Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Sturridge is a flash bastard, not a great footballer. Did you watch the u21s over the summer? Who looked the better player? Sturridge was dribbling and looking great because he was trying to do it all on his own, but who was actually having an impact on games linking up play and scoring goals? Welbeck.

If you like selfish pricks who occasionally have moments of magic, you'll like Sturridge. Welbeck is the better player.

Yeah, Sturridge is greedy, but that's something he can work on as time progresses. He'll mature as a footballer and learn from other players. I remember when Rooney was younger there were times when he was rash on the ball and was greedy. He learned from that though.
 
Yeah, Sturridge is greedy, but that's something he can work on as time progresses. He'll mature as a footballer and learn from other players. I remember when Rooney was younger there were times when he was rash on the ball and was greedy. He learned from that though.

so you are arguing that Sturridge is a better player than Welbeck because he could in the future not be as selfish?

Rooney wasn't afraid to do it on his own but he played with his head up and tried to bring other players into play if they were in better positions and he saw them...

Comparing Rooney to Sturridge is like comparing Pele to Milan Baros
 
so you are arguing that Sturridge is a better player than Welbeck because he could in the future not be as selfish?

Rooney wasn't afraid to do it on his own but he played with his head up and tried to bring other players into play if they were in better positions and he saw them...

Comparing Rooney to Sturridge is like comparing Pele to Milan Baros

No, what I'm saying is that Sturridge is the better natural player than Welbeck. Welbeck has some attributes in his favour such as team ethic and workrate, however Sturridge is clearly the better player on ability alone in my opinion.

You're taking my comment way out of context. I'm not comparing Rooney to Sturridge; I'm comparing an aspect of their play.
 
so you are arguing that Sturridge is a better player than Welbeck because he could in the future not be as selfish?

Rooney wasn't afraid to do it on his own but he played with his head up and tried to bring other players into play if they were in better positions and he saw them...

Comparing Rooney to Sturridge is like comparing Pele to Milan Baros

Sturridge, the black Milan Baros.

Anyway, don't care about Sturridge, I just feckin love Danny!
 
No, what I'm saying is that Sturridge is the better natural player than Welbeck. Welbeck has some attributes in his favour such as team ethic and workrate, however Sturridge is clearly the better player on ability alone in my opinion.

Patrick Kluivert was a better 'natural player' than Ruud Van Nistelrooy, I'm sure glad Kluivert rejected us and we ended up with Ruud further down the line...

Bojan Krkic was one of the most naturally talented 15/16 year old I have seen (probably only second to Messi and not that far off him) and where is he now?

Theres more to football than just being able to dribble, thats why Welbeck should be starting for England and Sturridge is on the bench for Chelsea
 
No, what I'm saying is that Sturridge is the better natural player than Welbeck. Welbeck has some attributes in his favour such as team ethic and workrate, however Sturridge is clearly the better player on ability alone in my opinion.

You're taking my comment way out of context. I'm not comparing Rooney to Sturridge; I'm comparing an aspect of their play.

He's not more talented though. The only thing Sturridge has over Welbeck is that he's got much quicker feet and is capable of doing a skill that'll put you on your arse. Welbeck is much more of a natural footballer, he picks up space better, is more intelligent with the ball at most importantly links up with teammates brilliantly. His vision and one touch play is what sets him apart from most young strikers IMO.

Sturridge is good, he's a selfish goalscorer with quick feet. Welbeck is a complete striker who needs to improve his finishing. I know what one I would rather have.
 
Patrick Kluivert was a better 'natural player' than Ruud Van Nistelrooy, I'm sure glad Kluivert rejected us and we ended up with Ruud further down the line...

Bojan Krkic was one of the most naturally talented 15/16 year old I have seen (probably only second to Messi and not that far off him) and where is he now?

Theres more to football than just being able to dribble, thats why Welbeck should be starting for England and Sturridge is on the bench for Chelsea

I think you're massively underestimating Sturridge's ability here. He's a lot more than a dribbler. He's a better finisher than Welbeck as well.

Still, I'm not going to drag this topic any further away from what it would be, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
And also why he should be seen as a better striking option than Sturridge. His linkup play is ahead of many players of a similar level and age group when it comes to strikers. That and his work rate are why Rooney suggested him for united's player of the season. I think thats over the top, but I think it says something about how much Rooney appreciates having a player doing that for him
I don't see why he keeps being compared to Sturridge. The Chelsea lad might possess similar ball skills but that is were the similarities end. Welbeck is more of a Yorke/Kanu type and Sturridge more of a Van Nistelrooy/Andy Cole type. Sturridge will always be the more naturally selfish forward.
 
I was largely following the game on the bbc text commentary and he was getting dogs abuse from both United and ABU fans. Glad he proved some people wrong.
 
