I think Welbeck is one of the main reasons Fergie thinks we don't need Berbatov anymore. They share similar attributes, good control and technique. However Welbeck has that added intensity to his game which obviously Fergie is looking for to move us forward.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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I'd agree with this. People on here big players up so quickly it makes a sane persons' head spin. I've heard comments about him being a World Class player within 2-3 seasons or being one of the Premier Leagues top strikers for years to come and I honestly can't see that he has done enough to justify it (although I accept it is nice to go overboard when talking about a young, local lad).
He has had a progressive season, whereby the best attribute I have seen is his great work ethic, which will take him so far, but in terms of his all round game he has a mile to go before he can be classed as a top striker.
His career could go one of two ways, which is in no way decided at present and is very much in the balance. He could improve gradually and become a squad player for years to come; or he could have that one standout/breakthrough season where he makes the step up to a top player.
I feel he is in a similar position to Sturridge at Chelsea in that the hype, which has stemmed from flashes of a great player has often outweighed the overall productivity/effectiveness.
no - just Glenn Hoddle, his clairvoyant and any other feckin idiot stupid enough to believe him. The same idiot who told Beckham, nearing his peak, to piss off and leave taking free kicks to the experts.
The other way to look at is that this is a striker who, aged 20/21, has proved good enough that Sir Alex Ferguson has made him first choice for Manchester United, ahead of the likes of Berbatov and Hernandez.
So if we work on the normally reliable rule of thumb that Fergie knows more about football than any of us, this would imply he's something pretty special.
Mind you, his finishing has been a bit gash recently, that is true.
Young player in 'dip in form' shock.
if he has a great pre season he will be great next season, hes good but there is just a few creases which isnt a surprise considering his age. he will score 15-21 next season.
That's weirdly specific without being specific.
Of course Fergie knows best. However there is a bit of a difference between Fergie playing him ahead of Hernandez and him being a World Class in a short period of time.
Is he currently pretty good? Yes. Does he have potential to be very good? Yes. Those are the only definitive things that we know. I (like Fergie and almost everyone else) have seen more talented players fail and worse players become brilliant so it is still very much in the balance.
So, still young n lernin' or shit and past it?
Fair enough - I'd argue that, while he indeed can't be called world class yet, you have to be more like very good than pretty good in order to be first choice for United.
Not done enough to justify it? He's been a regular choice at the best club in the league! At 21! That is a fantastic achievement, and from there surely its not such a leap to suggest that in a few years he will be one of the best strikers around, especially when this is put in the context of the fact that he clearly has so much he can improve upon*. How many strikers who have started for top clubs at his age have been anything other than fantastic? I can't remember one.
* This is meant to be encouraging, players like Owen or Fowler when they were breaking through had clearly come close to perfecting their particular method of play, and so they already seemed from a young age close to their top level. Welbeck can still use his link up qualities more intelligently, improve his finishing, fill out and become more of a physical presence, his top level is limitless.
It's annoying how some people can't see that players progress in a non uniform manner. Look at Owen, World beater at 18 but career fizzled out in late 20s. Same with Fowler who looked class at a young age. On the contrary someone like Drogba was an unknown quantity until about 26 and has since been one of the Premier League star players. It also took longer for someone like Makalele or Fletcher to be appreciated as they should.
What makes a great manager is one that is able to identify talent and see how to improve them, rather than discarding every 20 year old who is not "world class" straight away. Danny has the tools to become a great player AND a great work ethic to improve and play for the team. On top of this he is a local lad and his willingness to contribute is brilliant.
The same people who think he won't make it probably thought we should sell Fletcher, O Shea and Evans. Experience can't be bought but it can make a player.
What makes a great manager is one that is able to identify talent and see how to improve them, rather than discarding every 20 year old who is not "world class" straight away. Danny has the tools to become a great player AND a great work ethic to improve and play for the team. On top of this he is a local lad and his willingness to contribute is brilliant.
The same people who think he won't make it probably thought we should sell Fletcher, O Shea and Evans. Experience can't be bought but it can make a player.
Badly needed that goal. Like I said last week, you must be doing sometching right when you're in position to waste all those chances. He could have already had a hat-trick today. Hopefully that goal will be the moment where ifs and buts turn into goals.
His all round game was far better today anyway. The goal is the icing on the cake though
Great to see him back among the goals. Sharp instincts to follow up that play even when it looked sure to be intercepted by the Villa defense.
