Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Am I the only one who has never seen Rooney strike up a good partnership with anyone?

With the exception of Saha, he couldn't get a decent partnership with RVN, Tevez, RVP, Berbatov...

Welbeck has been gotten the closest to striking up a good partnership with him

He formed a good partnership with Hernandez too for a while.

He linked well with Tevez but they were too similar and it didn't work for the team as a whole.

RVN I thought they had a very good partnership but maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

I wouldn't hold it against Rooney though. He's capable of linking up with the right sort of players (Ronaldo, Kagawa, Nani, Welbeck) - but we've paired him with the wrong players too often.
 
His off the ball work has blatantly not disimproved. He's obviously making more of an effort to get on the end of things in the box. A flaw in his game in previous seasons. Hence he's more prolific.

Other than that, your stats tell us feck all. Anyway, why are you comparing him to Rooney and RvP this season when I was comparing his own efforts, this season and last?

Incorrect, he's clearly not moved the ball on as well as previously.
 
That's not true at all. He didn't have a great game when he started the 3-1 defeat against Chelsea, played his part in that horrific double-header against Sunderland in the Carling Cup, then had another very poor game against Stoke shortly after (replacing Jones at half time) which was the last game in which he featured.

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Wellbeck has never ever played badly when played up front.
 
He had a great partnership with Hernandez, was good with Ruud, Tevez he was also generally pretty good with after a bit of a slow start together. He was just streaky then but the two of them linked up really well along with Ronaldo. Then he was good with Saha, and Welbeck that one year. If anything he's usually been really good with other players, exceptions being RVP (though I think they could still do well under a good manager) and Berba, but more because Berba didn't suit us at all.

Anyways, on Welbeck, if we're talking about partnerships, he'd be way down the pecking order currently to me. Nothing against him, but we have plenty of great partnerships that would be great for the team overall.
Either Rooney-RVP together, 1 of RVP/Rooney with Mata behind them, or one of RVP/Rooney with Kagawa behind them. So basically for Welbeck to get starts he needs both Rooney and RVP to be out injured, but that's only as a lone striker (which to be honest is how we should approach any game).
Did well with Hernandez in 10/11. He thrives of players who push the oppositions defence back, thus giving him space to attack.

Yeah you're both right...Hernandez and him were good for the time they played together....However limited the time was.

Still think him and Welbeck were great in 11/12...Welbeck seemed to do a lot of the hard work Rooney had done previous thus leaving Rooney to do his thing. Welbeck against Liverpool that year was fantastic.
 
I've made this comparison a while ago and I still stand by it. Welbeck is our new Ji-Sung Park and I say that as a compliment.

I don't think Welbeck will ever become an elite player in world football, but he can become a very key part of our squad and someone we can usually rely on. And also like Park up until his last season, I don't think there's ever been a time that I've looked at Welbeck and thought he wasn't giving his all for us.
 
Am I the only one who has never seen Rooney strike up a good partnership with anyone?

With the exception of Saha, he couldn't get a decent partnership with RVN, Tevez, RVP, Berbatov...

Welbeck has been gotten the closest to striking up a good partnership with him

Everyone's got their own opinions, but I personally think Rooney links up really well with others. Welbeck, Kagawa, Hernandez, and more recently Mata, are the players Rooney, who I personally feel has linked up very well with over the past few years.
 
United fans I talk to go on about the work Rene was doing with Danny.

Does anybody know what they mean?
 
Eh? :wenger:

As a partnership, and I am talking about a partnership, don't you think Rooney and Welbeck are superior to Rooney and Van Persie? Serious question. I expect a serious, mature answer.

Cheers.
No. Because I don't rate Welbeck as a finisher, or as a decisive player. If we were playing City tomorrow, who'd you pick? Honestly.
 
No. Because I don't rate Welbeck as a finisher, or as a decisive player. If we were playing City tomorrow, who'd you pick? Honestly.

