Reus has a great strike on him, he's a much cleaner shooter than Welbeck who scuffs or side foots a lot of his shots.
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He is a totally different type of player to Reus in that position. Welbeck is not really very good at using the ball effectively whilst moving at full pace with the ball. After he goes on a run and it comes to using the ball in a creative way he often falls over or loses possession. Reminiscent of a young Wayne Rooney as highlighted in Brwnds thread.
Reus is a player who can play as a real winger. Someone who is comfortable at picking passes/crosses etc whilst moving at full speed.
He'll Welbeck even fecks up simple counters attacks at pace.
I think you've mis-analysed that. He's excellent at dribbling at pace, and is one of few players in our team who can run straight at a man and beat him with skill and pace. The problem is in his head - when he has to make the decision running into the box, he loses his composure and that's when you get the stumbles or misplaced passes and shots. That's why you so often see his best and worst moments of the match right next to each other - he'll produce an excellent marauding run, but lose his head once he actually has to produce some end product.
Reus is a far better player and I don't think Welbeck will become a world class winger like Reus (as he has been for the last 12 months). Right now Welbeck is caught between being a winger and a striker, but If he is to become a starter for us, I think it's still as a striker despite his bad return this year.
I think you have mis-analysed my point. The easy part is ruining past players using your power and pace, the hard part is making and executing the intelligent decision at the end of it. Reus is a natural at this, like a real winger, one who cuts in, would be. Welbeck does not see to have the clarity of mind whilst moving at that kind of pace. He is even poor on counter attacks where time and space is more Abundant.
If he starts playing like Reus then I will eat my hat.
I think is is right, if Welbeck goes past a defender when playing out wide, it's not that often he goes down to the line to cross or og even deeper into the box to try a chip in or a 45 degree pass. It's seems he also turn back to play to the players closest to him instead of setting himself up to get a cross in. He plays a bit more like a striker even out wide and like to play to the back or a striker/midfielder that comes short.
I hope Danny gets a chance to play up front and to score against Chelsea. Rest Brave Sir Robin.
Ah, you're right, I did misunderstand you. In which case I agree, except for a slight qualification on that last point - he's capable of playing brilliantly in fast counter-attacks, as long as his contribution isn't as the player of the final ball or the man who actually shoots. It's the mental composure required to finish off moves, rather than a general lack of clarity, which holds him back.
There's an excellent example of that in this video. Our first goal (around 1:37, I think).
That's a situation which all too often comes to nothing, but he delays, times and executes it absolutely perfectly, making Nani's job so easy.
You obviously haven't watched enough of marco reus.
Just like many of the Dortmund players tbh
Reus is a far better player right now and I fail to see any comparisons really.
Im not comparing them, im saying could we mould Welbeck to perform a similar duty.
Apart from the finishing, I dont see anything else that Reus massively excels over Welbeck?
Apart from the finishing, I dont see anything else that Reus massively excels over Welbeck?
That alone makes a big difference between the two
Yes true, but then Welbeck can improve that aspect. Finishing is about composure and practise, something you can learn.
I do think he will end up being a good all round floating striker. Rather than a winger when/if he improves his composure and finishing though.
He has most other attributes to be one. His development in the next few years will be very interesting and he is potentially a bigger prospect than most give him credit for right now.
He has most other attributes to be one. His development in the next few years will be very interesting and he is potentially a bigger prospect than most give him credit for right now.
He'll be better than Reus.
Footballing awareness and composure
If we're talking about in the box then I'd agree Welbeck lacks composure, but this season he's shown to be one of the most composed footballers we possess when he gets on the ball. It's probably his awareness of the space around him that's impressed me the most this season.
Marco Reus has played over 40 games this season in his preferred position. Seems a bit pointless to be comparing him with someone who has played just 20 games, most of them out of position.
Anyway, you just need to look at Welbeck to see that he will be a late developer. He's only just stopped growing ffs. He's improved a lot in the last few seasons but I think the really significant improvement is still ahead of him. Which is why I find it really hard to understand that so many on here seem to think he will permanently lack certain qualities. Patience.
Anyway, you just need to look at Welbeck to see that he will be a late developer. He's only just stopped growing ffs. He's improved a lot in the last few seasons but I think the really significant improvement is still ahead of him. Which is why I find it really hard to understand that so many on here seem to think he will permanently lack certain qualities. Patience.
He's much better at holding the ball than Reus is, for instance. Reus dribbles impressively when he's bursting through at pace, but his actual close control is nothing special. Whereas Welbeck is incredibly difficult to dispossess.
