I suppose that Moyes will use Welbeck somewhere on the pitch anyway because Moyes <3 Welbeck although I do think that it would be fair if he rotated them in the #9 spot, I do think that Danny deserves it after his last performances.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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I suspect hes not fully fit at the moment. Still its great to see this thread being bumped in a positive sense. Some idiotic comments made in here this season.
Welbeck has a 28% conversion rate this season. That's excellent.
That really depends on whether Moyes will continue to play him as a striker after RVP comes back from injury.
If we are going to call this season as a transition then it only makes sense if lads like Welbeck, Jones and Smalling end up becoming main stay of first team by end of the season.
If we are going to call this season as a transition then it only makes sense if lads like Welbeck, Jones and Smalling end up becoming main stay of first team by end of the season.
I'd start him tomorrow, even if RVP is back, which he is supposed to be. I don't think you can drop him and RVP is obviously is not going to be quite at full fitness.
Problem arises when RVP is back fully because he's going to put back in the side. January is fine for that because of the cup competitions but probably come a point when Danny is either left wing again or out of the side this season.
Problem arises when RVP is back fully because he's going to put back in the side. January is fine for that because of the cup competitions but probably come a point when Danny is either left wing again or out of the side this season.
Not a United fan but delighted to see Welbeck doing well goal scoring wise. For the past 2 years he's been England's best player and unfairly maligned due to his club goalscoring, hopefully a continuation of this form will see him get the credit he deserves. The rest of his game has always impressed me so to add goals, he's a real potential top level striker.
Really nice to hear someone who's not a United fan saying that. The percentage of non United fans who don't rate him at all is incredible. I mean, he's the sort of player who you just have to watch run with the ball for ten seconds to see how class he is. Or so you'd think.
It's fecking brilliant, is what it is.
Especially when compared to:
Suarez 22%
Messi 20%
Ronaldo 17%
Rooney 15%
RVP 18%
Welbeck's finishing has never been as bad as some people have argued, not even last season. His problem is simply that he spends so much time outside of the box, not getting into dangerous positions, that he doesn't give himself the chance to be prolific. But then if you take away his work in deeper areas he wouldn't be the same player, and the team as a whole wouldn't create as many chances. It's a price that SAF and DM have both willingly paid.
Can't hurt to ease RvP back in gently, besides Welbeck has earned it the way he's played. I'd start him and bring RvP on if he starts to tire, he has played quite a bit lately.
I think we've played our best football under Moyes with Welbeck up front. That may just be a coincidence with the fact that the manager has only recently got the squad marching to his beat but, as things stand, Welbz's pace and physicality up front has been a massive boon to the way opposition teams face up against us. RVP may well be the better player, but I'd agree with the notion that he needs to earn his place back.
welbeck's form make it easier for moyes to ease rvp back this time around. should benefit both players and the team as well.
from FIFA.com.
Typical Welbeck.....
Intirely different animal as a second striker with more space
What was typical? That he is our only player who looks like a threat to opposition defences? I would rather say, typical Danny hater, he didn't have one clear chance in this game apart from the goal which wasn't the clearest chance either, but he finished it nicely.
Probably the only positive was that he's kept his scoring run going. He's a confidence player.
Great finish, and good game generally but he must slip and fall over more then any other player, it's ridiculous 
Great finish, and good game generally but he must slip and fall over more then any other player, it's ridiculous
He should cut that out, but I really think that's because he seems like he always tries more than others tbf.
Alongside Adnan and party Rooney our only bright spots today.
Well it's not like he's trying to slip, it just be something with the way he runs or something or plants his feet, because it happens all the time.
Repaying the manager's faith in him now - was absolute garbage earlier in the season.
Hard to be positive today but it was a great finish, glad for him in that sense.
Brilliant finish. Looked like a proper striker these last few games.
not much to say other than confidence makes a big difference
Amidst all the misery of this season, his rounding into form has been a very pleasant surprise. I've been a big critic of him, but he's been fantastic lately, and he took his goal beautifully today. He also looks like one of the few who gives it his all, from the beginning of the game, not just when we fall behind.
I really do think Danny has a key part in our future if we want to play at a high tempo with lots of pressing, he's perfect for it if he continues scoring like he is, never stops running.
Anyone prefer him to play deeper rather than Rooney?
I think Rooney just slows things down too much.
I think Rooney just slows things down too much.
Its Carrick that slows things down not Rooney.
Fair play to Welbeck, now he has the goals to match the play as well. He offers so much to the team even when not scoring but thought it was harsh him how the media talked about him scoring more goals despite being played out wide all the time. Now he's up front we're seeing he can score well too.
RVP will be coming back up front though, its just going to happen soon just as Rooney would walk straight back in even if Kagawa had a good run in his position and did well. What I like about Welbeck though its that even when he doesn't score he's always up to something, always involved.
RVP will be coming back up front though, its just going to happen soon just as Rooney would walk straight back in even if Kagawa had a good run in his position and did well. What I like about Welbeck though its that even when he doesn't score he's always up to something, always involved.
He would score even more in last few weeks if delivery was better.
He's been our best player recently and he deserves to keep his place when rvp returns, i really don't want to see him playing wide again, it's a difficult decision for moyes specially considering all the nonsense about rvp wanting to leave, but you can't drop someone playing that well.
