Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

[Ramshock]

Such a frustrating player. I really dont think he will cut it here.

 

[Bojan11]

He's a good squad player to have. Is anyone arguing that?

I don't think he'd make it here as a starter though.

 

[Bloxy]

You might as well say, needed the goalkeeper not to make a ricket, or the team not to drop deep against a shit side or the manger not to bottle the substitutions. Keep digging.

Yeah yeah!! no point in arguing with you, clearly you just don't get it do you?

all those goals, none against a decent team or when it really matters.

 

[Amar__]

Agreed. You can sense a couple of members on here waiting for him to monumentally screw up, so they can criticise him, yet they forget that he's never performed brilliantly as a LW consistently or as a SS (bar the game against Real Madrid). He was great in December when he actually played as a centre-forward. His performance today is inexcusable, which I can easily admit.

Yeah, I will happily admit that he had a stinker, but saying he isn't United quality every time he has shit game on the left or behind the striker(because others aren't good enough to play there) is really ridiculous, especially after period where he was our best performer in a team that played really poor.

 

[psychdelicblues]

Yeah yeah!! no point in arguing with you, clearly you just don't get it do you?

all those goals, none against a decent team or when it really matters.

Now you are just embarrassingly parroting the last few posts on this thread. You just don't get it do you?

 

[Chabon]

Yeah yeah!! no point in arguing with you, clearly you just don't get it do you?

all those goals, none against a decent team or when it really matters.

Like i said, five times he scored our first goal and three times he scored our second. When exactly the feck does it 'really matter'?

 

[bosnian_red]

Was awful today, as he usually is partnered with Hernandez. He's a #9, nothing else. He doesn't have some amazing game outside of the box that makes him capable of playing other positions. He's not very good in the hole, he's awful out wide. He should be treated the same way as Hernandez really. If you don't play him up front, don't play him at all.
I wasn't surprised at all with his penalty either to be honest, he doesn't seem like someone who would be good at them. I thought he'd slip while taking it, considering the amount of times he slipped today. Wouldn't be too worried about him though, he'll move on from here and get better. We need RVP back though because Welbeck isn't anywhere near good enough yet.

 

[lem8sh]

Not good enough simple as.

 

[Bloxy]

Now you are just embarrassingly parroting the last few posts on this thread. You just don't get it do you?

Yes, exactly that. Now feck off

 

[Bloxy]

Like i said, five times he scored our first goal and three times he scored our second. When exactly the feck does it 'really matter'?

Tonight.

 

[Madthinker]

It's not the penalty, it's that he offered sweet feck all in the attack. Constantly slipped over and giving the ball away.

Actual fact: he had the highest pass completion rate of anyone in our side.

Say what you will about Rooney and Ronaldo, but I go into a game confident they can score. Same with Hernandez (who also had a shit game tonight, but still managed a goal) with Welbeck I have no confidence. I was dreading his penalty, and I was proven right. Of all the strikers United have had over the years, Welbeck would be the last one I'd throw on in the last few minutes if we were dying for a goal.

It's not his job to give you confidence that he will score. It's his job to actually do it (amongst other things), which he has been doing recently.

 

[Madthinker]

Tonight.

So, not say, in the Champions League against Real Madrid?

 

[Ekeke]

Truly the worst general performance I've seen from him. Probably including when he was left side at Sunderland.

 

[Kostur]

Not good enough on the wing I feel, not rocking shit at #10. Stick him to #9, he's done great there this season.

 

[Bloxy]

So, not say, in the Champions League against Real Madrid?

tonight was arguably one of the biggest games in the last few month just in terms of taking the pressure off the team and the manager, and there was an expectation to actually win the game tonight. So yes tonight would have really mattered.

 

[psychdelicblues]

To be fair you're more likely to feck off then Welbeck, simply because he has the support and patience of the club from top to bottom,coming through the academy and being a local lad.

 

[Bloxy]

To be fair you're more likely to feck off then Welbeck, simply because he has the support and patience of the club from top to bottom,coming through the academy and being a local lad.

agreed that he has the support from top down and maybe that's part of the problem; I still think you should feck off though!

 

[Chabon]

tonight was arguably one of the biggest games in the last few month just in terms of taking the pressure off the team and the manager, and there was an expectation to actually win the game tonight. So yes tonight would have really mattered.

Well, he set up the goal which should have won us the tie.

 

[Lynk]

Well, he set up the goal which should have won us the tie.

Januzaj did the difficult part.

 

[Brophs]

I love Danny but he can be infuriatingly casual at times.

 

[RedSky]

Not good enough on the wing I feel, not rocking shit at #10. Stick him to #9, he's done great there this season.

THIS. So fecking frustrating seeing Danny out on the wing. Just fecking no.

 

[Madthinker]

tonight was arguably one of the biggest games in the last few month just in terms of taking the pressure off the team and the manager, and there was an expectation to actually win the game tonight. So yes tonight would have really mattered.

I'm not denying that today's game "matters" to some extent.

But the league matters just as much, and Welbeck has been scoring (8 from 11 when played up front). In the Champions League, he's scored in the biggest tie we've had in years.

You said he has none against decent teams or when it really matters. This suggests that you consider the league cup to be more important than the league, and Real Madrid not to be a decent side.

 

[Bloxy]

I'm not denying that today's game "matters" to some extent.

But the league matters just as much, and Welbeck has been scoring (8 from 11 when played up front). In the Champions League, he's scored in the biggest tie we've had in years.

You said he has none against decent teams or when it really matters. This suggests that you consider the league cup to be more important than the league, and Real Madrid not to be a decent side.

