Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Every part of his game is pretty good but his finishing has been woeful at times this season. Missing way way too many chances.
 
Our worst player today. Probably won't get any criticism for it though. Never does.

He got loads of criticism in the matchday thread and the posts above so I guess you're wrong again.

Had another bad game, he is completely off form at the moment.

It doesn't help that Hernandez is now off form as well.
 
Our worst player today. Probably won't get any criticism for it though. Never does.

Why should he, he's young. Flecther, Evans, Carrick all got premature criticism and it was absolutely ridiculous. Welbeck just needs to brush up on his finishing and work on his balance a bit, doesn't look fully grown into his body.
 
It will be interesting to see if Hernandez plays in the next match or will Wellbeck retain his position.
 
Hernandez will start the next game. He didnt start today because he was so poor against Blackburn himself
 
Berbatov, although he is leaving still must be wondering why he cannot get into the team ahead of those 2...
 
It looks like SAF was getting really frustrated with him, and also that earful he gave him in the Blackburn match when he gave the ball away.
 
Way too erratic when he gets into good positions. I was hoping the goal against Wolves would give him confidence and he'd start scoring again but he's continued to struggle in front of goal.

Still convinced he'll be a top player for us but this is definitely something he'll have to work on (and I'm sure he will)
 
Usually, the prodigal young striking talents come through with instinctive clinical finishing but a naive all round game, which then comes with experience. The thing about Sturridge and Wellbeck is, they're completely the opposite.
 
He was decent in general play but his finishing is terrible. He's young though so i have no doubt he will improve that.
 
I always got this impression of him as a really good finisher when I watched him when he was 17. Seems quite wasteful recently.
 
Confidence low in front of goal.. He has the ability. Not worried.. he will turn it around...
Good thing is it isnt costing us points.
 
Why should he, he's young. Flecther, Evans, Carrick all got premature criticism and it was absolutely ridiculous. Welbeck just needs to brush up on his finishing and work on his balance a bit, doesn't look fully grown into his body.

A young player shouldn't be immune to criticism. You can't just sit there and say, he was poor today, but he's young so it doesn't matter at all.

Condemning a player and saying they're not good enough after a poor performance is wrong, but criticising them is not.
 
He has hit a bad patch, no doubt about it. But it is good that he is still getting his chances. It will happen for him again soon.
 
A young player shouldn't be immune to criticism. You can't just sit there and say, he was poor today, but he's young so it doesn't matter at all.

Condemning a player and saying they're not good enough after a poor performance is wrong, but criticising them is not.

A lot of fans don't do constructive criticism though, once they see something they'll stick with that view for a long time. Even then I don't see what's new about Welbeck that we learnt today, his finishing needs work but it's clear his confidence isn't the highest right now and even when not scoring he brings a lot in link-up play, movement and work-rate. We also know he's still to grow into his body.
 
Always get nervous in the final third and almost falls down while shooting almost every time.

Weird.
 
Not sure if one or two in here are meaning to come across as if you are unhappy that Welbeck isn't getting enough criticism but if you are you need to get your heads sorted.

It almost goes without saying that his form isn't the best at the moment, the point is that he has talent so its worth putting up with a few wasteful games so that he has a better chance to reach his potential.
 
A lot of fans don't do constructive criticism though, once they see something they'll stick with that view for a long time. Even then I don't see what's new about Welbeck that we learnt today, his finishing needs work but it's clear his confidence isn't the highest right now and even when not scoring he brings a lot in link-up play, movement and work-rate. We also know he's still to grow into his body.

Fair enough. It's just with your original response, you made it look like you felt he should be immune to any sort of criticism because he's young, which I don't agree with.
 
The "he's young, he'll get better at finishing" thing is what worries me. Owen, or Shearer, or Cole, or Fowler or any of the young English striking talents (or any young striking talents for that matter) didn't come through a bit shit in front of goal but with a good all round game. They all came through all guns blazing and then got better at every thing else.

That's not to say he won't improve, it's just a random observation.
 
The "he's young, he'll get better at finishing" thing is what worries me. Owen, or Shearer, or Cole, or Fowler or any of the young English striking talents (or any young striking talents for that matter) didn't come through a bit shit in front of goal but with a good all round game. They all came through all guns blazing and then got better at every thing else.

That's not to say he won't improve, it's just a random observation.

He always seemed like a pretty good finisher when he came through the ranks though so I think some of it is down to confidence now. Technically he's very good so to me any issue is mental.
 
The "he's young, he'll get better at finishing" thing is what worries me. Owen, or Shearer, or Cole, or Fowler or any of the young English striking talents (or any young striking talents for that matter) didn't come through a bit shit in front of goal but with a good all round game. They all came through all guns blazing and then got better at every thing else.

That's not to say he won't improve, it's just a random observation.

You make a good point, actually. It makes me wonder if he'll maybe become a more creative player who plays in behind the main striker, kind of like Rooney does. He still has to develop his all-round game and improve a lot before he can do it, however it may be a good move for him to eventually make if his finishing doesn't improve a lot.
 
On the contrary, he's doing quite well and most things right except for finishing his chances off.

When you're a striker though, that's the most important thing. If you're not finishing, then that's always going to be the thing that other people look at.

I wouldn't particularly agree with you though. I don't see what else he has been doing that's been overly impressive. He works hard, yes, but that only takes you so far.
 
When you're a striker though, that's the most important thing. If you're not finishing, then that's always going to be the thing that other people look at.

I wouldn't particularly agree with you though. I don't see what else he has been doing that's been overly impressive. He works hard, yes, but that only takes you so far.

His link-up play and movement is always decent at his worst.
 
The "he's young, he'll get better at finishing" thing is what worries me. Owen, or Shearer, or Cole, or Fowler or any of the young English striking talents (or any young striking talents for that matter) didn't come through a bit shit in front of goal but with a good all round game. They all came through all guns blazing and then got better at every thing else.

That's not to say he won't improve, it's just a random observation.

Rooney was pretty inconsistent at finishing when younger, as was ronaldo at the early stages. Henry wasn't very clinical until his second season at arsenal either. He will get better no doubt.
 
True, but it's his touch that worries me to be honest. It's very unpredictable. One game it'll be good; the next it'll be woeful.

You could say that about any of our strikers bar Berbatov to be fair, even Rooney's touch goes AWOL sometimes.
 
Rooney was pretty inconsistent at finishing when younger, as was ronaldo at the early stages. Henry wasn't very clinical until his second season at arsenal either. He will get better no doubt.

Both Ronaldo & Henry were wingers in their early days though, but it's a fair point. Rooney wasn't really inconsistent in front of goal, he just wasn't in front of goal as much. He scored less goals, but he was banging them in from all over the shop when he came through.
 
Its OK. No need to go over the top. Still very young and has huge areas where he has the talent to grow into as he gains experience. Its very bold of SAFs part to persist with him, for his development and educational purposes, in this high pressure run in. This investment in him will pay huge dividends in years to come.
 
Both Ronaldo & Henry were wingers in their early days though, but it's a fair point. Rooney wasn't really inconsistent in front of goal, he just wasn't in front of goal as much. He scored less goals, but he was banging them in from all over the shop when he came through.

They were but still had some shocking efforts on goal. As for Rooney, he scored fairly regularly but went through the runs of goal drought and in my opinion is miles better at finishing than he was in his early years.

Of course welbeck has also spent a fair amount of time on the wings during his early days. Confidence is a huge issue as well. When Forlan played for us he looked like a donkey in front of goal (although I loved him) but has since gone on to prove a world class finisher.
 
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