It is when you have just 2 goals to show to your name in 32 appearances in the season.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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It is when you have just 2 goals to show to your name in 32 appearances in the season.
Give it a break. How many of these appearances did he play up top as a striker? For a majority of the games, he has been played out of position on the wing. You can't really expect him to score that much when he is playing out wide. Plus RVP has scored 20+ and Hernandez and Rooney have like 15 each. Also he does so much for the team with his intricate 1-2's and running all the pitch. He knows every opportunity he gets he has to make use of it and he has done a bloody good job of that and has earned his starts in big games of late.
So? How does playing out wide makes a difference when he does actually gets into scoring positions? Going on a bit of a tangent here, but Nani has hardly played this season, just 10 League apps. Yet he has more goals from out wide.
Oh, you said Berbatov was moved on "in a matter of weeks" of you making the comment which is why I thought you said it this Summer.
We'll be lucky if he's a top 10 striker in the world which would be an amazing achievement in itself, a top 10 player in the world seems ridiculous.
He's the best striker we've produced for quite some time, we should be happy with that. Not set unrealistic targets.
Rooney is also a lot more creative. Welbeck is tidy
Goals are extremely important with a striker and Welbeck has to improve this area quite a lot to be at the same level as a Rooney or a Van Persie. There are no guarantees he'll get there
I think we can be encouraged by his development as a footballer. His speed and link-up play is up there among the best for players in his age group, hopefully his finishing ability and composure can work their way up to those levels soon.
How many do our other wingers have?
And Nani is more of a talent right now what's your point? Are you expecting Welbeck to be a polished striker at the tender age of 22? Not every player excels at young ages like Rooney, It's the potential that excites me with Welbeck and when you have youngsters you need to look at the positives.
A hypothetical question.
What if Welbeck never adds the finishing to his repertoire then would you still be happy to see him being persevered with?
I would say yes.
What if Welbeck never adds the finishing to his repertoire then would you still be happy to see him being persevered with?
I would say yes.
For specific roles such as going on Alonso of course. It beats Park being given the detail
That's a good question because his awful finishing is doing my head in and I've lost all enthusiasm when he's in a position to score. But I would say yes, he should stay. I love what he adds to the side and we seem to play well with him in. I've noticed on a couple of occasions as well, especially last year, that when he's come on as a sub, although he didn't play particularly well, the team as a whole seemed to function better.
I managed to "Welbeck" playing 5-A-Side. Basically, I poked the ball past someone, and went sprinting off towards the goal. Unfortunately, I was moving too fast for my brain to realise what I was doing, and I only managed to crash into their keeper, having forgotten which leg I was supposed to be using to shoot.
I'm going to get "Welbecking" added to the dictionary.
I'm going to get "Welbecking" added to the dictionary.
It's unrealistic to assume that Welbeck isn't going to improve on this season in terms of finishing. Let's face it, what chance is there of him not eventually getting better, even remotely?
I have been one of Welbeck's harshest critics as of late, wondering whether he will show me something that befits the idea that he's got "it", but after seeing two tremendously consistent performances against Madrid, I'm convinced he can make that big leap.
I have been one of Welbeck's harshest critics as of late, wondering whether he will show me something that befits the idea that he's got "it", but after seeing two tremendously consistent performances against Madrid, I'm convinced he can make that big leap.
Nice gif of the Welbeck chance against Real
I shouldn't laugh but 
At the age of 22, Thierry Henry was playing his 5th senior season for Monaco. He scored 1 goal in 19 appearances.
The finishing will improve for sure. But I think his long-term position might be as a wide forward rather than an out and out striker.
That is very interesting. He's got the pace and has shown a few glimpses of the thierry trademark finish.
I honestly can't see him scoring 200+ for United. Especially getting a .."late" introduction to first team football.
But that is no to say he can make a very very healthy contribution to our history.
Why build yourself up like that? Just switch off and take a break from Welbeck. I bet when he does finally score you're going to say something like 'Oh finally..' instead of genuinely being happy for him.
Don't get the impatience personally.
Even Fergie himself said that he expected more goals. It will be addressed and worked on. Welbeck is not one to give up on.
At the age of 22, Francis Jeffers was playing his 5th senior season (3 for Everton, 2 for Arsenal) in the Premier League. He scored 7 goals in 27 appearances.
Lets hope Welbeck takes Henry's route from here!
Francis Jeffers... jeeze there are some no talents who have played in the prem
I think what SAF said was spot on about him being the best to do the double role. Often Rooney does a job on the oppositions chief creator, but it usually takes away from his attacking game to an extent, he never really manages to combine the both. Welbeck on the other hand is brilliant at it, he's a better tackler than nearly every other forward and he was springing off the back of Alonso as soon as the oppurtunity arose. It was actually a tactical master stroke from SAF.
I'm a fan of Welbeck, always thought he's done well for us, justified his place, justified SAF's praise and high expectations. He's scored some important goals and made us look incisive in attack. But I have to admit I was taken aback by his performance against Madrid. I didn't think he had that in him, a game of that magnitude. He's gone up in my already considerable estimation.
Welbeck's love for United and his drive are going to make him a big game player if he isn't already. The bigger the occasion the better Welbeck seems to get.
I'm really impressed by Welbeck's work rate it's just a shame he hasn't got more goals this season, I'd expect him to be getting 10+ goals a season at this stage in his career. It's frustrating because he has so many great qualities, if he could add finishing, we'd have a star on our hands.
I really hope he develops more like Henry than like Heskey.
I really hope he develops more like Henry than like Heskey.
Aside from being tall and black I don't really get the Heskey comparisons. Heskey never actually played the roles Welbeck has this season at club level.
Heskey for a start could never have produced or even attempted to produce the performances Welbeck did against Madrid in both legs.
Heskey for a start could never have produced or even attempted to produce the performances Welbeck did against Madrid in both legs.
I think by the age of 17 he'd already surpassed Heskey. Even if he doesn't get any better than he currently is then he's still comfortably better than him.
I only suggested Heskey on the basis that Heskey kind of looked good but never produced anything. Welbeck, looks great when he plays, his energy, his short passing etc it's just such a shame that he has struggled to add finishing to his game. I'm sure/hope it will come, he's an exciting player to watch.
Welbeck has the best pass completion of any forward in the Premier League.
Also, what the feck is all this Heskey shit? Just because he's black and English right? Come on RedCafe! You're better than that.
Also, what the feck is all this Heskey shit? Just because he's black and English right? Come on RedCafe! You're better than that.
what the heck is a defending striker?
Are people really debating letting Welbeck leave and that he is like Heskey?
Jesus, thank feck none of you have anything to do with our football club!
Jesus, thank feck none of you have anything to do with our football club!
This is really silly cuntobollox. I saw Welbeck play for 20 minutes in the youth cup when he was 16 - he was clearly a major talent. Very soon the goals will come in like April rain.
It's only a matter of time before Danny starts to hit the net more often. He's too good not to develop in that area. Especially when you consider the amount of quality goals he's already scored for club and a few for his country.
I agree..and good days for United and England. Imagine a Rooney Wellbeck partnership for club and country....
Don't have to imagine it. We've seen it. A few times throughout last season we saw Welbeck and Rooney play some great matches together.
His lack of composure in front of goal is exasperating. I personally don't get what is wrong with him.
I'm not worried about the finishing at this point, his all round game is good, he's a great athlete and seems to have a very good attitude. His first touch can be hilariously bad in crucial moments but that along with the goals will come when the composure becomes consistent.
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