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Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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Hell yes.
"It's like a new signing".
Excellent news. Now for Nani's contract...
Good.
Hopefully Nani follows suit asap.
Hopefully Nani follows suit asap.
Ergh... Anyone else get the impression this is just a load of different news outlets copying the original article from the Daily Heil?
Comes as no surprise. He was never going anywhere.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7989328/Welbeck-agrees-United-deal
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7989328/Welbeck-agrees-United-deal
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and they call themselves United fans, I wonder if this muppet is on here?
This is terrible news, even as a United fan I think he's rubbish - Sturridge is a much better player IMO. Waste of money.
Good news if true, he has plenty of room for improvement and is already a decent player.
So what's going to happen to Danny's form, improvement, and maturation if RVP is signed? Seems to me it would be a disaster.
Very happy for the lad, hopefully Nani is going to sign next.
I don't think so seeing as Danny is pretty adept at playing on the wing, either as a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2.
If we go far in all competitions, there'll be plenty of game time for all, not mention Rooney and especially Van Persie's usual injury spells.
Most of these who are against him earning that much, probably never wanted to see him signing new contract in first place, because they wanted to include him in Persie's transfer. cnuts.
Competition for places, eh? However will he cope?
On the other hand, do you have 100% faith that Welbeck can be our 2nd choice striker; i.e. he should be playing in most of our 442 matches, and be the striker to tide us through the whole season, if Rooney gets injured? No doubt he did a decent job last season, but in terms of end product, I do sincerely believe he was lacking; not just goals, but assists too. Without Wayne, we would've struggled to get goals.
Right now, I'm very scared in the drop in quality our team will suffer if we lose Evra, Rooney or Carrick long term. In sport, there's no substitute for quality! Even with the Carrick situation, Scholes, Cleverley and Anderson are good enough to be there for an extended stretch of time, especially with what those younger 2 have been showing in preseason, esp. Cleverley.
But, if we decide to play 442 for any extended stretch of time with Welbeck and Hernandez, I think we'll struggle, especially if we're playing the bigger teams. There's no doubt the goal burden was on Wayne Rooney last season, and I don't think Welbeck's ready to take on that burden if Rooney's injured. With a 4231, I'd rather also be playing with Berbatov and Kagawa, if we didn't get RvP, than with Welbeck (Or Chicharito); the amount of chances Welbeck's missing, and the lack of confidence Hernandez has, I'm thinking that we'd do very well to bolster out attack with RvP.
We can have a top quality striker playing in every single game next season, if we bring in RvP. The partnership between them will be formidable. As Pogue also said; most of our games are against weak opposition, and we'd even be able to chuck in Kagawa to play with RvP and Rooney a lot of the time; against weaker teams at home, our CB's are often camped on the halfway line, and a retired footballer said a few months ago, that it's very hard to get out when United do that to you, hence we'd be able to have a sort of 4132; because we'll have 3 players covering the other team's only strikers, with everyone else on the opposition defending on their box!
Despite what I've said however, I do believe Welbeck has the talent to become a very important player for us (Although I don't think he'll have enough to become THE permanent first choice for us in his career), but at the same time, I think it's prudent to not go in with a 21-22 year old who has less than 10 league goals for you, as your second choice striker.
He'll get the games; it's Hernandez who'll be more likely to be restricted to mainly substitute appearances if that.
However, I really don't want Welbeck to be shoehorned into starting as a wide player for us. He's nowhere near as good as Nani, Valencia, Young, Kagawa or Giggs as a winger, or even wide forward. His interplay is good, but I don't think his vision, passing range, crossing ability nor shooting, nor dribbling is as good as ANY of those players and even if it is, they provide far more as a package out wide.
I don't even really like Rooney to be shoehorned in there, but at least Wayne is our best player and we can let him be the more offensive winger (and in doing so, disrupt our system, which SAF doesn't like to do for 1 player, as he said relating to Kagawa's signing but in this case, it IS for an exceptional player); i.e. like CR7 is at madrid ("LF"), then we'll have a massive goal threat from all 3 directions! (If anyone thinks Valencia's passing range is as limited as his left foot, I was shocked to see Tony V being the lad that coolly played in Nani with a sharp 1-2, and he's actually marvellous at it!).
I doubt it will be a disaster. No one expected Welbeck to have the impact he did last season when he came back from loan. Yet he managed to get above chicha and berbatov in the pecking order.
