Taken off with a knee problem. Don't know if it will keep him out or not. Hopefully he won't miss any action.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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he is beginning to look the part...hope he can play some part in the next 3 matches. We need to win all 3 to keep in touch with the leaders.
Exactly, the psychological aspect in football is crazy at times. Confidence transforms players to sometimes amazing levels.
Any update on his injury?
Yeh but rather than sharing we thought we'd keep it to ourselves instead.
Great to see him scoring...Always had big hopes for him but needs to be a consistent goalscorer.
I remember last year, he tore Liverpool to shreds with his movement, speed, agility and passing while playing the number 10 role. Was such a joy to watch...I'm Irish but I've spent a hell of a lot of time in Manchester so to me it feels like a proper local talent having had the chance to see him in person loads of times before he got into the first team (there will be scoffs and laughs at that sentence)
I'm a massive fan of his...I know he can be incredible if he puts the effort in..Just suppose we need to be patient
I remember last year, he tore Liverpool to shreds with his movement, speed, agility and passing while playing the number 10 role. Was such a joy to watch...I'm Irish but I've spent a hell of a lot of time in Manchester so to me it feels like a proper local talent having had the chance to see him in person loads of times before he got into the first team (there will be scoffs and laughs at that sentence)
I'm a massive fan of his...I know he can be incredible if he puts the effort in..Just suppose we need to be patient
Nice. Personally I've been a fan of his since his under 18 days. I'm just a bit surprised his goal scoring from his under age days hasn't translated as quickly to senior football. I love his movement, work rate and intelligence.
Great to see Welbeck scoring 3 in 3.
One thing I would say if you see the way Welbeck and Rooney link up for the first goal, I think you can see why we have tried playing him off the left. He's the further player forward, but his position is not central, it's starting from the left, and the flick and interaction with Rooney gets him in behind the back four and leads to the goal.
There is no reason if Danny was playing off the left, Rooney was deep with RVP or some other combination, that he could not do that from there, if we were setting up for the width to mainly be given by the full backs and it's similar to the way Kagawa plays from the left.
For now, and with RVP out, I'd continue playing him centrally as it is unquestionably his best position but I have always be of the view that Danny could be used from out wide(he played there regularly for the academy) and that it is not a defensive move due to his work rate. Danny's technical ability, touch and link up play are top quality and getting him linking up with Rooney, Januzaj, RVP, Nani, Kagawa etc could lead us to create chances centrally with that type of play as long as we still have width from the full backs.
One thing I would say if you see the way Welbeck and Rooney link up for the first goal, I think you can see why we have tried playing him off the left. He's the further player forward, but his position is not central, it's starting from the left, and the flick and interaction with Rooney gets him in behind the back four and leads to the goal.
There is no reason if Danny was playing off the left, Rooney was deep with RVP or some other combination, that he could not do that from there, if we were setting up for the width to mainly be given by the full backs and it's similar to the way Kagawa plays from the left.
For now, and with RVP out, I'd continue playing him centrally as it is unquestionably his best position but I have always be of the view that Danny could be used from out wide(he played there regularly for the academy) and that it is not a defensive move due to his work rate. Danny's technical ability, touch and link up play are top quality and getting him linking up with Rooney, Januzaj, RVP, Nani, Kagawa etc could lead us to create chances centrally with that type of play as long as we still have width from the full backs.
TBF its when we use him wide left that he tends to be more defensive for some reason
Well, if he plays wide left, he is going have less freedom as his responsibility will be to track the full back who will attack more regularly when we don't have possession than playing centrally. I still don't see why playing him or Kagawa from out wide with Rooney and RVP can't work if the central midfield is solid enough and the preparation and tactics are right. It might not be our best starting eleven or formation but it's something that really has not clicked at all and for me it should be able to. Welbeck's got the abilities and the familiarity with the position and it's something plenty of other British and continental team have made work.
I agree. It's just one of then strange things, for for England he is consistently ace in the role for example. On the right flank he has always tended to be more attack minded for us. The only game I can remember him in recent times really being a pure attacking threat on the left all game for us was that FA cup game vs Everton way back when and perhaps even the Swansea match at the beginning of this season IIRC.
I still suspect though that Welbeck/Kagawa not quite clicking on the left consistently has been down to our imbalance in center midfield.