Welbeck was fantastic today. Defenders just can't deal with him at times. When he gets a bit older and more experienced, his going to be the real deal.

I still laugh about the time I argued with Lance Uppercut that Welbeck would move ahead of Hernandez and Berbatov by the end of this season. It only took him a game or two after that :lol: It did earn me a place on Lance's ignore list though.
 
Why the feck is anyone talking about Daniel Sturridge after the performance Danny put in today?

Someone decided that he was behind Sturridge in the selection for Euro. A fair point in the end..

The Chelsea supporters I know don't like him that much. Too selfish and doesn't offer much in terms of team play and work rate.

I have had a mate of mine moaning that the reason Chelsea aren't scoring more goals when Sturridge is playing is because he's too greedy. It is the exact opposite of Welbeck. He's not greedy enough.

I think Sturridge plays more like a wing forward a la free role style Ronaldo. He's quite devastating off his left on the right but still is just far to greed. For me Welbeck is more of an all-round goal threat and better player with more potential.
 
I think you're massively underestimating Sturridge's ability here. He's a lot more than a dribbler. He's a better finisher than Welbeck as well.

Still, I'm not going to drag this topic any further away from what it would be, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Sturridge is a finisher only atm. He hasn't Danny's workrate or vision, he doesn't link play half as well, nor is he a threat aerially. Sturridge has been very good at creating chances for himself cutting in from the right, but other than that he offers relatively little, which is why he isn't getting the nod atm.

At least when Welbeck doesn't score he still contributes in many other ways for the team. Sturridge is very much goals or nothing in comparison. If Welbeck goes to the Euro's and Sturridge doesn't, it will be because of Danny's all round attitude and willingness to be more than a goalscorer. It takes a lot of maturity for a young player to take such responsibility for the effectiveness of the team. Sturridge may still have time to learn, but until he does so, he is lagging quite a way behind Welbeck at this stage of their careers imo.
 
If Sturridge doesn't go to the Euro's it will be a crime. For he is the perfect alternative to striker like Rooney and Welbeck. I thought he and Welbeck were an excellent two some at the under 21 championships.

Me too, but without games, a lot will depend on whether or not Pearce is still in charge for the tournament. If he is he may give him the nod based on his form with Welbeck for the under21's. Anyone other manager will probably look at his Chelsea form in the last couple of months and leave him here.

Tbh though there is not really a lot of inspiring options up front. Rooney, Welbeck, Defoe, Crouch, Zamora, Grant Holt, Andy Carroll, Bent not fit enough. Grant Holt is probably the most in form and consistent of those challenging for a back up spot. So Sturridge could well go simply because Pearce knows he and Welbeck can play effectively together.

With Rooney missing for the first 2 games, we will need to find some sort of workable pairing. Those 2 are potentially as good as any other combination from that selection i suppose. :nervous:
 
He was great today, this was probably best performance from United striker in last few months, or more. Actually, I can't remember better performance from our strikers this year tbh. Keep up the good work Danny.

I can't believe people are rating Sturridge higher than Welbeck. Sturridge can't get game in last few weeks for crap team like chelsea because they have great players in torres and kalou in his position, and Welbeck is first choice in champions team.
 
The goal was very special and the link up for Rooneys was fantastic. His unpredictable style must make it difficult for opponents, but also exciting to watch as you never know what will happen
 
Amazing what a goal can do for a striker's confidence. Great performance in an otherwise miserable day, I'm so glad Fergie stuck by him this past month as the temptation to either recall Berba or play the more proven Hernandez into form must have been great, given the pressure of a title run-in. I'm sure that Welbeck's going to be a star for us for many years to come, there will no doubt be many more periods where he suffers a dip in form but the potential reward with him in the team is so great. The attack just clicks and looks capable of playing the type of relentless, speedy interplay we've been spoilt with by past Fergie teams.
 
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He was absolutely class in that second half. He's always been giving us glimpses of the type of striker we believe he will develop into. But against Everton he put all the pieces together. Great speed, ball control, movement and link up play with deadly finishing. That partnership with Rooney looked extremely effective out there and surely they will only get better with time.
 
I love Welbeck. He will be banging 25 goals a season for us for the next ten years! :D

He'll definately be an integral part of the future United imo

His understanding and play with Nani and Rooney is brilliant. Great one-touch-quick football!
 
Our 4th goal yesterday, the understanding between Rooney and Welbeck was something to behold.

It was really amazing. Reminded me of Yorke & Cole.
It's astonishing how easy it is to dismantle a defence when pulling something like that off.
 
Was a fantastic goal, really was. Agree about it being annoying with the game ending in a draw. It'll be forgotten now.
 
It was really amazing. Reminded me of Yorke & Cole.
It's astonishing how easy it is to dismantle a defence when pulling something like that off.


Love Cole's celebration there.
 
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