He lacks all the main traits to be a top striker.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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He lacks all the main traits to be a top striker.
It's be one way to emulate the Barcelona ethos, I guess.
Hang on a minute. Other than finishing, control, composure, heading, strength and touch, what attributes does...
...I see, point taken.
I called that this thread was going to get you a tagline, if you continue I think you're going get thread banned.
It's the first game of pre-season, in a disjointed team. Give the guy a fecking chance.
Lynk, you will eat your words eventually. You do known that, right?
I bloody hope so.
Opening game of the preseason tour and Lynk is already being an arsehole about Welbeck.
Really? I never knew you were of this opinion, why haven't you mentioned it before? Perhaps you should bump this thread every time Danny misses an oppurtunity so everyone is fully aware of your thoughts on Danny as a striker.
I'm continuing from last season. I read someone say in the match day thread, that Fergie sorted of screwed Welbeck up by playing him wide. I don't believe that at all. I just don't think Welbeck is a good enough finisher to play as a striker, and the one noticeable trait he has his touch and close control (which is still inconsistent mind) is better served out wide.
45 minutes into the the first pre-season game ffs 
45 minutes into the the first pre-season game ffs
No but it's criticism that hangs over the player. It's not as if we've not seen that control-feck up from him before. If someone displays the same traits during pre-season as they have for at least a year then commenting on it is fair game. The criticism isn't "he's fecked up in pre-season" but rather than elements of his game that were open for criticism last season are manifesting themselves now.
Showing off some skills...
This. I'm assessing him in his third year as a first team player.
What's really started me on this rant was someone saying Fergie screwed Welbeck up, by playing him out wide.
No, Welbeck needs to be more direct and assertive with his play. Playing him wide will help him in the long run, in my opinion.
He has the talent to develop into a top striker. We need to be patient with him
He has the talent to develop into a top striker. We need to be patient with him
at lynk. I noticed him in the match thread as well, it's bizarre.
Again, what's with the standard green smiley brigade? Is constructive criticism not allowed? I never knew we had RAWKite members.
saying 'what happened now, huh?' to people who say that Welbeck can be a top striker if we give him time, 45 minutes into the first game of preseason.. that's just so constructive and not reflective of the fact you have some kind of weird agenda against the player at all.
Yeah not sure why everyone's having a go at you. He looks lost as a striker, as he looked last season as well. He looks better on the wing but is very inconsistent there.
But the criticism isn't based on 45 minutes of a new striker.
If this was last summer and De Gea came and fluffed at a few crosses, criticism of his ability to handle crosses effectively wouldn't have come from the first 45 minutes of the pre-season friendly.
If this was last summer and De Gea came and fluffed at a few crosses, criticism of his ability to handle crosses effectively wouldn't have come from the first 45 minutes of the pre-season friendly.
I've backed de Gea to the hills, if you checked his thread I'm one of the top posters. de Gea was someone I've watched since he broke into Atlethi's team. And I've always knew he would be fantastic.
Welbeck is different, there's a portion on here who think striker is his position, when it clearly isn't. And if you criticize him, or his finishing, they'll either lash out, pull out the green smileys or defend him because "he's a local lad"
Oh everyone has players they're more critical of than others. Otherwise this wouldn't be a discussion forum but an admin-controlled YouTube comment section. Personally I know I'm criticial of Nani, Welbeck and the value of Giggs's contributions as the years go by. Others may be critical of De Gea, Rooney and Jones or Evans, Evra and Young or Valencia, Carrick and Cleverley.
We all have players are more critical of than others but you also see the pretend disbelief when they see someone else be critical about someone else they're not.
We all have players are more critical of than others but you also see the pretend disbelief when they see someone else be critical about someone else they're not.
He's going to get criticised with his current level of finishing (or any general play around the box) it's absolutely shocking and has been since he made his debut. I don't know what future he has if he goes through this campaign scoring 2 goals again.
So good at football, so shit at the aim of football.
No point sugar-coating it just because he's a United player, his finishing is fecking useless.
He had a tough job today. Unfortunately he made it look even harder. Needed to get his shots on target
Welbeck will be criticised for his shooting because of his lack of composure. He can finish a ball, but his composure is shocking and it is the main component of why he fails to take chances, such as the two chances he missed today. I do, however, disagree with your statement about him receiving criticism for his general play around the box. The reason why Welbeck starts is because he's very good with his feet. He has a good touch, good hold-up and link-up play, and presses the opposition well. It's not something I would criticise, and it's not something I've seen people criticise him for. Why do you think Fergie preferred Welbeck, a player who finds it hard to finish, to Hernández in 11/12? What summed up Welbeck's game today was the final clear-cut chance he missed (towards the end). He produced an impeccable touch and subsequently, his shot was awful. That is what sums up Welbeck.
Welbeck > Balotelli
He desperately needs a goal. That chance he missed when he took the ball down brilliantly sums him up for me, brilliant footballer but a shit finisher.
He'll miss
My concern is he's 23 this year. It'll be his fourth as a senior premier league first-team player and his third season as a full international.
I think this is about time we began to exert some expectation on his performance not just be happy if he gets through a 90 minutes standing up right. I don't want to get to next summer, him approaching 24, having scored 4 goals the previous season and still be told anyone who doesn't think he's the future is talking shite. As I suspect they will be this year.
One of those things where I think you just need something to click, in fairness it was tough today as they really got numbers back. Would say though that I think he and clev have a similar problem, they've got good touches but in the final third their touch seems to safe, never really setting them selves up for anything which is why I think they often end up having to turn back/sideways.
I think one day something will just click and he will go on a scoring run, it will be something simple too like them realising he puts his boots on the wrong feet because that would explain his finishing at times.
Moyes has quite rightly mentioned that Welbeck is a talented player but needs to add goals to his game. Today was typical "striker" Welbeck. He so often does everything right until that last bit! If he doesn't start improving on this area, I just don't think Moyes will be as patient. The fans won't either to be honest....not next season.
He barely played as a striker last season
It was the fecking Singha All Stars, and he had about 3-4 nailed on chances.
He played half his games there. Another myth.
He played two or three games as a lone striker. Why can't you use perspective when needed in such situations?
He played as a forward player a lot of the time. He may not have started all his games there on paper but he was hardly without his chances. Besides in the last two seasons hardly saw great turns. His best season so far in the league was scoring 9. Which while not terribly hardly indicates that last year belied the true talents of a gifted finisher.
Where did he said that he was? His finishing and composure is awful regardless where does he play.
Last season we were patient and we generally praised him for his general play and forgave his finishing. But I agree with others that if he doesn't show signs of improvements about scoring goals then serious questions should be asked. Regardless that he's local and didn't cost nothing, he needs to start scoring.
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