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Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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Berbatov's old trafford farewell on sunday then.
class!
I edited last post, so bump.
Love it!
I'd love nothing more than for Danny Welbeck to have the tournament of his fecking life this Summer, hope it could be the making of him.
He'll play brilliant and then we'll bring Rooney back, shoehorn Welbeck in down the wing and it will all go to pot.
Has Welbeck ever been asked to play on the wing for England?
Woy doesn't mind playing two strikers. If Welbeck does well in Rooney's absence I reckon the two of them will get to continue the partnership they formed at United.
Could be the making of England.
Woy doesn't mind playing two strikers. If Welbeck does well in Rooney's absence I reckon the two of them will get to continue the partnership they formed at United.
Could be the making of England.
The really sad thing is, Andy fecking Carroll will probably be picked ahead of him, based on his recent 'form'.
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/7765377/Welbeck-Says-Thanks-To-Mentor-Rooney
Going through the article it shows the kind of culture which has been developed at the club thanks to Fergie. Welbeck comes across as genuine and the spirit which Ferdinand shows has definitely developed staying here for a few years.
I think Danny will do really well here at United, not so sure about England (though I hope he does really well).
Heh. Dunno why but that made me chuckle.
me too.
Keeping it professional on the pitch, classy Wayne, who'd have thought it
I love Welbeck. He has real talent and a great attitude. He will be a United player for a long, long itime IMO.
Very classy finish today.
So happy for him. Love watching Welbeck grow and mature. He's going to be a top player.
Keane rates him highly.
Well, it was a chip. Other than that it was nothing like.
He's a Rolls Royce to Carroll's Volvo.
Great finish that, and he should be starting the first game for England in the euros. What the hell has Carroll actually done to be in the squad at all, other than carry that huge transfer fee? Bloody hell, are itv actually trying to make out that he should be starting? How standards have dropped.
He'd need to fecking start against France ahead of Carroll.
As he should, I'm sure you've seen that video of Keane teaching a very young Danny how to shield the ball.
The thought of Andy fecking Carroll starting ahead of Welbeck in the Euro's makes me feel physically sick. There's just no comparison at all, Carroll's a big lump of shit who can head the ball, Welbeck is one of the few technially brilliant players England have. If these two were any other nationality, bar English, Welbeck would be one of the first names on the team sheet....Carroll wouldnt even be in the squad.
Sums up the backwards fecking thinking of the English game that Carroll is considered anywhere near good enough.
Sums up the backwards fecking thinking of the English game that Carroll is considered anywhere near good enough.
That could work against the French central defensive pairing though....
Never seen him finish like that with his left foot before. Shows a lot of confidence which is great to see.
Welbeck is full of confidence, he'd have to be to wear that haircut. He plays with a smile on his face and is full of creativity, I think he'll have a long, glorious career with United.
Not really, no. That's just you getting a bit hysterical, and that just sums up the thinking in the English game (towards the English team) more than anything. Everything's hysterical. Negredo's been picked ahead of Soldado for similar reasons, for example. England aren't the only player who see the use of having someone like Carroll; France, Brazil, Holland, Germany, Italy and plenty of others over the years have used one to good success. Welbeck's a young lad still finding his way, and one that scored just 3 goals in his last 17 games...he certainly wouldn't be one of the first names on the team sheet, because the other nationalities don't get carried away at the sight of a technically competent player. Welbeck's going to go far and he is technically very good, but there are valid reasons for not having some worries about him being the sole forward for such a big tournament.
I want names Brwned. Names of players on the same/similar level as Carroll, so don't give me Bierhoff or Vieri.
I remember the worst German team in history used Jancker.
Welbeck should play ahead of Carroll, no question. And the reason? Because Carroll is a poor footballer.
The problem is, everything you says falls down when you consider the problem isnt a 'big man' type player getting in ahead of Welbeck, its that the player in question is Andy Carroll. who is a very poor footballer. You say, against Welbeck that he's a young player still finding his way, well yes, but so is Carroll. If we talking about a big lump of a player who was experienced and proven to work at the top level, then it would be a compleltely different story. But we're not, we're talking about Andy Carroll.
You just basically shot down every part of his argument there, bang on.
Gignac is a good example of a similar player like Carroll.An overrated,overpriced player who to the contrary of Carroll had one good season complete in France.
How did that work out?
We're not just talking about Danny Welbeck and Andy Carroll though, we're also talking about the England team in which they will be playing in. Carroll has mainly been considered a flop for his price tag, he wasn't a flop when he was at Newcastle, his poor form is clearly from being in a new team and nothing else, there is no need to be sensationalist about him.
If 'hoofball' is a primary or secondary tactic that a team needs to use, then Carroll would adhere to that.
If 'hoofball' is a primary or secondary tactic that a team needs to use, then Carroll would adhere to that.
He wasn't poor for Newcastle is your argument?
He had one good season in the Championship and 3 good months in the Premier League, since then he's been more often than not, poor.
Michael Ricketts did exactly the same thing, he also made the England team. If we're gonna base what constitutes a good player on his first 3 months in the Prem, well Amir Zaki would be one of the greatest strikers to ever ply his trade here.
Wouldn't you rather have someone like Crouch, who at least has a decent goal-scoring record at international level, as well as having had a better season than Carroll, if you wanted that target man option?
Yes.
He wasn't poor for Newcastle is your argument?
He had one good season in the Championship and 3 good months in the Premier League, since then he's been more often than not, poor.
Michael Ricketts did exactly the same thing, he also made the England team.
No. My argument is there is a case for him to play because of the style of England. My point is sensationalist BS doesn't add anything to your opinion.
excellent finish. definitely a much better option than carroll.
So why all the rest of the nonsense about "his poor form is clearly from being in a new team and nothing else"
I get your point about using a big man in the England set-up, but I think Crouch is better big man if we wanted to go for that option, Holt too. I also think that Welbeck proved today why he's a better option, because England will defend, and his pace on counter attacks etc. will get him into positions Carroll will never get into. I can't see us raining crosses into opposition areas, we won't have the possession for it.
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