Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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A year ago there was a thread comparing Welbeck & Sturridge.
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Not that i never rated Welbeck before, i think Sturridge needs better manager.
Well done Welbeck.

Ummmm wut?
 
To be fair, as far as the English broadsheets are concerned he's been getting a lot of praise recently. It seems to have taken a run of games for England to get noticed though.

The real mystery for me has been the United fans who took so long to appreciate him. Some still don't. When was the last time you heard a young lad talking about leading the line for Manchester United and England in a mancunian accent? He should be a frigging hero for United fans, not the source of so much begrudgery.

Aye, even a few City fan friends of mine rate him quite highly. For me though he needs a bit more end product, that or he needs to become more active in general play. I am not complaining because they guy never gives the ball away but I feel that he needs to get better. Of course with his age and his current rate of development that seems more likely than not.

It reminds me of a comment made about Chelsea looking for a manager - James Ducker i think it was, said that if Di Matteo had won the CL with another team he d be top on Chelsea's list for the post of manager. (Eventually they gave him the job but it seems that initially Abramovic was not so convinced about RDM)

The same can be applied to a section of Mu fans - if Welbeck played for another team - I m sure he d high in muppet lists over here

Nice comparrison.

I think that it is part of the human condition that we often tend to feel that the grass is greener on the other side of town.
 
Waking up this morning as a national saviour and the memory of a divine and audacious piece of footballing skill should be an defining and iconic moment in Danny Welbeck's developing career.

He should take so much confidence from scoring England's winning goal and it should make him believe that an international reputation is not beyond him and all for his taking.

He's been brought the right way under the very watchful eyes of McClair, OGS and SAF and so is as drilled in the values of Manchester United as Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes or Gary Neville. So he won't allow the success and fame get to his head. Its great he has Gary Neville and Rooney with him in the camp whom he can completely trust to provide him council which is only in his and our best interests.

Whatever else he can achieve this tournament (I still think he will make more impact), its wonderful for us to get an improved, more confident version of Danny Welback back at our club next year. He could really be a special one.

Congrats Danny Boy. Enjoy the rays of sun on your back for the next days.
 
I also don't think the newspapers see him as a headline maker. For a start he's clearly a sensible lad off the pitch, and his interviews are pretty much the norm. So when he scores the winning goal like last night, I'd bet they'd find something else to highlight. I haven't seen the papers today but I'd be surprised if the back pages were plastered with 'Danny Boy' or something. It will probably be about Walcott's impact.

Rightly so. He changed the game and was MoM.
 
The real mystery for me has been the United fans who took so long to appreciate him. Some still don't. When was the last time you heard a young lad talking about leading the line for Manchester United and England in a mancunian accent? He should be a frigging hero for United fans, not the source of so much begrudgery.

This is why I tend to completely lose it on here when I see people properly write him off. What's the fecking point if you can't get excited about, categorically, the best thing about being a fan of a football club?
 
To be fair, as far as the English broadsheets are concerned he's been getting a lot of praise recently. It seems to have taken a run of games for England to get noticed though.

The real mystery for me has been the United fans who took so long to appreciate him. Some still don't. When was the last time you heard a young lad talking about leading the line for Manchester United and England in a mancunian accent? He should be a frigging hero for United fans, not the source of so much begrudgery.

I agree, he is the most exciting talent coming in for years, and with a little experience and self confidence he wont 'overthink' his chances and will become much more proficient. His goal yesterday showed that he has absolutely fantastic instinct in front of the goal,
 
It reminds me of a comment made about Chelsea looking for a manager - James Ducker i think it was, said that if Di Matteo had won the CL with another team he d be top on Chelsea's list for the post of manager. (Eventually they gave him the job but it seems that initially Abramovic was not so convinced about RDM)

The same can be applied to a section of Mu fans - if Welbeck played for another team - I m sure he d high in muppet lists over here

It's sad to say this is very true.
 
Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it’s a better cow than the one you’ve got in the field. It’s a fact, right, and it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow and it’s not as good as your own cow.
 
Last first team regular striker united produced was hughes wasn't it?
That in itself shows how special Welbeck is.
And he's doing it in an era when it's even harder for British academy products to make the f/t breakthrough at united's level.
There are few players I've wanted to be a success more than Welbeck.
Good to see him doing his thing and getting props beyond the United circle.
 
Are people really discussing whether he meant it? He's been trying (and frequently pulling off) exceptional stuff like that all his life, certainly since he broke into the academy side at 15. I'm sure we'll see him express himself more and more as he gains experience.
 
I've gotta be honest when I first saw it I thought he'd fluked it. After seeing it a few times since though I'm in no doubt he meant it.
 
Welbeck is a real talent and has proved it on many occassions. People on the Caf have a tendency to ridiculously overhype our academy prospects but this guy is the real deal.
 
Welbeck's name is mentioned once in the BBC sport's football homepage and that's in a tweet from McNulty. Rooney despite not playing is making the headlines.
 
I have a vague recollection of Welbeck doing something similar for us but can find no evidence of it. It's frustrating me.
 
Welbeck's name is mentioned once in the BBC sport's football homepage and that's in a tweet from McNulty. Rooney despite not playing is making the headlines.

That touch is ridiculous.To even attempt it is outrageous

Its been overlooked how great a finish it was. All the talk is of the impact of Walcott(which was impressive to be fair). If Rooney,Torres,Messi etc done that it would be the main story.
 