I just expected a great deal more from Danny tonight, especially with no Rooney or RVP. RM last year was a one-off.

 

[Lynk]

THIS. So fecking frustrating seeing Danny out on the wing. Just fecking no.

When was he on the wing tonight? He played as a striker.

 

[Chabon]

But the league matters just as much, and Welbeck has been scoring (8 from 11 when played up front). In the Champions League, he's scored in the biggest tie we've had in years.

9 starts and 1 sub appearances in a central position in the PL, eight goals.

 

[MoneyMay]

He played on the wings in extra time.

 

[Eric'sCollar]

Missed a penalty, as do most players, yes it was a bad one but he needs our support.

In saying that, someone seriously needs to check his studs, he slips more than Park.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

He played on the wing for the last bit of the first half too when he moved Kagawa inside (which indirectly led to a goal no less)... but even when he was playing as a forward he was still playing behind Hernandez - and he was pretty terrible there. His best position is as the furthest man forward, or for some bizarre reason, as a winger for England.

 

[Amar__]

He played around 10-15 minutes as a winger in first half too, and for 15 minutes in second(Kagawa played in the middle for whole second half he was on the pitch) , and he was there for last 30 minutes of the match too. That's pretty much half of the game he spent on the wing, and second half he spent behind Hernandez.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

He was unnecessarily coming deep to pull the strings. Kagawa and Carrick were often seen hesitating almost looking for someone to make a run and being forced to play into his feet as he came deep far too often.

Its natural when you're not playing in a confident side but I thought his movement was really really poor and affected what was originally a solid display from the back but eventually because they either lost the ball with poor touches or hit shots wide we got pegged back.

 

[Kraftwerker]

Still a good few levels above Hernandez.

Hernandez was abysmal last night, even if he did score that goal.

At least Welbeck can take a touch.

 

[Giggsforever]

Hernandez at least had his chances. Danny had none. none. He has absolutely no idea what to do in the box

He starts his runs in the box when he can see were the ball is played, he is always to late. He need to find space and attack likely areas, I find it strange that a player at this level, playing/training with such clever attackers, hasn't figured that out. Two poor attempts to connect to crosses after ten minutes yesterday, made me a bit mad actually.

 

[Chabon]

I was number crunching in that somewhat tedious Sturridge/Welbeck thread in the other forum, and this statistic is one which might surprise people. Danny Welbeck has played 813 minutes up front in the PL this season, and scored 8 goals. In other words he's scored a goal every 102 minutes whilst playing up front.

 

[ryan_forlan]

Where was he in the last match. not in the squad. is he injured?

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

He has played a lot of football in the last weeks.

Rested IMO

 

[LawCharltonBest]

What do people think of Welbeck's chances of breaking into the team going forward?

With the front 4 we have now, and may potentially be adding to in the Summer, I just don't think the boy cuts the mustard. On his day Jesus Lord is Welbeck good, but like Nani I think those match-winning performances are far too sparce. Welbeck should not be a worse player than Sturridge right now, but unfortunately he is.

It's a tough one because you don't like to see United sell talented (on his day super talented) members of their own system, but is Welbeck really going to be happy as a squad player for the next few seasons?

I also still don't know whether he is a striker or winger yet.

 

[kouroux]

It will depend on his ambition, it's to be a starter for Man Utd or a player happy to contribute in any possible way

 

[Sir A1ex]

There'll be plenty of use for Welbeck going forwards. As long as he's happy to largely play a supporting role, with relatively few starts against the weaker teams for another couple of seasons, we can see where we are once RVP starts getting a bit long in the tooth and Rooney next starts trying to leave.
There's still every chance that if he continues to knuckle down and learn, then in a year or two he'll become a player who forces his way into the team.

Comparisons to Sturridge are unfair - Liverpool only have two strikers, and Welbeck would be starting every week for them too.

 

[Ubik]

What do people think of Welbeck's chances of breaking into the team going forward?

With the front 4 we have now, and may potentially be adding to in the Summer, I just don't think the boy cuts the mustard. On his day Jesus Lord is Welbeck good, but like Nani I think those match-winning performances are far too sparce. Welbeck should not be a worse player than Sturridge right now, but unfortunately he is.

It's a tough one because you don't like to see United sell talented (on his day super talented) members of their own system, but is Welbeck really going to be happy as a squad player for the next few seasons?

I also still don't know whether he is a striker or winger yet.

Should be fairly obvious that he's a striker at this point. He's had a good season so far, could get close to 15 league goals if he gets more time up front.

 

[bosnian_red]

What do people think of Welbeck's chances of breaking into the team going forward?

With the front 4 we have now, and may potentially be adding to in the Summer, I just don't think the boy cuts the mustard. On his day Jesus Lord is Welbeck good, but like Nani I think those match-winning performances are far too sparce. Welbeck should not be a worse player than Sturridge right now, but unfortunately he is.

It's a tough one because you don't like to see United sell talented (on his day super talented) members of their own system, but is Welbeck really going to be happy as a squad player for the next few seasons?

I also still don't know whether he is a striker or winger yet.

Well for one he's definitely a striker. He's pretty terrible on the wing for me, and he's not very good behind the striker. Also I think he'll be fine with being a squad player. He knows he's not on the level of our other strikers, and its up to him to improve, make more of an impact on games, be more consistent and try to get into the team. I'm not convinced personally that he does have what it takes to be a world class player, he just doesn't have the certain quality/personality which separates the best from the rest. He's a good player don't get me wrong, but at United we've always had world class forwards starting for us, and I can't see that changing, nor should it.