6 goals in 9 starts, and a few of those have been on the left wing. Yes, he missed a couple of chances after a month out injured but he seems to have rediscovered his form in front of goal after a poor return last year.
Hopefully he continues to prove the short sighted fans wrong.
Hopefully he continues to prove the short sighted fans wrong.
Yesterday was his first goal at Old Trafford since Stoke 427 days ago!
I didn't keep track of this thread to closely but at the point when I defended him, there were all but negative opinions.
Not just Danny. All of our wide players seem to double up as full backs. Some do it better that others though.
It was never a minority, its a majority of people who hate him one week, and love him another.
Nah, I think the majority of fairly rational United supporters like Welbeck. You'll get the odd internet warrior that spews shite about him, but I'd like to think he's generally well appreciated. He gets lots of praise on here.
I reckon nearly 95% of United supporters want Welbeck to succeed and become a great player for United. Most of those 95% have wanted and agreed, I believe, that he needed to add scoring goals to his repertoire (regardless of often being played on the wing). A few goals in a few games doesnt really change this, but it's certainly encouraging and I really hope it continues....but I personally remain unconvinced and would love...sincerely...to be proved wrong.
Funny what a bit of actually playing in your natural position can do.
The link-up between him and Rooney has always been very good. Rooney's only "problem" is that he can be slow to release the ball to Welbeck. Great partnership though.
I think Hernandez will end up leaving soon unless Rooney/RVP end up leaving as Welbeck is edging ahead of him in the picking order.
It's clear to everyone that Welbeck should be playing as a striker if he's on the pitch as it's how to get the best out of him and it's the only way he will end up improving his finishing by getting more chances. I think if you want to be improving your style of football then Welbeck is someone who should be in the line-up, it's just unfortunate that RVP/Rooney are also forwards.
It's clear to everyone that Welbeck should be playing as a striker if he's on the pitch as it's how to get the best out of him and it's the only way he will end up improving his finishing by getting more chances. I think if you want to be improving your style of football then Welbeck is someone who should be in the line-up, it's just unfortunate that RVP/Rooney are also forwards.
Often it's the minority that's the loudest. Unfortunately.
Or what's more likely is that the pessimists are out in force when he does poorly and the Welbeck fans are out when he's doing well.
There's no one that's saying sell him one week and loving him the next.
Happy to see him on the scoresheet again, excellent pace and movement.
My thing is on the left for us he over does it and neglect's his attacking some what. When you watch him play there for England he gives the opposing fullback hell in tandem with his own fullback in the opposition half, consistently.
good news. welbeck to start upfront then. hernandez is an option from the bench.
To be fair he's not looked bad has he, up front. Still think he could do with being a bit more decisive. I'd take him on a paintball weekend with someone dressed as Jimmy Savile, to bring out his killer instinct. He seems a bit..."nice". I want to see him snarling and sticking one to a few defenders
That's a relief.
Would love him to score again against Hull. If he did that, then high on confidence, you would hope to expect him to score v Norwich, could be a very good run for him.
Great news. I think it's clear Moyes rates him highly. Like us all, we just want to see him hitting the back of the net, because the rest of the game is there.
RvP's injury could be a blessing in disguise, it's clear Welbeck just wasn't suited to the wings enough and I'm glad we're using him where he's supposed to be used. I think him and Rooney is a great partnership waiting to happen.
I don't know if it's waiting to happen. It already exists. It was a little rusty since they hadn't played together in a while but when there was no RVP they were great together and recently we've seen them link beautifully.
The understanding is clearly there, I like the way Januzaj got involved with the play at the weekend as well, I really want to see Nani start on the right and see what those 4 can do up top but Ashley Young has a couple of goals behind him and probably deserves a start against Hull. It would be an exciting front 4 though.
I disagree. He lacks often composure when he's in the final third of the pitch, not just the moment before he pulls the trigger. He's been okay for a couple of games, but that doesn't change the fact that he's been average for 18+ months and only scored a handful of goals in that period. He works hard, I'll give him that. But to claim he provides everything except for goals is ridiculous.
Kag said the rest of the game is fine; your reply only looks at composure without considering other features.
Good game, nice change to see him running powerfully rather than doing his bambi impression. Good link up play and would've had a goal you'd suspect if Hernandez's link up play was better.
Hope his knee is OK, he seemed to jar it badly there.
I thought his hold up play and general link up was excellent today.
Another very solid performance from Welbz who is now onto a nice run of form.
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