Needs to work very hard on it I guess. His decision making and composure go to pieces in the final third. Maybe he just needs to be told to just shoot with power whenever the opportunity arises rather than getting confused and tripping over his own feet trying to do something elaborate.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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Needs to work very hard on it I guess. His decision making and composure go to pieces in the final third. Maybe he just needs to be told to just shoot with power whenever the opportunity arises rather than getting confused and tripping over his own feet trying to do something elaborate.
He seemed to go for a chipped finish a lot last season and at least 5 goal attempts were cleared off the line by a defender rushing back.
Seems to have got rid of that from his game... but then again he has hardly played upfront this season so maybe that's why we haven't seen it.
While the goals aren't exactly flowing in for him, he can fill in out wide, or be told to perform a certain role tactically (i.e. vs Madrid) for now and still be an asset to the squad.
Seems to have got rid of that from his game... but then again he has hardly played upfront this season so maybe that's why we haven't seen it.
While the goals aren't exactly flowing in for him, he can fill in out wide, or be told to perform a certain role tactically (i.e. vs Madrid) for now and still be an asset to the squad.
Seems to have everything but the clinical goalscoring element.
Last year how many times did he miss a stack of chances, only to score the hardest chance!
I remember sat in the Arsenal end for the Emirates game, watching him spurn some chances, and then suddenly Arsenal equalised and it was 1-1, and looked like we'd blown in.
Then he suddenly pops up scoring a harder chance than the ones he'd just missed!
Last year how many times did he miss a stack of chances, only to score the hardest chance!
I remember sat in the Arsenal end for the Emirates game, watching him spurn some chances, and then suddenly Arsenal equalised and it was 1-1, and looked like we'd blown in.
Then he suddenly pops up scoring a harder chance than the ones he'd just missed!
Nice gif of the Welbeck chance against Real
Old, overplayed and massively disrespectful.
First time I've seen it, can't watch it enough times and completely light hearted. Now go and put a fresh tampon in.
I was speaking to my City supporting mate at work today. Despite being a blue, he's not a dick, and he has plenty of pre-Eastlands memories as well. He's a good lad.
Surprisingly, He's a big fan of Welbeck. Most opposing fans write him off as being headless or whatever, but he has alot of positives to take from him, arguably more than I do most of the time.
I think the obvious thing that can be drawn from Welbeck is he doesn't score many, nor does he pose a real threat infront of goal. Despite that, my mate reckons Welbeck is probably the player opposing fans fear playing against the most from our squad, because of what you get from him physically. His energy and commitment, how difficult he is to muscle off the ball. A real handful.
Then he went onto to say "He reminds me of Yaya Toure". I didn't quite know what to make of that, but it didn't sound completely ridiculous when he gave his reasons. We agreed that we don't think Welbeck is anywhere near as good at striking the ball as Yaya, but he went on about how Webeck has the same direct approach to get the ball from his own half up towards the final third by being able to run with the ball and simultaneously shield it. He will often triumph in physical battles, winning the ball very cleanly in dangerous situations, and you will often find him covering most of the pitch, in both attack and defence.
If Welbeck wasn't a United lad, he reckons he'd take Danny over RvP or Rooney. What do you make of that? Is he demented, or can you see his logic? for me, whilst I can't ever see us doing an Alan Smith with Danny Welbeck, the comparison of traits isn't really that bonkers. I'd keep RvP and Rooney over him, but I feel harsh saying so considering how young he is and how much time he's got left to improve.
Surprisingly, He's a big fan of Welbeck. Most opposing fans write him off as being headless or whatever, but he has alot of positives to take from him, arguably more than I do most of the time.
I think the obvious thing that can be drawn from Welbeck is he doesn't score many, nor does he pose a real threat infront of goal. Despite that, my mate reckons Welbeck is probably the player opposing fans fear playing against the most from our squad, because of what you get from him physically. His energy and commitment, how difficult he is to muscle off the ball. A real handful.
Then he went onto to say "He reminds me of Yaya Toure". I didn't quite know what to make of that, but it didn't sound completely ridiculous when he gave his reasons. We agreed that we don't think Welbeck is anywhere near as good at striking the ball as Yaya, but he went on about how Webeck has the same direct approach to get the ball from his own half up towards the final third by being able to run with the ball and simultaneously shield it. He will often triumph in physical battles, winning the ball very cleanly in dangerous situations, and you will often find him covering most of the pitch, in both attack and defence.
