Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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He provides movement that Van Persie and Rooney don't when they're up top. I honestly think this might be a similar situation to the Van Nistelrooy/Saha dilemma in 06. Van Persie is clearly our best striker, but Welbeck creates more space in behind the oppositions midfield for players like Mata, Rooney and Kagawa to exploit.
 
He's been consistently good all year.
Not really. He was consistent in December (shit before then mostly), but then after the spurs game had a few shit games and then we didn't see him for like a month. Obviously he struggles out on the wing, like he was deployed for the first few months, and he's a lot more consistent up top, but he's still had a few stinkers up there (as has the rest of the team). Another who would benefit by getting rid of one of the strikers IMO.
 
He's been consistently good all year.

He's been good and did well today but he does need to improve his composure in front of goal if he wants to be United/England 9 especially when you consider he's not a rookie anymore and he's competing with the likes of Sturridge.

Hopefully he keeps on improving and he makes the 9 spot his own. Always good to see home grown players doing well.
 
He's been good and did well today but he does need to improve his composure in front of goal if he wants to be United/England 9 especially when you consider he's not a rookie anymore and he's competing with the likes of Sturridge.

Hopefully he keeps on improving and he makes the 9 spot his own. Always good to see home grown players doing well.

That's looking more and more silly as time goes on. He's got something like a goal in every 1 and a half prem appearances now. He's fine scoring wise.
 
He's like a saha where you think its a good fit for our attack because he offers so much of movement and mobility that our team plays better. But he needs to stop falling everytime he shoots.
 
Welbeck has 9 goals in 17 PL appearances this season. Negredo has 9 in 24. Yet one is called the donkey and other is called the beast by most.
 
That's looking more and more silly as time goes on. He's got something like a goal in every 1 and a half prem appearances now. He's fine scoring wise.

So you're saying his composure in front of goal is up to Sturridges level now? Let alone Rooney/RVP? If he was fine scoring wise he'd be ready to lead the line for United over an entire season and I don't think he's at that level yet.

That's not saying he's bad but he's still got some work to do on his finishing in comparison to our other strikers.
 
Striker conversion rates at #mufc: Rooney 13%, Hernandez 15%, Van Persie 21%, Welbeck 24%.
 
Welbeck has 9 goals in 17 PL appearances this season. Negredo has 9 in 24. Yet one is called the donkey and other is called the beast by most.

It's negredos first season in the epl and he's formed a far better understanding with aguero than Rvp and Rooney has.
 
It's negredos first season in the epl and he's formed a far better understanding with aguero than Rvp and Rooney has.

He's also five years older than Welbeck and is actually playing in a much better and attacking unit.
 
So you're saying his composure in front of goal is up to Sturridges level now? Let alone Rooney/RVP? If he was fine scoring wise he'd be ready to lead the line for United over an entire season and I don't think he's at that level yet.

That's not saying he's bad but he's still got some work to do on his finishing in comparison to our other strikers.

He's got Van Persie and Rooney ahead of him and starts sporadically. Sturridge would certainly not start for us.
 
I think Welbeck deserves a bit more game time in the next few weeks. I think he'd be very important in games like City, Liverpool, Olympiakos. He has been one of the few players in our team who's improved this season compared to last and would give us a bit more pace and fluidity up from compared to RVP or Rooney.
 
So you're saying his composure in front of goal is up to Sturridges level now? Let alone Rooney/RVP? If he was fine scoring wise he'd be ready to lead the line for United over an entire season and I don't think he's at that level yet.

That's not saying he's bad but he's still got some work to do on his finishing in comparison to our other strikers.

Yes I am saying that. As the stats show.
 
He's got Van Persie and Rooney ahead of him and starts sporadically. Sturridge would certainly not start for us.

That's what I actually said in my post. That RVP/Rooney are ahead of Sturridge/Welbeck.

I love Welbeck as a player, all I'm saying is that I don't think he's ready to lead the line for us... Yet.
 
Lots of energy when he came on and took his goal well, whatever happens I don't think there should be any doubt he has a value to the squad.
 
He was very unlucky to be benched when the other plays came back, because he'd done nothing to deserve it.

Imo, the form he's showed over the last few months should see him be first choice striker, if the other 2 want to play they need to earn it again.
 
9 league goals in 1172 minutes of football. A goal every 130 minutes.

He's scored all of those goals during the 891 minutes he's played centrally as well. Of his 20 PL goals for us only 2 have come from playing wide.

He can do a job on the wing, but it ain't his position.
 
He's scored all of those goals during the 891 minutes he's played centrally as well. Of his 20 PL goals for us only 2 have come from playing wide.

He can do a job on the wing, but it ain't his position.

Indeed. His goals per minute whilst playing centrally is at Hernandez/Van Nistelrooy levels this season. In addition to his all round game.

Although interestingly he has done well on the left of a front 3 for England, which does make things a little confusing.
 
I'd definitely be starting him. I think our football improves significantly when he plays
I think it's the same with England too. I really rate Welbeck, I think he's an excellent player, very clever on the field. He's got weaknesses individually, yes, but I think he's very good for his team.
 
If we're looking to get the best out of Januzaj, Rooney and Mata in the system we seem to be employing then Welbeck should be first choice. We desperately lack athleticism and pace in our front four at the moment. Welbeck is a handful, scores goals and is more versatile for interchanging positions.

RVP is obviously pure quality but he's not working well in the current system.
 
Indeed. His goals per minute whilst playing centrally is at Hernandez/Van Nistelrooy levels this season. In addition to his all round game.

Although interestingly he has done well on the left of a front 3 for England, which does make things a little confusing.
The England one does confuse me, unless Fergie tried to play him as an out and out winger while Hodgson plays him as more of a wide striker?
 
The England one does confuse me, unless Fergie tried to play him as an out and out winger while Hodgson plays him as more of a wide striker?

That's somewhat the case but it doesn't solely explain it. I mean, yes he gets into more goalscoring positons on the left of a 433 than a 442, but even on the left in our 442 last season Welbeck was getting into goal-scoring positions. He was just missing.

I suspect it might be a mentality/comfort thing.
 
That's somewhat the case but it doesn't solely explain it. I mean, yes he gets into more goalscoring positons on the left of a 433 than a 442, but even on the left in our 442 last season Welbeck was getting into goal-scoring positions. He was just missing.

I suspect it might be a mentality/comfort thing.
Or he just plays better for England :lol:
 
His pace and general physicality is a real asset. A complete different entity to the rest. If he can finish chances, he's a very useful player
 
I think at the moment he is adjusting to his new frame, he took a couple of growth spurts that caused him problems and now he has the massive upper body physique aswell, if he sorts his feet out and gets that composure back in and around the box and tight areas he will be a magnificent player.
 
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