Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Ubik said:
Rooney, of course, has never taken a shit penalty.

Ronaldo, obviously, never missed one badly in a big final either.
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It's not the penalty, it's that he offered sweet feck all in the attack. Constantly slipped over and giving the ball away.



Say what you will about Rooney and Ronaldo, but I go into a game confident they can score. Same with Hernandez (who also had a shit game tonight, but still managed a goal) with Welbeck I have no confidence. I was dreading his penalty, and I was proven right. Of all the strikers United have had over the years, Welbeck would be the last one I'd throw on in the last few minutes if we were dying for a goal.
 
Drainy said:
yes, he's a very good striker for Manchester United who had a quiet game.
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Get out. RVP and Rooney are "very good". He's fecking average and if he wasn't a youth player he'd be long gone. We'd never sign a player like him so why do we have him in the squad?
 
Sixpence said:
Get out. RVP and Rooney are "very good". He's fecking average and if he wasn't a youth player he'd be long gone. We'd never sign a player like him so why do we have him in the squad?
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Because he's a back-up striker who's scored six goals in seven starts since our first-choice number 9 got injured, you utter spastic.
 
Sixpence said:
Get out. RVP and Rooney are "very good". He's fecking average and if he wasn't a youth player he'd be long gone. We'd never sign a player like him so why do we have him in the squad?
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Because United promote youth players and yes we only sign top class players all the time.
 
I'm still waiting for those examples of players with better goals per minute ratios than him this season.
 
Chabon said:
Because he's a back-up striker who's scored six goals in seven starts since our first-choice number 9 got injured, you utter spastic.
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The only spastic here is the one who called him a "very good striker". Oh, and you of course.
 
Lynk said:
It's not the penalty, it's that he offered sweet feck all in the attack. Constantly slipped over and giving the ball away.

Say what you will about Rooney and Ronaldo, but I go into a game confident they can score. Same with Hernandez (who also had a shit game tonight, but still managed a goal) with Welbeck I have no confidence. I was dreading his penalty, and I was proven right. Of all the strikers United have had over the years, Welbeck would be the last one I'd throw on in the last few minutes if we were dying for a goal.
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It was addressed more at the person who equated missing a penalty with being a crap striker. I didn't have faith in any of our penalty takers today, they looked completely out on their feet and conceding the late goal, regardless of having got one straight after, meant Sunderland would've finished the more positive. Hernandez couldn't even take a penalty. Welbeck managed to assist our first goal as well, which obviously counts for nothing.

I don't really remember him having a bad game either, maybe I was just focusing too much on the team in general being woeful.
 
Last couple of games hes been playing the second striker role, just for defensive puposes. Stupid IMO.
 
Sixpence said:
The only spastic here is the one who called him a "very good striker". Oh, and you of course.
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Go on then, in what way has he not been 'very good' when actually playing as a striker this season?
 
UnitedBoy said:
Last couple of games hes been playing the second striker role, just for defensive puposes. Stupid IMO.
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What's the point of playing him as a 9 when he has no composure? This constant obsessive defense of him is just embarrassing.
 
Sixpence said:
Get out. RVP and Rooney are "very good". He's fecking average and if he wasn't a youth player he'd be long gone. We'd never sign a player like him so why do we have him in the squad?
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No RvP is world class, Rooney is outstanding and Welbeck is very good and promising.. he'd be a player we'd be scouting extensively if he were at another club.

I can understand the frustration. We've had a terrible week and he's been fairly quiet in both games (even if he was instrumental in 2/3 goals) so the kneejerkers are going to be out in force..
 
Baffled as to why Danny's getting criticised ahead of Hernandez who was far worse on the ball and actually missed a one-on-one.
 
Chabon said:
Go on then, in what way has he not been 'very good' when actually playing as a striker this season?
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Did he score against a big team this year? Has any of his goals been decisive? (Swansea away aside)


Genuine question here.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Baffled as to why Danny's getting criticised ahead of Hernandez who was far worse on the ball and actually missed a one-on-one.
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Hernandez can play shit and actually score when it matters. Good luck getting that from Welbeck.
 
Lynk said:
Did he score against a big team this year? Has any of his goals been decisive? (Swansea away aside)


Genuine question here.
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How many goals have we scored against big teams this year? In how many of the big games was he playing in his preferred position as a striker?
 
Nickosaur said:
How many goals have we scored against big teams this year? In how many of the big games was he playing in his preferred position as a striker?
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Would you trust him as our main striker against a big team?
 
psychdelicblues said:
Indeed. 6 goals in his last 9 starts and 3 assists. A joke of a post in an open forum. Can you believe that?
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No I can't actually. Tonight was an important game and we needed our striker to be the best player on the pitch. That's how it works right? Strikers win games.

Try not be a smart arse.
 
Lynk using this as an opportunity to criticise Welbeck, yet he was voted as Player of the Month in December on here and contributed well when we had no Van Persie. One performance doesn't change anything.
 
Lynk said:
What's the point of playing him as a 9 when he has no composure? This constant obsessive defense of him is just embarrassing.
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He's done well recently - but long term united will, you would hope, have forwards of the quality of RVP and Rooney, as its a key position. Few teams without top forwards win trophies on a regular basis.

All well and good having good bursts of goal scoring but you need to be clinical and ever reliable - especially in high pressure games.

He's a good player, good athlete and works his socks off. Fair play to him. Just not a real top quality forward in my opinion.
 
The funny thing is that his penalty was one of the better ones :lol:

It's just ridiculous playing him on left wing in our system, when played up top in last month or so he looked like one of the best players in the league, but as soon as we use him left, he is nowhere near as good. I think he can work out as left inside forward, but definitely not as left winger. And blaming him because his managers are insisting on playing him there because he is good defensively is also ridiculous.
 
Bloxy said:
No I can't actually. Tonight was an important game and we needed our striker to be the best player on the pitch. That's how it works right? Strikers win games.

Try not be a smart arse.
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You might as well say, needed the goalkeeper not to make a ricket, or the team not to drop deep against a shit side or the manger not to bottle the substitutions. Keep digging.
 
Hernandez was far worse. Welbeck had to do a lot of running a shutting down when playing off Hernandez and it probably took it's toll. Hernandez on the other hand couldn't control a ball for the whole game.
 
Amar__ said:
The funny thing is that his penalty was one of the better ones :lol:

It's just ridiculous playing him on left wing in our system, when played up top in last month or so he looked like one of the best players in the league, but as soon as we use him left, he is nowhere near as good. I think he can work out as left inside forward, but definitely not as left winger. And blaming him because his managers are insisting on playing him there because he is good defensively is also ridiculous.
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Agreed. You can sense a couple of members on here waiting for him to monumentally screw up, so they can criticise him, yet they forget that he's never performed brilliantly as a LW consistently or as a SS (bar the game against Real Madrid). He was great in December when he actually played as a centre-forward. His performance today is inexcusable, which I can easily admit.
 
Lynk said:
What's the point of playing him as a 9 when he has no composure? This constant obsessive defense of him is just embarrassing.
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The point of playing him as a 9 is that when he plays there he scores goals, you relentless ignoramus.

Five times he's scored our first, three times he's scored our second, and only once had he scored an irrelevant goal (that ridiculous chip against Swansea).

Bloxy said:
surely you have to admit that he's been poor against decent teams.
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His only matches as a number 9 against big sides (if we don't count Spurs, where he scored) were the City and Chelsea away games.

Are you going to blame him for not making a major impact in those?
 
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