If Welbeck wasn't a United lad, he reckons he'd take Danny over RvP or Rooney. What do you make of that? Is he demented, or can you see his logic? for me, whilst I can't ever see us doing an Alan Smith with Danny Welbeck, the comparison of traits isn't really that bonkers. I'd keep RvP and Rooney over him, but I feel harsh saying so considering how young he is and how much time he's got left to improve.
Late April Fools joke? I love Welbeck, he's never going to be a 20-30 goal a season man but he can definitely get between 10-20 a season, he just needs to be more confident in front of goal. He scored some excellent goals last season but this year he's over thinking things. I'm confident he'll progress further.
He's demented. I like Welbeck a lot but he has a long way to go and this season he's been the striker who doesn't score.
And I very much doubt that any opponent fears him more than RvP. Or Rooney. It can't be easy for a defender to play against his pace but come on.
And I very much doubt that any opponent fears him more than RvP. Or Rooney. It can't be easy for a defender to play against his pace but come on.
I hope you told him Welbecks engine lasts a full 90mins! I think under Fergie anyway there will always be a place for him. Beyond that Id be still be very hopeful. Hes only 22, doing his growing up and learning on the toughest most unforgiving of platforms. A big game player as well I think. He brings a certain something we lack since Fletchers illness. He basically cares!
He's having a stinker of a season in terms of creating and finishing chances for himself. He was decent at it last season.
His build up play, and overall team contribution, has improved this season, for me.
Hopefully next season we see a combination of his two previous seasons.
His build up play, and overall team contribution, has improved this season, for me.
Hopefully next season we see a combination of his two previous seasons.
I daresay a lot of defenders hate playing against Welbeck because he just doesnt give them a moment to dwell on the ball. I've never seen a forward nick the ball back so much as him
id have him one of the first names on the team list
as long as the team scores its not important who gets them, but the goals will come for him individually. I just hope that the fans stay off his back because he's genuinely a top notch youngster
id have him one of the first names on the team list
as long as the team scores its not important who gets them, but the goals will come for him individually. I just hope that the fans stay off his back because he's genuinely a top notch youngster
That's certainly a huge reason why he is feared and players probably hate playing against him I reckon. Young Tevez and Rooney used to charge about like he did, winning the ball in the opposing final 3rd, and we haven't really had a player do that for some time, especially since Tevez left. Perhaps Park was employed to do it now and again, but not on a regular basis, and didn't really have the muscle to hold onto it once the ball was won.
I think the Yaya comparison is interesting, though slightly bewildering. Perhaps I was taken aback that I'd never heard an opposing fan say positive things about Danny, but if he's not going to be a composed and prolific goal scorer for us, given the traits he does possess, can you see him being employed in a deeper role in the coming years, or do you see his future as a centre forward?
I think the Yaya comparison basically only applies to his strength and ability to run with the ball, Welbeck will never be a center mid. He is good in a support striker role because of those two traits though, his passing itself isn't usually very creative but he always maintains possession and is providing an outlet for other players. He may not be the one scoring the goals but he usually plays a big part in the build up to the goals, which is good enough for now given the players we have.
They're both black too, Danny has better hair though.
Agreed. I'm a big fan of that Will Smith circa early 90's flat-top he's got going on. top barnet.
He's only just reached the age Hernandez was when he joined us. Definitely needs to add more goals to his game but his all round play for someone his age is superb. He's got power, control, can tackle well, pace like a gazelle, great link up play, excellent close control, etc...
At 22 years old all he needs to sort out is his composure in front of goal and to figure out how his own legs work.
At 22 years old all he needs to sort out is his composure in front of goal and to figure out how his own legs work.
Remember that goal he scored against Derby, he needs to do that more often.
Yep that was a beauty. It was that which originally gave me the impression he was a lot like Henry, but he's changed the way he plays since then it seems.
I wouldn't put it past him.
Incidentally, until RVN came here, we were know as a team who spread the goals without having a proper goalscorer we relied on. Hughes only managed 13, 14 and 15 goals in his most prolific PL seasons and Welbeck can definitely match that.
I'd expect him to start averaging 20+ by his mid twenties though.
All he's lacking atm is confidence in his movement around the box. Once he starts putting himself in the mixer rather than making dummy runs all the time, he'll start getting easier chances which he'll convert.
I think people see him as a bad finisher because he only ever gets chances in difficult situations where even the best strikers would struggle. If he could learn Hernandez's knack of being in the right place at the right time he'd be golden.
He needs to stop tricking himself.
Indeed, his work-rate has improved vastly, you don't lose that ability though.