Do you not agree Reus is quick, agile and skilful?
That's quite general mate.
Seen those Welbeck pictures from title celebration, him and Rio look superhuman. 
Apart from being strong, has decent pace and very nice technique, can go past player(s), find teammate with good pass, exchange multiple postions and of course, miss wonders infront of goal. But he'll learn in time since that kind of a talent for a forward is rare; big, strong and quick enough and finishing is something you can work on.
Said few times already, but would really like to see him in number 7, young local prospect from academy, has IMO great future ahead and willing to learn.
Both matches againt Real Madrid he was standout figure for me, they've had difficult times with his movements through the middle and that pressing at Alonso was joy to watch, he was main reason why Real centreback had to run play from the back instead of someone in the middle.
And given that his play becomes more rounded, even England national team has something to look forward to, not just United supporters.
Apart from being strong, has decent pace and very nice technique, can go past player(s), find teammate with good pass, exchange multiple postions and of course, miss wonders infront of goal. But he'll learn in time since that kind of a talent for a forward is rare; big, strong and quick enough and finishing is something you can work on.
Said few times already, but would really like to see him in number 7, young local prospect from academy, has IMO great future ahead and willing to learn.
Both matches againt Real Madrid he was standout figure for me, they've had difficult times with his movements through the middle and that pressing at Alonso was joy to watch, he was main reason why Real centreback had to run play from the back instead of someone in the middle.
And given that his play becomes more rounded, even England national team has something to look forward to, not just United supporters.
SAF on Welbeck:
There was not much of a chance he was going to get games this year with RvP and Rooney up top. I predicted that he would be used on the wings a lot this season and it has mostly been the case. I must admit I expected him to perform better on the wing then he has (maybe I rate him too highly). But anyway it's clear Fergie rates him very highly and gave him games on teh wing because he simply wanted to make sure Welbeck remained in the fold.
Nice from Fergie. Sends Danny off on his hols not feeling too insecure at the 25 strikers we're bound to be linked with over the summer....
There's plenty to love about Welbeck up top that we've got little chance of seeing this year. He might not have the composure in the box to score 20+ goals just yet but he's brilliant at bringing others into play.
We've seen all of that this year but 20 yards further from goal (e.g. here). Last summer Sir Alex said Welbeck needs to improve his goalscoring after he'd scored 9 league goals but at that point I don't think he expected Welbeck to get so little time up front. If he does have a full season up front and fails to get into double figures for league goals it'll be time to worry but at this point we should be happy with how he's progressed. At the very least this season he's improved his dribbling and defensive play and that'll make him become a more rounded striker. He was great at stretching defences with his pace in behind last season, soon enough he'll be just as comfortable running through teams from deep.
Imagine if he could adapt to centre mid?!
That touch, running and awareness....
That touch, running and awareness....
The last two gifs sums up his season for me.Players generally don't improve massively on their finishing ability. It's a lot to do with instinct. Welbeck has been told how since he was a little kid what's the proper way to finish a chance is but he's still not gotten it.
You'd need space to make best use of his pace, which would be at a premium in the middle.
Goal scoring is a bit of a problem for him but it's not a massive one. He's improved this season in other aspects. He was nominated for the young player of the year award this season but last season when he scored 9 times he wasn't. That's because he's been a much more of a handful this season for defenders and midfielders.
Hush, SAF is probably reading this and then goodbye to the signing of a midfielder in the next 5 years.
This season he's reminded me of the good years of Ji Sung Park. Not a first team regular by any means, but Sir Alex plays him in the big games with a specific task and he does them brilliantly and has been a standout performer in these games.
Ultimately I think this will be his role with United in the coming years. I think he could become a great striker, I just don't think he'll get the opportunity because of the strikers we currently have. Even Hernandez who improved his game drastically and shown more as a goalscorer than Welbeck has so far, hasn't got that many opportunities this season.
Ultimately I think this will be his role with United in the coming years. I think he could become a great striker, I just don't think he'll get the opportunity because of the strikers we currently have. Even Hernandez who improved his game drastically and shown more as a goalscorer than Welbeck has so far, hasn't got that many opportunities this season.
Yeah, it's amazing, nobody has mentioned that Welbeck has had a poor season in terms of goals!
All I ever seem to hear is people saying what a great goalscorer Welbeck is! People keep comparing him with Linekar, saying he has such natural composure in front of goal! The Black Gary Linekar, I hear them say!
Thank God this article clears it all up!
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