Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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It's tough for Danny as he's a striker not a winger or inside forward, he mostly just offers defensive protection for Evra in that role, but it's hard for him to get a game as a striker for us at the moment.
 
Can't see him starting but it looks like he will be in the squad for the City match. As much as I rate him, I can't see him as a player who can come off the bench against City and have too much of an impact though. So I expect to see him back on the pitch against Liverpool.
 
I reckon him and Rafa will start. Moyes was very guarded with his injury updates in his press conference and I think he might do a SAF and spring a surprise. In the same fixture last season we all thought Valencia and Cleverley were out and they both started.
 
My biggest letdown today. Just expect so much more from him.
 
He is not good enough for me if we have the ambition to be the best team in the PL. Soon to be 23 and I can't see him getting much better than he is now.
 
I didn't think he was awful, but yeah. Him, Young & Valencia aren't top class, where as City's front line was.



Although I am waiting for you guys to tear apart the Welbeck naysayers like you used to do with me all the fecking time.
 
A-bit slow at times with his decision making today. Overall, I wouldn't really pick him out as an overly poor performer as there were plenty worse.
 
Think he can accused of looking to be too clever/nice at times, sometimes if you get half a chance you just need to have a punt and hope.
 
How can anyone blame him after such a display from our more experienced players? We defended like pussies, he was nowhere near the ball, and had no one except rooney to pass it to him anyway, and yet people come here and blame him. Plus he wasn't probably 100% fit to start the game in first place. But yeah, let's blame Welbeck, how come he didn't dribble their whole defence and scored 3 goals.
 
Amar__ said:
How can anyone blame him after such a display from our more experienced players? We defended like pussies, he was nowhere near the ball, and had no one except rooney to pass it to him anyway, and yet people come here and blame him. Plus he wasn't probably 100% fit to start the game in first place. But yeah, let's blame Welbeck, how come he didn't dribble their whole defence and scored 3 goals.
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Everyones blaming everyone. I'm seeing De Gea getting flack as well. It's normal after a loss like this.
 
Was pretty poor though not at fault obviously. He's not good enough to be first choice striker for united and I don't think he will ever be. Just lacks the composure for that. He was pretty invisible today for the most part though. Too easily muscled off the ball and no hold up play at all. Plenty of times where you would think that van Persie would have held on to the ball to relieve pressure and play someone in, he either just slipped and fell over or just got out muscled. He's a big guy so he really shouldn't be pushed off the ball so easily.
 
He slipped twice in the first 10 mins and didn't for the rest of the game, and I can only remember him getting outmuscled once.. by Yaya Toure., not exactly a small man

He was a lot better at holding the ball up today than RvP was at Anfield, which was a comparable fixture and performance, so it's a little weird to claim RvP would have done better at that job
 
Moyes fault to throw him out there like that. His end product still quite crappy. Chicharito was a better bet.

Maybe Wellbeck from the beginning instead of Young would be better for him.
 
Drainy said:
He slipped twice in the first 10 mins and didn't for the rest of the game, and I can only remember him getting outmuscled once.. by Yaya Toure., not exactly a small man

He was a lot better at holding the ball up today than RvP was at Anfield, which was a comparable fixture and performance, so it's a little weird to claim RvP would have done better at that job
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are you kidding right?
 
Drainy said:
He slipped twice in the first 10 mins and didn't for the rest of the game, and I can only remember him getting outmuscled once.. by Yaya Toure., not exactly a small man

He was a lot better at holding the ball up today than RvP was at Anfield, which was a comparable fixture and performance, so it's a little weird to claim RvP would have done better at that job
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Very good point, probably the gama against Chelsea could be counted too.
 
He would be great at Arsenal. He doesn't want to score goals enough and doesn't have killer instinct. Passing the ball back when he's virtually in the 6 yard box for example.
 
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You've got to be joking Drainy? RVP is one of the best around at holding the ball up and bringing others into play under pressure. See the game in the Bernabeu among many others.
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He never said he isn't, he just said he was poor against Lievrpool with holding the ball up, which is true.
 
Steven Seagull said:
You've got to be joking Drainy? RVP is one of the best around at holding the ball up and bringing others into play under pressure. See the game in the Bernabeu among many others.
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He has great moments of skill to keep hold of the ball, but so does Welbeck. Taking the best moments of one player and putting them into the difficult situation another player faced during a match and saying 'he would have done better there!' is a bit silly.

Looking at RvP's form in that role, in similar profile games this season he's struggled to get into the game, keep hold of the ball and find a teammate more than Welbeck did today, but obviously since he's RvP he'd likely have been more creative with his passing and more of a goal threat.
 
Drainy said:
He slipped twice in the first 10 mins and didn't for the rest of the game, and I can only remember him getting outmuscled once.. by Yaya Toure., not exactly a small man

He was a lot better at holding the ball up today than RvP was at Anfield, which was a comparable fixture and performance, so it's a little weird to claim RvP would have done better at that job
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That whole sentence is just wrong to be fair. The difference in quality between Van Persie and Welbeck is enormous, so obviously he would've done a better job. At Anfield Van persie was completely isolated, and he didn't even have the chance to hold the ball up. Today Welbeck was lost up front, easily muscled off the ball, and just basically gave it away every time he got it. He did virtually nothing all game.
 
bosnian_red said:
That whole sentence is just wrong to be fair. The difference in quality between Van Persie and Welbeck is enormous, so obviously he would've done a better job. At Anfield Van persie was completely isolated, and he didn't even have the chance to hold the ball up. Today Welbeck was lost up front, easily muscled off the ball, and just basically gave it away every time he got it. He did virtually nothing all game.
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you see only what you want to see
 
sajeev said:
you see only what you want to see
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Perhaps, but Van Persie is arguably the best striker in the world, and one of his best assets is his hold up play. He had a poor game at Anfield in that respect, but one game doesn't make it the norm when he had many other games where he's shown how good he is at that. When has Welbeck ever shown good hold up play as the leading striker?
 
bosnian_red said:
Perhaps, but Van Persie is arguably the best striker in the world, and one of his best assets is his hold up play. He had a poor game at Anfield in that respect, but one game doesn't make it the norm when he had many other games where he's shown how good he is at that. When has Welbeck ever shown good hold up play as the leading striker?
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Most of the 11/12 season to be fair.
 
Drainy said:
Oh ok then, RvP fails to hold the ball up then he's isolated, Welbeck is decent enough at holding the ball up and he's lost up front.
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I can't believe you're honestly comparing Welbeck's hold up play to RVP. Words really do fail me here...
Your location is quite apt if you seriously think Welbeck has comparable hold up play to Robin Van Persie. This was the average Welbeck performance when put up front as a striker, and you compare it to one of Van Persie's worst games.
 
Tough day for Danny. But he has bags of talent. If we keep faith with him he's going to be some player in a few years. As his decision making improves, so will his all round game, exponentially.
 
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