Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Shane88 said:
C'mon lads, give the boy a chance. He does....stuff out on the wing and occasionally out-paces someone.

Quality player.
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:lol: Don't forget his world-class control and decision making.

He needs another loan out, and play him striker every game and get some goals. He can't fecking shoot at the moment, and he seems to forget where his feet are (Hint:they're attached to your legs).
 
There is a good player in there somewhere. I've been a huge fan of his for ages but as I said in the match day thread, it's getting harder and harder to defend him. It's the simple things that seem impossible for him
 
I agree, I've always had a soft spot for a player who comes through the system and pays his dues but he's putting in useless display after useless display. His biggest contribution since a few goals at the start of the season was winning a pen that could've been easily avoided by Lloris. Says it all.
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
I agree, I've always had a soft spot for a player who comes through the system and pays his dues but he's putting in useless display after useless display. His biggest contribution since a few goals at the start of the season was winning a pen that could've been easily avoided by Lloris. Says it all.
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feck him for being injured.
 
Red Shorts said:
:lol: Don't forget his world-class control and decision making.

He needs another loan out, and play him striker every game and get some goals. He can't fecking shoot at the moment, and he seems to forget where his feet are (Hint:they're attached to your legs).
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This. He needs a loan to a lower placed prem team where he can start consistently as a striker, build up some confidence, become more decisive and know what to do when he gets the ball. You see players like Nani come on, and they know what they're going to do when they get the ball, they attack with a purpose. Welbeck just always looks lost.
 
bosnian_red said:
This. He needs a loan to a lower placed prem team where he can start consistently as a striker, build up some confidence, become more decisive and know what to do when he gets the ball. You see players like Nani come on, and they know what they're going to do when they get the ball, they attack with a purpose. Welbeck just always looks lost.
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Don't say that in the Nani thread. You'll be lynched by some folks
 
Where's the poster I argued with during the summer that was arrogantly adamant that Welbeck would definitely score 20+ goals this season.

I have been constructively critical of Welbeck and have been more than willing to give him a chance but this season, bar two or three matches, he has been well below what is expected of him and offers so little in an attacking sense.
 
How about some constructive criticism, why isn't he replicating his England form for United presently? He is one of the national team's most consistent performers over a two year period, 8 goals in 20 appearances and that a figure which should climb steadily as time goes on.

Now admittedly he is not long back from injury and to a degree this has to be taken into account.

I think it would be utterly stupid for people to be writing him off, have supporters erased from their minds both of the matches against Real Madrid last season?
 
Let's not beat about the bush here; Danny has been gash for United for a prolonged period of time. I, like us all, hope that's it's just a rough patch of form he's going through and that he'll come good, but feck me, can we continue to pick him when he's blatantly not worthy of his position at present?
 
Come on guys. The one thing a striker should be able to do is shoot. Thats indefensible. What is he learning in training? I think one thing that is holding us back is our patience with underperforming players. Would Welbeck have lasted for so long at a club like Chelsea or Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona? Arsenal is the only club that would have kept him and they haven't won shit for 8 years. He is a midtable to lower half player.
 
In all honesty the pecking order for strikers reads like this:

1.Rooney
2. RvP


3. Hernandez


4.Welbeck.

In Layman's terms, that basically means I don't have any confidence in him as a striker, as he provides as much goal threat as Young does. He does not merit to be ahead of Hernandez right now, and being picked over him is not giving him a kick up the arse to play better.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
How about some constructive criticism, why isn't he replicating his England form for United presently? He is one of the national team's most consistent performers over a two year period, 8 goals in 20 appearances and that a figure which should climb steadily as time goes on.

Now admittedly he is not long back from injury and to a degree this has to be taken into account.

I think it would be utterly stupid for people to be writing him off, have supporters erased from their minds both of the matches against Real Madrid last season?
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This and the swansea game are basically the only 3 great games he's had in the last 2 years. Almost in every other game that I can remember he was bad.
 
He along with Valencia is the worst of our "attackers" at the moment because they can't really attack. I cringe everytime I see their names on the teamsheet, and its even worse when they are both playing at once. He shouldn't even be on the bench on current form, let alone starting.
 
I'm beginning to think that he may be better in CM. Skillfull and beats a man easily..now just give it to someone who can do some real damage in front of goal
 
that moment when he scored on his debut against stoke, i thought he was going to be a monster of a player. even some appearances after that he was playing as a confident young striker and seems to have that kind of arrogance and believe in his own ability.

now he is just a player who can't even shoot, let alone score goals. his work rate is poor, his touches is letting him down badly, and even his movement were just abysmal. how on earth he is starting for united with this kind of form in beyond my understanding.
 
Struggling really badly, should have been taken off long before he actually did. That decision doesn't lie with him though
 
Yes, the Madrid game. He scored from a header fair enough. And did a man marking job on Alonso, which was deemed as a brilliant performance.

I want our attacking players to offer a threat rather than being known to run along.
 
I think his United days should be coming to an end. Fails to fill me with confidence and what's worse is we have superior options on the bench.
 
MoneyMay said:
Real Madrid...
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Did you miss the 'this'? I was responding to the 2 madrid games, and the swansea game. That's about it. He has a few decent games here and there, but this season he's been useless whenever he's played (apart from Swansea).
 
Bojan11 said:
Yes, the Madrid game. He scored from a header fair enough. And did a man marking job on Alonso, which was deemed as a brilliant performance.