Of course I would pick Van Persie over Welbeck, as like you said, he's a better finisher. One chance and you would expect RVP to put it away. However, I feel you've misinterpreted me, because I feel you're comparing individual abilities rather than how the both play as a partnership.

You said you don't rate Welbeck as a finisher. To me, I feel this is irrelevant when judging how well a partnership is together. What you should be judging, in my opinion, is the amount of passes the make to each other and link up play. We all know Van Persie, like I said before, is a better finisher than Welbeck, and on individual ability wise, Rooney and Van Persie are a superior to Rooney and Welbeck, and would most likely scare more defences than the latter. However, I think as a partnership, Rooney and Welbeck cause more trouble and link up a lot better.
 
No. Because I don't rate Welbeck as a finisher, or as a decisive player. If we were playing City tomorrow, who'd you pick? Honestly.

The way their partnership is going on this year, I would pick Crouch-Kenwyne Jones ahead of them. No one said Welbeck is better player, but that their partnership is really awfull this year.
 
The way their partnership is going on this year, I would pick Crouch-Kenwyne Jones ahead of them. No one said Welbeck is better player, but that their partnership is really awfull this year.

81 crosses with Crouch and Jones as strikers :drool:
 
Eh? :wenger:

As a partnership, and I am talking about a partnership, don't you think Rooney and Welbeck are superior to Rooney and Van Persie? Serious question. I expect a serious, mature answer.

Cheers.

In terms of synergy probably, nowhere near in terms of ability and expected level of performance.
 
Rooney linked up brilliantly with Tevez, far less so with any other forward before or since.

RvP and Rooney are a lethal pair of individual forwards but I don't recall ever seeing them combine well to rip back lines apart.
 
Rooney linked up brilliantly with Tevez, far less so with any other forward before or since.

RvP and Rooney are a lethal pair of individual forwards but I don't recall ever seeing them combine well to rip back lines apart.

It was more about the occasional great Rooney longball for RVP to chase and get his shot away. Thats how they linked up well. We havent seen too much of that this season, and with no Scholes and Giggs not playing much RVP must be hurting from not being found over the top. So you'd think we'd try and get more Rooney balls through for RVP not less.
 
Very poorly

If you feel the quote I made below was poor, then a) you didn't read it properly, if at all b) you struggle when it comes to reading and writing complex sentences, which would probably explain why your sentences very rarely exceeds 10 words.

Have another go.

Of course I would pick Van Persie over Welbeck, as like you said, he's a better finisher. One chance and you would expect RVP to put it away. However, I feel you've misinterpreted me, because I feel you're comparing individual abilities rather than how the both play as a partnership.

You said you don't rate Welbeck as a finisher. To me, I feel this is irrelevant when judging how well a partnership is together. What you should be judging, in my opinion, is the amount of passes the make to each other and link up play. We all know Van Persie, like I said before, is a better finisher than Welbeck, and on individual ability wise, Rooney and Van Persie are a superior to Rooney and Welbeck, and would most likely scare more defences than the latter. However, I think as a partnership, Rooney and Welbeck cause more trouble and link up a lot better.
 
Good cameo.

The thing I like about him in comparison with RVP is that he presses the backline really well.

If he was more consistent with his attacking play in the final 3rd he'd be an incredible no. 9.
 
9 league goals in 1172 minutes of football. A goal every 130 minutes.

Very good indeed.
 
Very good performance. He's given Moyes something to think about. Wouldn't be surprised to see him come on in Januzaj's place next week.
 
Again making mockery of those geniuses who wrote him off earlier.
 
Lovely goal, but to be honest I nearly cheered as loud for his tackle on...I think it was Anichebe?...just afterwards. 3-0 up, and he goes charging back down the pitch to win us the ball back. Fantastic tracking back from him.
 
That finish was sexy :drool: but what made it better is the great buildup. Somebody pinch me, when was the last time Utd scored a goal like that ??

Reminds me of Nani's chip against Arsenal in some ways.
 
Double figures, lad!

He's a very good striker when he, you know, plays as a striker. Very good when he came on.
 
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