Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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I was just having a gander at the highlights. Anyone else notice the way he stopped and stood still when Cahil had his volley. Hard to tell on the shitty video I had but it looked like a more instinctive striker would have followed it in to at least challenge the keeper.

Sometimes. Not all the time.

Its one of those funny things in football, for some reason whenever a poacher isnt playing in a team and the ball has a chance of a rebound or is flashed across the box someone has to say "Hernandez/Van Nistelrooy/etc. would have been getting on the end of that/following up". And then they play in a match and the ball has a chance of a rebound or is flashed across the box and they arent always there to tap it in. But nobody pipes up and says that a poacher would have been in there to do it because a poacher is already on the pitch and has just proven them wrong.

Sometimes Welbeck himself scores a poachers goal or a simple tap in from a rebound but few people will commend him for it. Instead they'll wait for an instance where he doesnt follow up and get a tap in and then remark about it
 
I know what you mean about 'gliding' with the ball. When he is running into space he strokes the ball with his foot. I also feel that he works well in tight spaces when required to do intricate one touch passing. For me, however, that does not equate to gracefulness. A term that I reserve for players the ilk of Zidane, Cazorla and Iniesta.

Think you mean Silva to some extent. Not Cazorla :wenger:
 
Good player, not clinical enough. Hopefully that improves with time.

I don't think he's graceful either. Not that it matters.
 
Honestly dont think he's anything like Kanu. Kanu with the ball at his feet was unpredictable and hard to tackle and that unpredictability was his biggest weapon, Welbeck is very different. He very often plays a predictable and structured pass to the right man in his build up play and thats why he rarely makes a bad pass and always has high accuracy %. Of course he mixes it up with some very nice flicks but again it tends to be to the person you knew he was going to pass the ball to, rather than something thats completely unpredictable.

I think he's more like Balotelli in his style, but obviously nowhere near the strength (or cuntishness) of him. But unlike Kanu or Balotelli he's become a real hard worker for the team since his loan to Sunderland and he makes unselfish runs, tackles and works back.
 
Glad to hear he got on the score sheet for england. Hopefully it gives him confidence in his own shooting and he starts putting away the chances that he has so far been missing for united now.
 
His tracking back from forward positions is devastating. He wins so many tackles out of pure effort. Better than Kuyt, Tevez and Rooney at this already. He really is a workhorse.
 
Roy to choose between Welbeck and Defoe ... and Rooney's United pal has the edge

By Matt Lawton

PUBLISHED: 21:00 GMT, 14 October 2012 | UPDATED: 21:00 GMT, 14 October 2012



On paper the choice between Danny Welbeck and Jermain Defoe for Tuesday's encounter in Poland looks like a difficult one for Roy Hodgson.

When the England manager considers Welbeck he will no doubt note the four goals that make him the highest scorer of his 10-game reign, with two of them in Friday’s victory over San Marino. Then he might take into account the 10 goals Welbeck has scored in 45 league appearances for Manchester United, and the fact that he has developed a useful understanding with Wayne Rooney.

There is also a compelling argument for Defoe. Two goals for England, one of which came against Italy, and four for Tottenham underline how sharp he is looking this season. Since returning to White Hart Lane in January 2009, he has struck 40 times in 96 league games. No mean return.

Welbeck has not scored for United this season and the arrival of Robin van Persie has made it that much more difficult for the 21-year-old to make an impact. Hodgson mentioned as much at Wembley on Friday night.

But if he also values the potential to become a top-class international striker who could make an impact for England at the next World Cup, the decision surely becomes a bit easier.

There was a reason why Sir Alex Ferguson predicted as early as he did that Welbeck would become a senior England international. Welbeck has real talent, and all the necessary attributes to become an established member of the national side.

It is not just the relationship he has developed with Rooney at Old Trafford. He ticks all the physical boxes with his pace, strength, height and agility, and a degree of skill that sets him apart from every other contender for the place alongside Rooney.

Tom Cleverley has grown up with Welbeck too, a product of the same United academy. ‘Danny’s top class,’ said Cleverley at the England hotel on Sunday. ‘His movement, which he’s always working on, his touch, his finishing, pace, power. He’s got everything to be a top-class striker.

‘We’ve got a great strikeforce for England and he’s part of that.’

Hodgson does have options. As well as Welbeck and Defoe there is Andy Carroll. There is Darren Bent too, if he can resolve his apparent differences with Paul Lambert, or move from Aston Villa and perform as he did at Sunderland.