I want our attacking players to offer a threat rather than being known to run along.
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exactly, sometimes I feel as if I have different standards of our team than most other fans. Refreshing to see not!
 
He today was basically the version of Cleverley in attack.

An overhyped local player who did absolutely feck all for 80 minutes but we aren't supposed to criticize him because he hasn't cost us anything. Or something like that.

The third season in the main team and I think that he has regressed in quite a few things from the first season.
 
bosnian_red said:
Did you miss the 'this'? I was responding to the 2 madrid games, and the swansea game. That's about it. He has a few decent games here and there, but this season he's been useless whenever he's played (apart from Swansea).
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Yeah, I did miss the Real Madrid game, my fault. The thing is, he's playing in a position that doesn't suit his game. He started the season off well, but the last two games are down to poor management. I said it after the Tottenham game... He's not ready physically to start games, he was really struggling today.
 
Bojan11 said:
Yes, the Madrid game. He scored from a header fair enough. And did a man marking job on Alonso, which was deemed as a brilliant performance.

I want our attacking players to offer a threat rather than being known to run along.
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This. I got so annoyed when everyone was praising him to the roof because he didn't stop running: Isn't that what most of them are supposed to do? He hasn't been a "striker" for 2 seasons now, but someone like Phil Jones in CM who's supposed to run around aimlessly. We really don't need that.
 
Revan said:
He today was basically the version of Cleverley in attack.

An overhyped local player who did absolutely feck all for 80 minutes but we aren't supposed to criticize him because he hasn't cost us anything. Or something like that.

The third season in the main team and I think that he has regressed in quite a few things from the first season.
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Well that isn't true judging by this thread and the matchday one.

I hate to say it but it does look like he and Cleverley have regressed. It isn't helping that nearly the entire team is playing awful at the moment either but at this moment it doesn't look good.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Where's the poster I argued with during the summer that was arrogantly adamant that Welbeck would definitely score 20+ goals this season.
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Hectic predicted that he'll score 15-20 goals this season. The second worst prediction of the year after ciderman's prediction that Young will get 30+ goal/assists.
 
He's talentend and does alot of good things; until he gets a sight of goal then it all goes downhill for him. Maybe the reason why Sir Alex often played him out wide instead of up front, is because we know that he'll contribute to attacks and defend well to boot, but will usually produce feck all when it comes to goal scoring.

Good player and it's foolish to suggest offloading him, but we really need to to have a rethink about his role for us. I see him as our new Ji Sung Park, a big game player who is capable of doing a job when required. As long as that job isn't scoring goals!
 
Revan said:
Hectic predicted that he'll score 15-20 goals this season. The second worst prediction of the year after ciderman's prediction that Young will get 30+ goal/assists.
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Ciderman also predicted we would see loads of Zaha this season. The man produces extremely shit predictions.
 
Ole240599 said:
Just not good enough, sell for $15m and move on
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Jesus, chill with that for a moment. I agree that he's far from being a good striker but's he's useful on the flanks. He's also homegrown. You don't toss that out the window.
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
How about some constructive criticism, why isn't he replicating his England form for United presently? He is one of the national team's most consistent performers over a two year period, 8 goals in 20 appearances and that a figure which should climb steadily as time goes on.

Now admittedly he is not long back from injury and to a degree this has to be taken into account.

I think it would be utterly stupid for people to be writing him off, have supporters erased from their minds both of the matches against Real Madrid last season?
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He need's to be started less. Playing him up front was really stupid. He's not a good striker. You can't translate from national to club football like that. Peter Crouch has 22 goals in 42 games. Messi and Ronaldo don't have goals per game ratio that's bigger than 1. A friendly game is also a game without pressure. Also two of those Welbeck goals were against San Marino. They barely count as goals.

He's not being used correctly. He's a limited player at the moment. The manager doesn't see him that way. That's because Welbeck's football talent seem like he isn't a limited player. He's not a bad footballer. He's also very quick. But it doesn't translate properly for him. He's not close to as good or effective as Nani on the wing. He's far from Rooney and RvP as an overall striker and not close at being as good as Hernandez at scoring goals.

I don't think he should be blamed at all for this game. He was poor yes. He wasn't good against Tottenham either. The manager is to blame for playing him/not subbing him.
 
Sorry Danny, but that was awful. I don't think I've ever seen a striker who looks like he doesn't actually want to even attempt to score. His off the ball movement was dreadful, any header he went for he did so half heartedly, and anytime he had the ball he did nothing with it.

I thought he was so bad, I'd rank it as one of, if not the worst performance by a United player this season.
 
I've always thought the problem him and Clev both have is that they're both quiet players. Both neat on the ball, both sensible players but they need others to be playing well to look good. Individually they won't force the issue. I think Welbeck has a lot more talent and could become a really good player but right now he's just not doing enough, he's too passive to take the initiative and get in to a dangerous situation and when he is he's not aggressive enough. But then he might not be fully fit either and definitely Moyes should take a lot of the stick as he's keeping him in or played him in the past over others and it's hard to see why on current form.
 
Bojan11 said:
Yes, the Madrid game. He scored from a header fair enough. And did a man marking job on Alonso, which was deemed as a brilliant performance.

I want our attacking players to offer a threat rather than being known to run along.
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Do we now denigrate the performances of our players, despite the manager having given them a specific task which they perform to an admirable standard?

Nobody else was scoring a lowly header against Madrid that night.
 
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