He'd score a lot more if SAF stopped playing him on the wings. Then again it's part of his apprentiship.
He adds something to our attack that we miss, complete muscle, height and strength. Rooney and Van Persie hold the ball up well, but not to the extent Welbeck does. Danny is already one of the best in the Premier League at this. I think with Rooney, Van Persie and Hernandez in our squad scoring goals nearly every time they play, Welbeck in this current setup doesn't really need goals. You can bet that Uniteds' coaching staff will be doing plenty with Welbeck in the summer to add to his game though. I'm so pleased with how well he has turned out. At 22 he has the world at his feet.
He is a good player in his own right, but at this point in time doesn't offer the goals (even when played up top) that both RVP and Rooney would provide.
As such he is stuck on the wing and his goal scoring record is further exacerbated.
I like him though, very rounded player and likeable personality too. Same ad Hernandez. I hope they both don't leave the club under any circumstances, unless absolutely required to do so.
As such he is stuck on the wing and his goal scoring record is further exacerbated.
I like him though, very rounded player and likeable personality too. Same ad Hernandez. I hope they both don't leave the club under any circumstances, unless absolutely required to do so.
I initially read that as "that goal he scored in the Derby" which reminded me of the goal he scored at the Etihad in the Cup last season. Phwoar, that was a bollocking good finish.
I think that Van Persie is better at holding up the ball. He controls the ball, turns and distributes it effectively. Welbeck is more the type to control it and pass it back the way. Welbeck is our best attacker at bring the ball out from defence and the best attacker at harrying, though I perceive that to be different to holding the ball up.
Spot on. His effectiveness against Chelsea ended the moment he was pushed wide. He was a handful through the middle
He was so unlucky when he nicked the ball on the edge of our box, skinned 2 players and nearly went round the outside of ivanovic, but the ball got a little stuck behind and he got it first. He really is a running beast. If he could use that pace more effectively he could be unstoppable.
When he's utilising his pace, he often doesn't even look like he's running all that fast. His legs look like they are moving in slow motion, probably from the giant strides he's taking, then somehow he ends up 5 yards ahead of a chasing defender. Explosive pace. Nothing better than just seeing a ball knocked on and chased, and successfully claimed at the other end. Sod all that trickery.
Yep, I can still remember the roar of " go onnnnnnn" as he left them for dead. bit like how ronaldo used to streak away from people.
I'd just love to see him actually shoot when near/in the box. I don't care if they don't go in, if they hit row Z or if he slices em for a corner. Just the act of a striker getting used to the idea that when in those areas, shooting would be good.
I think if he just occasionally tried putting the ball towards the big net thingy, he'd be more likely to get the odd one in. At the moment it seems like he's in a competition to leave the ball as close as possible to the goal line while falling over.
I think if he just occasionally tried putting the ball towards the big net thingy, he'd be more likely to get the odd one in. At the moment it seems like he's in a competition to leave the ball as close as possible to the goal line while falling over.
Welbeck in central midfield would be quite an intriguing one actually. All his qualities are ones you'd associate with a central midfielder: close control, calm under pressure, good short passing, good engine, works hard... Whereas all his poor attributes you'd associate with a striker: basically doing anything within 30 yards of goal.
Personally I don't believe he'll ever be a good enough striker/winger to sustain a place at a club like United, simply because he doesn't score or assist enough (around 1 goal/assist every 4 games?), but he definitely does bring something different to the team.
I'm not of the opinion that he'll suddenly become composed enough for a club like United in front of goal, just like I am not of the opinion that Hernandez will ever become great at close control and interplay. Now that you've said it I'd actually like to see him next to Carrick, even if it's just a few games when the league is sown up.
Does he have any qualities that aren't suited to becoming a top central midfield?
In terms of goal scoring he really went a step back this season, as he's barely scored any. It's partly because of playing quite a bit on the wing, obviously, but overall I'd say Welbeck is a player who always looks like he's capable of doing huge things, only to be stopped or stop himself at the last moment. Not a whole lot of end product, not just in terms of himself scoring, which is disappointing looking at the step up he made last season. But hopefully it's a step back in order to take two forward, second season struggles and all that. He does have some magic in those feet.
I've actually forgotten the goal, but I seem to remember him doing a Usain Bolt celebration and getting into trouble for it.
The goal against Everton in the 4-4 was nice though, that one I do remember.
Wrong goal, you're thinking of a 25 yard screamer (this happened
) against Stoke which Scholesy the poster lambasted him for.EDIT:Wrong again, it was against Wolves in the League Cup.
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