Its been overlooked how great a finish it was. All the talk is of the impact of Walcott(which was impressive to be fair). If Rooney,Torres,Messi etc done that it would be the main story.

Maybe that's a good thing in the long run, no matter how frustrating it is. Danny would probably do well to keep on doing what he's doing and improving his reputation bit by bit rather than exploding on the scene.
 
I've gotta be honest when I first saw it I thought he'd fluked it. After seeing it a few times since though I'm in no doubt he meant it.

I'm the same. The way he looks at the corner right at the corner after flicking it shows that. Wonderful finish.
 
Think your thinking of nanis goal against bayern in the CL

No it's not that goal I'm thinking of. To be honest, I'm not even sure if it was a goal - I just have a very vague recollection of seeing Welbeck do that before. I'm probably just going mad.
 
No it's not that goal I'm thinking of. To be honest, I'm not even sure if it was a goal - I just have a very vague recollection of seeing Welbeck do that before. I'm probably just going mad.
I really remember a goal like this from him too, but I can't think who it was against either..
 
I think it was either some friendly or CC/Fa Cup game against Championship side. Can remember that as well.
 
I don't know if I have seen Welbeck pull off something identical before but it's abit of skill which is typical of his game really. If you look at any compilation of his goal for the reserves and the first team, there are plenty of similar examples. What makes Danny such an exciting prospect for me is the range of difficult things he pulls up with natural ease such as the lifted finishes, chips, deft flicks and back heels. It's not just in front of goal, it's a natural part of his build up and link up play as well.

All Welbeck needs to add to his game for me is finishing off the more straightforward chances and I am sure that will come with experience. There was talk mid season when he went on that barren run of him lacking composure but I don't see that at all. You need composure to score the type of goals he has scored against Belgium and Sweden.

He's the most rounded attacking player we have produced for a very long time and he's only going to get better.
 
It's like the skill he used to control the ball which led to him trying to take on their whole defence due to no support. It was a similar movement to how he took the ball and shows it was no fluke.
 
No it's not that goal I'm thinking of. To be honest, I'm not even sure if it was a goal - I just have a very vague recollection of seeing Welbeck do that before. I'm probably just going mad.

The Everton game, maybe? I know what you mean though if not...I'm sure I've seen Welbeck do this before.
 
It's weird that people question his intent. He does it in receiving and giving a pass nearly every bloody match, especially to Cleverley.

Shows some bottle in a top tournament, good on him :)
 
He does spectacular things quite often. Even his debut goal was a beauty.

There was a ridiculous first touch at 2:00 into this video;



To take the ball in his stride so effortlessly and quickly, despite it being played almost behind him, was brilliant.
 
Danny loves to play football, it's obvious from the joy on his face when he does it. Give me a player who loves to play over someone who doesn't every game, but especially when the pressure is on, they'll be too busy enjoying themselves to get very nervous.

Aside from Giggs and Scholes our team is very young, Rafael, Jones, Smalling and Evans will be defenders for United for many years to come, injuries permitting. Welbeck, Nani, Cleverley and Anderson have the potential to do the same thing, but I think Welbeck is the most likely to still be with the team in 7 years and playing at the top level.
 
Right, having faced off against various idiots on here claiming that Welbeck isn't good enough, despite being just 21 years of age and therefore still ridiculously young for a striker, and often employing comparisons to defend him, I've decided to just unload all the comparisons at once. I quickly made a list of all the big strikers at euro 2012, and David Villa, to show what they were up to during the season they turned 21. Also noted the age at which they were first capped for their national team, and I'd like to draw attention to just how many of this lot are either one-time or perpetual favourites of the transfer muppets:

Llorente: 4 goals in 25 appearances for Athletic Bilbao in La Liga, first cap at 23
Torres: 13 goals in 40 appearances for Atletico Madrid in La Liga, first cap at 19
Villa: 20 goals in 48 for Gijon in Segunda Liga, first cap at 23
Klose: 0 goals in 0 appearances for Kaiserslauten in the Bundesliga, first cap at 22
Gomez: 8 goals in 38 appearances for Stuttgart in the Bundesliga, first cap at 21
V. Persie: 10 goals in 41 appearances for Arsenal in the Premier League, first cap at 21
Huntelaar: 19 goals in 39 appearances for Heerenveen in the Eredivisie, first cap at 23
Di Natale: 12 goals in 25 appearances for Viareggio in Serie C, first cap at 25
Balotelli: 17 goals in 32 appearances for Manchester City in the Premier League, first cap at 19
Lewandowski: 21 goals in 34 appearances for Lech Poznan in the Ekstraklasa, first cap at 20
Ibrahimovic: 21 in 42 for Ajax in the Eredivisie, first cap at 19
Benzema: 23 in 47 for Lyon in Ligue 1, first cap at 19
Rooney: 23 in 55 for Manchester United in the Premier League, first cap at 17


Llorente is my favourite example, because it seems like every muppet and his dog is desperate for us to sign him to replace a Mancunian lad who's played for this club since he was eight years old. I'll be willing to bet a substantial amount of money that Welbeck will go on to be a better player, and have very little doubt that he has every chance of matching the reputation and career of any of the older players on the above list, with the exception of Wayne Rooney, who is a complete freak of nature.
 
Love having a home grown local lad leading the line, lets hope he follows after gary and scholsey and stays a one club man.
 
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