Competition for places is nothing new at united and could possible force welbeck to improve further. Plus Welbeck is fairly versatile, so can pick up game time in a few other positions like out wide, so either way he is going to get plenty of games still next season.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7989328/Welbeck-agrees-United-deal
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I hate football fans.
Probably Liverpool fans masquerading as United fans, quite easy to do on tinternet.
Any United fan with half a brain can see the huge potential of Welbeck.
There are plenty who don't though.
I have this debate with United fans in my office on a regular basis.
I have this debate with United fans in my office on a regular basis.
I'd stop debating then if I was you, on the basis that you shouldn't argue with idiots.
fair enough, it's unusual to hear this but I believe you. I for one am a huge fan of Welbeck and truly and honestly expect him to make it big, not only be a huge player for us for years to come but hopefully also be one of the best in the world in his position, if he keeps working he can do it, he's got all the credentials needed.
And the funny thing is even my mates who are fans of Arsenal, City, Liverpool and Chelsea all seem to agree with me on this subject (and we barely agree on anything due to everyone being a bit biased).
You and all these rival fans think that he can become one of the best in the world in his position i.e. Comparable to Rooney (Who is also one of the best in the world, and isn't the best)?
I don't think he'll ever ever enter Rooney's league, to be honest. Nowhere near Wazza's league.
Going OTT no ?
I think he won't reach the heights that were expected of Rooney when he had first entered the scene but he may well become the player Rooney has been for the last couple of years. In fact I'm quite positive he can do so.
Well, I had no idea people saw THAT much potential in him.
I saw him as a potential number 2 option for us, throughout his whole career; for the next 5-6 years to Rooney, and for the few years after that, to another player of Rooney's calibre (or higher) if we could get one. In fact, when Rooney hit 30-31, we'd already be buying the next 'Aguero' player to replace Rooney; a top class striker is essential for a top 5 European team.
I think you're paying him a little disservice here but you're well entitled to your opinion. The only way I can describe his role in the future as 'the second one' is his position - he may not be the 'main' man in attack, i.e scoring the most goals, but I do believe he will be one of our main star players.
Judging by your opinion I would have said you are still looking at Welbeck from a perspective of year back, before he's already proved he can play well and score against the biggest clubs in England, home and away.
Fair enough, to each his own. And yes reaching Rooney's level is a quite a feat, and while he may not turn out to be quite as good as Rooney he's definetely got all the atributes necessary to make it big if he keeps working hard and improves his finishing among other things.
And I don't think it's fair to just straight out compare one player to another, everyone is their own man, and noone's the same.
We'll see what becomes of him, but I personaly still stick to what I said, and that is that he'll be a terrific striker for us for years to come, he's still got 2-3 years before even reaching his supposed peak, might be even longer since again no player's the same.
He needs to work on his celebration to be fair.
Good news. If RVP is signed I can see him getting less overall playing time than last season, but still enough to benefit his development for sure.
Good news. If RVP is signed I can see him getting less overall playing time than last season, but still enough to benefit his development for sure.
Somebody really, really needs to make a highlights video from the last match Danny Welbeck started for Manchester United. It was one of the standout performances in recent years, and would have won us the title but for, y'know...
I feel he'll be a victim of SAF's second season treatment. He'll test his character by rewarding his excellent previous season with scrappy appearances this season and see how he reacts. Some have emerged from it stronger, others have responded poorly.
This means probably frustrating season for Danny, which is really awfull, as I really expected him to shine this season. I don't like this at all.
Is he injured?
This happens in my office too. There are united fans out there who don't rate him. Have no idea why though, he's quality.
That could be the case if RVP shines and strikes up a partnership with Rooney, however I wouldn't speak so soon. Nobody thought Evans would get much of a look in last season and he had his best season yet with us. You never know, there's still a good chance that events could conspire in a manner which allows Welbeck to play a lot of games and have a good season.
Welbeck wont play as much as he would of had we not signed RVP(obviously), but he'l play far more than some reds are now expecting. He's a huge talent who's 21 years old, a lifelong red, versatile and has a fantastic mentality. He will have a big future and it will be at this at this club. Its possible he could actually benefit from this arrival as there is now less pressure on him if Rooney isn't playing.
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he will still get games. do not worry. plenty of games as the season goes on.
Can you think of many big-name examples? Scholes, Giggs, Ronaldo, Brown, O'Shea and Gary Neville all played more league games the season after their breakthrough season and were in the same age bracket.
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