I searched back through the thread, it was some clown called FergusSon or something like that. He was an arrogant twat and was beyond adamant he would score 20+, using some bollox logic.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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I searched back through the thread, it was some clown called FergusSon or something like that. He was an arrogant twat and was beyond adamant he would score 20+, using some bollox logic.
Well, I did say to you all, way back when. I said it, got derided, got a tagline about it. He isn't good enough.
Not a winger. Not much of a striker either tbh.
I'm a big fan & like most, I really want him to make it here but he's not united quality ATM. A few others as well.
Every timeI've been saying this for a while too though! Everyone used to always bang on about his games against Swansea or Madrid to show his potential... and they kept on banging about those games because there were no other examples to use. He's just not that good at anything really. He doesn't even know how to use his physique and pace properly.
Who other than saf would give this lad time on the pitch???
He's so far off the Utd mark it's not even funny.
Hodgson selecting him for England in the past is essentially what Moyes is doing now.... It's embarrassing!!
He's so far off the Utd mark it's not even funny.
Hodgson selecting him for England in the past is essentially what Moyes is doing now.... It's embarrassing!!
Better than Balotelli, mate.
Apart from the fact that he actually plays well for England... very well in fact.
It's clearly a confidence thing, and the lad is totally bereft of it at the moment.
Not fit or sharp at the moment, it's his selection, at home, which was baffling.
I blame Ferguson. He killed Welbeck's development. After a stellar 2011/2012 season partnering Rooney, Ferguson signed two players for the two advanced central positions, and only allowed Welbeck to be played out of position, and often in a negative, defensive capacity. Moyes has continued the trend of misusing this talented homegrown player. It's no wonder the player is completely bereft of confidence.
You blame Sir Alex for signing better players to improve the team? Welbeck was never, and will never reach the heights of Van Persie, or a world class striker. He was never a good finisher while playing for United's first team, I mean he scored 12 goals that season playing as a starting striker for Manchester United. Hardly promising. He was a lot better then, but he was never good enough to be the main striker for United long term, so we needed to strengthen. Him being homegrown should have nothing to do with it. You're either good enough or you aren't, and Welbeck wasn't good enough to be first choice then just like he isn't anywhere close to being now.
Couldn't finish his dinner.
It's harsh, but he needs to take a large piece of the blame today. All he has to do is complete a routine header, and we probably win. That's not good enough for Manchester United.
Maybe this can be a final wake up call, but he needs dropping til he sorts it out.
Even his pace was absent today, got beaten to a promising ball by Phil Jagielka!
Maybe this can be a final wake up call, but he needs dropping til he sorts it out.
Even his pace was absent today, got beaten to a promising ball by Phil Jagielka!
He reminds me of Dembele when Dembele was considered a winger/striker.
In terms of offensive play he offers nothing. He has redeeming qualities but eventually as a Man Utd forward you have to affect play in the final 3rd and he doesn't do it as a striker or a winger.
He's 23 now and this is his 4th season in the PL if you include the Sunderland loan spell, at some point he needs to step up. You can get away with being "young and learning" only for so long.
He's 23 now and this is his 4th season in the PL if you include the Sunderland loan spell, at some point he needs to step up. You can get away with being "young and learning" only for so long.
What nonsense. That'd be like when we tried to convert Alan Smith into the new Roy Keane because he could run around and tackle a bit.
Not match fit to sharp enough, blame the manager for starting him and not realising it during it the game.
Agreed. He'll get you a couple 'lucky' goals every year and entertain with some fancy footwork every now and then, but he really isn't good enough to start for us.
I still can't believe his performance last night, jogging around the pitch, feck me. So angry with him right now.
That rooney cushion header was just asking to be smashed in, 5 yards from goal too. But the guy just lacks the instincts. Needless tough and the chance was gone. I like him as a player but he needs to improve a lot in the final third. A striker cannot not score goals at all.
Judging a player's future after coming back from an injury. Only on the Caf.
Using that excuse to justified players who aren't good enough to play for United getting gametime over far more talented players.
5 goals in 49 games. Justify that.
It's no justification for anything and you bringing up his goals argument has nothing to do with what I said, not to forget that he has played mostly as a left "winger" for the last season-and-a-half. Why start a player who is clearly not at the right fitness levels? I said the same against Tottenham. He was shocking. I've never seen him so fragile, usually he collects the ball with confidence, but he looked weak in comparison to the start of the season. But anyone judging his future based on this performance should reconsider their logic. He's not going to make it at United as a left winger. And he's not going to make it here if he doesn't get more time as a centre-forward. It's that simple.
And he's not going to get many chances up front if he does not improve upon his finishing.
It is that simple you're right, except he's never going to get time as a centre forward here because he is nowhere near a good enough finisher and if you can't see that then I'm not sure what to say. That's why he finds himself on the wing, purely shoehorned into the team because apparently he runs around a lot and "tracks back" and "does a job". Sorry but I want a Manchester United forward doing more than that. It'll be best for both parties to move him on in January or the summer.
I sooo don't want to see this thread right now.. Still having flashbacks of that header.. 
He's not good enough. Get rid. He should join the likes of Frasier Campbell at smaller clubs. Sunderland was his level.
Sir Alex, Moyes and Hodgson all seem to highly rate him, I must be missing something?
I never said he was a good finisher. Welbeck's finishing is inconsistent, he's missed around four simple chances to score this season. Him being on the left wing is due to us having a superior finisher in Van Persie. He doesn't do much on the left, we don't even get a Kagawa-esque interior performance, which isn't even that great. However, I'm not going to judge his future as a striker when he doesn't get enough playing time there. It doesn't have to be consecutive games. My issue with this is Moyes' game-plan including Welbeck at the moment. Our formation shouldn't include Welbeck because he's not ready/sharp yet and we have better players in Januzaj and Nani. I'd rather he used him as a sub to get him back to optimum levels (see positive impact against Cardiff), but that's just my opinion.
Hasn't regained his sharpness and doesn't look match fit after his injury. Don't write him off. Using him twice in three days is probably a bit much.
You have won. They do that often on here, laugh arrogantly at superiors who have more football knowledge and brainpower, then when the 'resident muppet's opinion turns out to be correct.after all you will hear nothing from them.
Nothing posters, that tagline is now showing you off, reminding the Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime who discredited you and gave you that tagline what an exhilarating tornado you are.
Not that I have anything against Danny but this is a bit of a lazy argument. For example, Hodgson and Mancini rated Barry yet Pelligrini got rid. On the other side of the spectrum, Carrick is highly rated here but doesn't seem to be rated by the NT managers.
It's not an argument to be fair, I genuinely think I must be missing something.
I've always classed him as a forward, yet he has played many times for us on the wing, why? He doesn't seem to offer much. Against Spurs he was awful out there yet he was picked again last night while Nani and Januzaj sat on the bench. I have no idea why all three managers pick him ahead of more talented players (in my eyes) As I said, I must be missing something.
He's very talented but not mentally strong enough.
What's his best position though? Is that part of the problem, that he doesn't actually have one?
He won't get in the team ahead of a Rooney or RVP, So are we playing him for the sake of playing him?
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