He played very well with RVP last season against Liverpool, that side didn't have Rooney though, so it's tough to find a side with the 3 of them in there with Welbeck up front.
One of them would have to play wide and we know it'll be welbeck, but we shouldn't shift anyone wide just to make them happy, it won't work anyway, welbeck should keep his place and soon enough rvp will get his chance to earn it back.
He made the goal look far simpler than it actually was with the good finish. Angle was tight and the keeper came off his lines quickly to close him down but he had the right mind to dink it over him.
We should play 4-3-1-2 and feck the wingers off, Januzaj, Welbeck , RVP interchanging with Rooney deeper as one of the midfield 3. Only issue then is Evra is fecked with no protection. We have to fit our best attacking players in somehow and none of them happen to be wingers.
Similar to Mandzukic in that sense. Tireless worker who defends from the front. That's valuable asset to have at this moment in football and I hope we can build on that.
from whoscored.comPlayer Focus: Danny Welbeck Excelling as United's Main Striker
In the absence of Robin van Persie, Danny Welbeck has been charged with leading the Manchester United attack. The England international has been forced to deal with his doubters in the past, but he’s been a leading light for the Premier League champions of late.
Granted, United succumbed to a 2-1 defeat to Tottenham on New Year’s Day, but his goal, a deft chip over the onrushing Hugo Lloris following a darting run between Vlad Chiriches and Michael Dawson meant he has now scored 5 goals in his last 5 top flight appearances. This takes his seasonal tally to 7 in the league, a significant mark up on his solitary goal last term.
Pertinently, his last 5 strikes have come when he’s been operating as the focal point in the attack for United, although 1 of those was as a substitute in the 1-0 win over Norwich City where he partnered Javier Hernández up front. Evidently, manager David Moyes has looked to utilise Welbeck in his favoured position, with that being as the lead striker rather than in the supporting midfield trio.
This notion is reinforced in that 11 of the 17 league goals he's scored since becoming a regular in the United first team have come when he’s started as a striker. Unfortunately for him, Van Persie will often be given the nod to lead the attack such has been his importance to the club since signing from Arsenal 18 months ago.
The Dutchman netted 26 times in the Premier league last term and while he’s failed to replicate his form this season - in part due to injury - it’s likely Van Persie will regain the spot upon his return. Nevertheless, Welbeck has performed above and beyond expectations in the role for United, as highlighted in his goals-to-game return in those appearances in the position. The only time he didn’t score when operating as the lead frontman came in the 3-2 win over Hull on Boxing Day.
His average WhoScored rating of 7.69 in those 5 appearances reinforces how impressive a performer he is as a striker, especially when taking into account that his rating sat at a lowly 6.49 in his 9 appearances prior to them. A notable difference is the significant increase in shots per game he’s taking, averaging 3.2 per encounter up front compared to only 1.3 when he’s utilised elsewhere. The faith placed in him by Moyes has evidently had a positive effect on the player, with Welbeck seemingly more confident in his goalscoring ability than he has been in the past.
With a conversion rate of 25%, only Yaya Touré (29.4%) and Seamus Coleman (27.8%) are performing better in that respect of every player to score 5 or more Premier League goals this season. United are desperate for a goalscorer in Van Persie's continued absence and Welbeck is providing on that front as they look to defend the title. As the lead striker, that figure rises to 31.3%; his seasonal conversion rate has risen impressively from a disappointing 2.6% last season.
With Van Persie sidelined for the foreseeable future and doubts surrounding whether he’ll be with the club come the end of January, Moyes can call upon Welbeck to lead the attack without the former Arsenal star. Favouring a 4-2-3-1 formation in the Premier League, his pace and ability to get in behind the defence will also see his teammates prosper.
A prime example of this came in the 2-2 draw with Spurs last month, where Welbeck broke down the left to win a penalty from Lloris and help United secure a point at White Hart Lane. Moreover, his movement off the ball will benefit the more creative players available to Moyes, most notably Wayne Rooney.
The 28-year-old has operated as the central attacking midfielder in 4 of Welbeck’s 5 appearances as a striker, missing only the win over Norwich due to injury. The England international has been in impressive form for United under Moyes, highlighted in his 9 goals and 9 assists; no player has bettered the latter in Europe’s top 5 leagues so far.
The inventiveness Rooney brings to the team is evidently a benefit to the Manchester outfit and it’s Welbeck that is profiting tremendously with his compatriot in support. Furthermore, this link up play between the pairing bodes well for the national team ahead of the World Cup this summer as England look to spring a surprise in Brazil.
For the champions, this form as the lead striker is a boost to Moyes as he aims to win over the United faithful this term. While Van Persie’s injury was initially a blow, Welbeck’s upturn in form has seen the club win 4 of their last 5 games and allowed the player to showcase his ability in a position that he clearly excels in, and will be hoping he can eventually call his own.
I just hope this run of good form leads to him never playing wide-left again.
It's such a waste of his talent playing out there, and also, juxtapositionally, is a negative tactic on our behalf.
It's such a waste of his talent playing out there, and also, juxtapositionally, is a negative tactic on our behalf.
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