But you're assuming in four years, both players will be in the exact same situation which to me is a bit odd. I think both players will force themselves in eventually. Both have fantastic potential and we're seeing signs of their game coming together. I find it interesting how on the Caf we seem to judge Danny as a underperforming seasoned striker. He's still ironing out parts of his game. Sir Alex knows that. Danny knows that. He's got a good head on his shoulders.
I just don't see both him and Hernandez having to wait on the bench for most games in four years time. Something has to give and with their rate of progression, I think they'll see more games sooner than that. Obviously with the quality of RVP and Rooney, they will be held back a bit but RVP and Roo aren't getting any younger and my view is by then, there could be more rotation between the 4 of them.
I just don't see both him and Hernandez having to wait on the bench for most games in four years time. Something has to give and with their rate of progression, I think they'll see more games sooner than that. Obviously with the quality of RVP and Rooney, they will be held back a bit but RVP and Roo aren't getting any younger and my view is by then, there could be more rotation between the 4 of them.
There aren't many English players who are first teamers at a CL club. The alternative is dross like Bent and Agbonlahor. England should go for the players who are at the top clubs, regardless of whether they start 20 or 40 games a season. So long as he performs well when he plays for England he'll be fine. I think the fans have taken to him, and his contributions so far have been good.
He did but I'm not really sure you're making point you're trying to make (for the umpteenth time). It's not like Danny was ever present and Chicha never played. Welbeck was involved in 30 league games (23 starts), Hernandez played in 28, starting 19. Every other stat goes comfortably in Danny's favor despite him not playing every game in his preferred position.
It's not that hard to spot.
nice goal. great movement and awareness from welbeck to finish off that cross from young. hope we will see more of him making similar kind of movements inside the box for us.
The Germans select players based on their performances for their country, and that's why Klose always gets picked, even when he was sat rooted on the Bayern bench. England would do well to copy a much better footballing nation.
I know, I was just saying given Keane is a hard man to please.
Welbeck very rarely played on the wings last season. Hernandez was also dogged by injuries.
We should play him as a wide forward in more games, he has the ability to play there. Him, Rooney and RVP in behind Hernandez. I'd love to see that played a few times, could be lethal.
A wide forward still essentially plays on the wing, which he's done a few times this season and looked completely lost. I think he needs to be more central to be at his best.
Aye, but you could have Rooney, Welbeck and RVP switching positions left, right and centre, Hernandez right up top, the three floating in behind. Would be fun to see how it worked.
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Danny Welbeck has scored with all of his first five shots on target for England. Update.
Danny Welbeck has scored with all of his first five shots on target for England. Update.
Definitely. It's a good quote.
Speaking of injuries; last season was the first in many which wasn't severely hampered by growth related ones for Welbeck, which not only means that he's "younger" in terms of development than his birth certificate would indicate, but, considering the level he did reach despite few prolonged periods of fitness, also speaks volumes about his talent. You might wanna consider that.
What's your point here? Amos has been here all his life and De Gea's better than him.
Something similar didn't help Berbatov did it? If you perform regularly you play.
Hernandez is 24, Danny 21.
So Danny has had 3 less years to develop. And in the United first team squad, Hernandez has had 1 extra season.
Basically your point isn't a very good one.
Would be something different to watch and would pull defenses all over the place. Though the lack of width may stop it working long term as teams learn to just play a very narrow defensive formation and crowd us out. Guess at that point you either hope Rafael/evra provide the width or your sub a winger on at some point
SAF said in his press conference earlier that maybe we've been a bit unfair on Welbeck as he's played out wide in most of his appearances this season when he's a natural striker (I'm paraphrasing - it was something along those lines). Hopefully he'll get to play the remaining CL group games as the no.9 and he'll have a decent team behind him giving him good service.
I've seen him getting equal ratings with Powell, Hernandez and Jones in the match thread, and I'm just gonna say, they're wrong. Bar 1-2 good bits of play, his touch was extremely heavy tonight, always seemed to misplace it, and or overrun it.
Not having that Lynk, thought he did very well.
I thought the run in the first half was great, but generally his touch seemed off.
He has such an erratic first touch, did well I feel, nuisance all night. Has strength and speed, just needs to bring his technical abilities in line because he has them.
I thought he was superior to Hernandez tonight.
Dissapointing. Nothing coming off for hin atm
Now that's total and absolute bollocks. Hernandez was superior in every area I felt.
What a strange fecking day on the Caf. Usually there's some uniformity with the post-match comments but we're all over the place today. Welbeck was bright at times but didn't have a good performance for me. Too many loose touches and was slack in his passing. He'll see better days. Just wasn't quite at it today as he usually is.I agree Lynk. I bumped his thread as he really impressed me with his overall play once again.
I was thinking that.
I thought he was wasteful and sloppy today. Wanted a lot, but not much came off.
Short of confidence, as so many others. Sigh.
Short of confidence, as so many others. Sigh.
Hernandez? Yeah, he's vastly improved that side of his game. Dropped deep at times to get it and looked lively.
I wasn't that impressed by him today. Couldn't make the ball stick. That crazy run he did is a good example of why he'll probably be great at some point in the future, but can't bring it all together for now.
He was very good in the first half. Faded away in the second half.
Chica for some strange reason was the exact opposite. Average in first half, very good in second half.
Chica for some strange reason was the exact opposite. Average in first half, very good in second half.
Showed his class on occasion, unsurprisingly most of said occasions happened in more central areas. He's just not as confident out wide but he's getting better at involving himself from the flank.
I was really annoyed that he just couldn't pick the easy pass out for Powell three touches earlier. It made the whole run pointless. Lacks composure when arriving in dangerous areas.
Badly needs a goal. He doesn't even look like scoring at the minute which is a concern.
The 2 vs. 1 situation when he messed up the pass and played it in behind drove me crazy. Should have been a goal really. (I think it was him 
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)The 2 vs. 1 situation when he messed up the pass and played it in behind drove me crazy. Should have been a goal really. (I think it was him
Yeah, he should've played it with the outside of his foot ahead of Hernandez but used the inside and it curled behind Hernandez.
Would've been an easy finish. Decisions in the final third needs working on.
Had a deer in the headlight look about him last night.
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