But Welbeck is the star turn and it will be interesting to see if Hodgson agrees or returns to a striker who will be nearly 32 come Brazil.

Defoe is a decent player and more than worthy of a place in the squad. He has commanded transfer fees in excess of £30million during his career and in more recent years he has stepped out from the shadow of Michael Owen.

At club level he has sometimes struggled to remain in favour with his managers, even if it was Juande Ramos who sold him to Portsmouth before Harry Redknapp lured him back to north London.

As Gary Neville has said, Welbeck needs to score more. But goals will come when he is in the team, such is the threat England possess when he’s alongside Rooney.

After Friday’s game Hodgson said: ‘Danny wasn’t on everyone’s lips when I took him to the Euros. Since then I think he has had to fight very hard to get a place in the Manchester United team because the competition is so great. But he is improving all the time.’

He is young but he is also gifted; bright too. Bright enough to learn and bright enough to understand what it takes to fulfil his potential. ‘I’m used to playing with Wazza (Rooney) up front at United and I’m really relishing the chance to play with him for England,’ said Welbeck.

‘Once we get into positions in and around the box, we know different styles of combinations to play.’

From his vantage point in central midfield, Michael Carrick can see what Welbeck brings to a side when he partners Rooney.

‘I am a massive fan of Danny,’ he said. ‘I am probably a bit biased because of the United connection, but ever since I have seen him I have been a huge fan and I expect big things of him.

‘He has had a terrific couple of years now. People were looking at him when we signed Van Persie saying, “Where is his position, where is he going to fit in?”

‘But he has shown he is still a major part of it and he was terrific again against San Marino.

‘He is talented. He can create and score goals. He can play different positions. He is modest too, what you’d expect coming through the ranks at United.

‘The manager sets standards for the young lads and Danny doesn’t get carried away. He works hard. That is one of his biggest assets.’

So many assets. Hodgson surely can’t ignore him.
 
The finishing will come. Finishing is one hell of a skill to master. Rarely do young players get it right.

Rooney is the perfect example. When he was a teenager he could score the cracker but also put a one-on-one chance right into the keepers chest or blast over.

Now Rooney is so much smarter in front of goal. Knows when to aim for the legs, keep it in the corner, or go for straight power.

I think Welbeck is a little overanxious in front of goal and needs to know what technique to use faster. This will come with repetition and learning from mistakes.

I have faith.
 
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Valencia and Scholes in the team suggests otherwise, today anyway.

He's still crap in the diamond as well, to be honest.
 
Dont understand it myself. Its been tried before, doesnt work. Just play players in their correct positions.
 
Hernandez should've started this. He has a great record against Stoke, not to mention Welbeck has been poor this season.
 
No, Nani should have started this. He's a left winger, and we're playing a striker on the left wing.

Sometimes common sense and SAF don't get along when it comes to team selections.
 
Hernandez wouldn't be an upgrade, he's played on the left even less than Danny ffs.

Agree with Cina, if we are playing a formation with wingers then play a fecking winger.
 
His link up play is great. Ok, the finishing is off.

But atleast he isn't a selfish cnut like Nani.
 
Eh? Aside from hitting the bar he's been poor. Although, the bigger problem is not Welbeck, but him playing out of position.

I thought he's been excellent, he just can't seem to finish for us right now. His passing and running at defenders has been very good, as well as his defensive efforts.

I don't really see how anyone can say he's been poor unless you're judging him completely on his finishing.
 
Every pissing finish Welbeck has is scrutinised to the maximum right now, it's fecking ridiculous.
 
Like the team, he has played better as the half went on.

However, he should not be playing as a winger (not his fault) and needs to work on his finishing, all other parts of his game are very good.
 
Welbeck is magnificent, a fantastic athlete. He just needs to add goals and some clinical play to his game and he will be a complete centre forward.
 
He has done well.. Finishing is off. Very inconsistent in that department..
And he isnt a winger.. so dont expect him to skin full backs and whip crosses in with his wrong foot..

As a player, he has done well. Love seeing him run with the ball.
 
Well. That's shut me up. Well in Danny.
 
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If Welbeck can adapt to this inside forward position, definitely.
 
Needs games to adapt to that position which is why Fergie is persisting with him. I would have started with Nani though. But rather Welbeck over Giggs at this stage.
 
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