Great post, spot on.
He has been out of form recently but good to see him looking a bit better today. Still not 100% but now that he has got his goal and the team are playing well hopefully he will really turn it on and put in a great 2nd half.
Love it when Welbeck is on form, he just needs to be a bit more incisive in his shooting. He links up so well with all the players around him, whoever it may be.
He is so determined today, almost furious.
Good lad, wants to improve and with that kind of attitude, he may score more.
Good lad, wants to improve and with that kind of attitude, he may score more.
Very good game from him today, none of the chances before the goal were easy and his all round game was solid, chuffed for him bagging the goal, hopefully the start of a run.
Much better in the second half and more importantly than anything else, he scored a goal.It'll do his confidence a world of good.
I just long to see him take some powerful shots in or around the penalty box
I just long to see him take some powerful shots in or around the penalty box
He needs to be starting for us every game.
Yeah, even with his dodgy finishing he gives us so much more than Hernandez. And his finishing will improve.
Much improved performance from young Danny today, good to see. Hope he can keep this form up, we have a real talent on our hands here, we just need to be a bit patient with him and allow him room to grow.
The signs look good though.
The signs look good though.
Time and patience is all that it takes till he becomes a really great striker. He has all attributes that are needed, mentally and physically.
Better than Rooney today. His main problem seems to be his unwillingness to shoot with his left foot.
Pleased as feck for the lad finding the net today. He's been a bit off with his finishing recently, but some of the criticism he's been getting on here has been ott.
He had some great attempts, coulda had a hat trick if Given didn't pull off a couple of great saves. Really pleased for him. A goal a game now please Danny 
Great movement today.
Berbaesque.
He was great yesterday,I'm so glad he scored a goal, eventough he should have scored couple more, but he is so unlucky. Okay, sometimes he does look clumsy in front of goal, but I think yesterday he did good in every chance, but their defenders made two or three excellent blocks, and Given made one or two good saves too.
Nice to see him nominated for YPOTY. I don't see him having a chance of winning it, but it's nice for him to be nominated nevertheless.
Agreed - this was one game where it wasn't down to poor finishing or clumsiness in the box that stopped him from scoring a few times. Great blocks/saves but, am glad he did get the goal.
Should stick with him on Sunday.
So pleased with his progress. He's significantly improved from this time last year, and has chipped in with a moderate goal return too.
Next steps are definitely getting him confident enough to have a pop and not feel the need to always pass to a teammate when in a could position. A summer of shooting practice wouldn't be remiss!
Next steps are definitely getting him confident enough to have a pop and not feel the need to always pass to a teammate when in a could position. A summer of shooting practice wouldn't be remiss!
Only trouble with starting youngsters every game is that they usually have inconsistent form. At a club like ours the scrutiny is intense, we have seen it already, hailed as a potential England star at the euro's by the media at first, and then after a couple of inevitable poor performances, he is suddenly not as good as everyone first thought.
SAF knows how to handle young players, i think he is doing the right thing with Welbeck, giving him a run of games, then a rest so he doesn't rest on his laurels, and then back in for another run. I think Welbeck is doing as well as can be expected at this stage, just needs more time to learn his role and get used to the expectations placed upon him, and he will hopefully be a top player here for years to come!
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Wow i must have missed that yesterday! Bergkamp and Berbatov would both have been proud of that one! Great athleticism and touch required to kill that at that height! Impressive!
Thing thing with him is as soon as he does something ridiculously good, like that first touch, he follows it up with something abysmal. He will of course get better at decision making the more experience he gets
I think it's more the case that his first touch is unpredictable, as opposed to poor. Overall, I think it's a weak spot of his game, but then he'll go and do something like that to show you that he does have it in him.
We just need to take a look at Evans progress to see how youngsters can progress very quickly. I doubt there would have been too many who would have predicted Evans could ever have been as good as he has been this season after watching him last year.
It will be no different with Welbeck i think. Let's face it event he more experienced strikers like Rooney and Hernandez still have inconsistent spells, so we shouldn't be too surprised to see such patchy form from Welbeck at this point. I think he has done very well so far and will only get better.
It will be no different with Welbeck i think. Let's face it event he more experienced strikers like Rooney and Hernandez still have inconsistent spells, so we shouldn't be too surprised to see such patchy form from Welbeck at this point. I think he has done very well so far and will only get better.
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