Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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I've said for a couple of years by 2013/14 he will be a world top 10 player, still believe it.
 
Fiskey said:
I've said for a couple of years by 2013/14 he will be a world top 10 player, still believe it.
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So basically by the end of the next season, he is going to be one of 10 best players on the planet? I highly doubt that. Dont get me wrong. He is improving every day and will be a very good player for us but to just make that big of a jump in a year is very hard.
 
gza the genius said:
Called it. Though the ref did it more than Mourinho.

Welbeck needed to stay in the center after Nani's red. He had a fantastic game though, our best player over the two legs.
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Wasn't him on the place of Arbeloa? That gave Khedira a hell of a advantage to clear space for Modric.
 
He's really good. Love his technical ability to retain possession and dribble. He played without fear. He just needs to add an end product to his game and he'll be a top player in his position.
 
RDCR07 said:
So basically by the end of the next season, he is going to be one of 10 best players on the planet? I highly doubt that. Dont get me wrong. He is improving every day and will be a very good player for us but to just make that big of a jump in a year is very hard.
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Always difficult to say exactly, but my criteria would be that if he is seen as one of Manchester United's best players then he is definitely in contention. Like Rooney, RVP, Vidic would be now.
 
Not for a second did he look out of his depth in not one, but the two legs vs Madrid. He's going to be a special player for us for years to come. I absolutely love him in the team.
 
Thought he was one of our better players ,holds the ball up well and bring other players into the game ,just needs to work on his finishing.
 
Drifter said:
Thought he was one of our better players ,holds the ball up well and bring other players into the game, just needs to work on his finishing.
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That's basically the only thing holding him back at this point. He really should have scored when Vidics header came off the post, but he hit it directly at the keeper. Yes he was offside, but it looked like the officials had missed it.

His finishing is and has been for a while, his greatest weakness. You can't fault his other abilities though, very good player, just gets wobbly knees when inside the penalty area atm.
 
RedSky At Night said:
That's basically the only thing holding him back at this point. He really should have scored when Vidics header came off the post, but he hit it directly at the keeper. Yes he was offside, but it looked like the officials had missed it.

His finishing is and has been for a while, his greatest weakness. You can't fault his other abilities though, very good player, just gets wobbly knees when inside the penalty area atm.
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Yep, when he improves on his finishing, he'l be immense. he'l be tremendous in a season or 2.
 
RDCR07 said:
So basically by the end of the next season, he is going to be one of 10 best players on the planet? I highly doubt that. Dont get me wrong. He is improving every day and will be a very good player for us but to just make that big of a jump in a year is very hard.
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I think Fiskey is entitled to his opinion... as Welbeck is still improving and he has faith in him becoming one of the best. He did say he's still holding such belief because of the improvement he's witnessing.
 
He's superb. Got fantastic control and gets out of tight situations well, with pace like a beast too. Once he figures out how his legs work he'll be a star.
 
He's an excellent defending striker. He deserved a starting place for the way he negated Alonso alone.
 
He needs to score more goals, but every other part of his game is coming along very nicely indeed. Pace, control, strength, height, vision. Its all there.

He is so hesitant in front of goal though. Not a natural goalscorer IMO, and I don't see him becoming a 25-30 goal a season player. If he could finish as well as Hernandez then I'd say we had a future world-class player on our hands, but alas this is not the case. Hopefully time will prove me wrong about that.
 
kps88 said:
He's an excellent defending striker. He deserved a starting place for the way he negated Alonso alone.
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doing him a disservice there imo. he's not a defending striker, whatever that is. he has good control, holds up the ball well in tight spaces, loads of speed, good movement, passing. he has all the tools. the only thing that needs to come up quick is his finishing.
 
He's really surprising me, improving all of the time. I still think he needs to be a bit more ballsy. He has enough ability to beat a man but sometimes lacks the courage/confidence. If he added that bit of arrogance to his game I'm sure he'd take a lot more chances and in turn score more goals. At the start of the season, I never thought I would have him as 2nd striker for most games, it's a joy to see him creating attacks with other players with some rhythm and intent.. a nice step away from the infamous 'zombie passing' of the team of late.
 
Bilbo said:
He needs to score more goals, but every other part of his game is coming along very nicely indeed. Pace, control, strength, height, vision. Its all there.

He is so hesitant in front of goal though. Not a natural goalscorer IMO, and I don't see him becoming a 25-30 goal a season player. If he could finish as well as Hernandez then I'd say we had a future world-class player on our hands, but alas this is not the case. Hopefully time will prove me wrong about that.
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Said this a few times, but I disagree. I don't think Rooney is a natural finisher but because of his natural talent and the hard work he put in to improve his runs off the ball in terms of getting into a goal scoring position early, we can count on him to score 30 plus a season if we put him up top. I genuinely think the same will happen with Welbeck. Know i'm in the minority mind.
 
How retarded was it when Hodgson subbed him off for Caroll in the Euros vs Italy? He was doing what he did to Alonso last night to Pirlo during that game whilst he was on, when he came off Pirlo found all the room in the world.

Atleast now Hodgson realises how important he is, refusing Stuart Pearce permission to take him to the under 21 euros in the summer.

I think he will be as good as Rooney one day, if not better.
 
Ekeke said:
Cant believe you believe it
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Top 10/100/ballon dor etc lists are balls anyway, purely opinion and is generally effected by which team, league, games you watch most often. But if welbeck plays as he did against Madrid in both games but also adds goals regualrly then some people are going to put him in such lists it stands to reason.

But yes, obviously a long way to go yet.
 
Bloxy said:
Is Wellbeck more suited to the role that Yaya Toure is playing for citeh? I thought last night that he has similar qualities in that that he is can dribble, strong on the ball, good movement and links up play quite well. The odd goal and he does a fair bit of tackling too. he is especially good at keeping the ball in tight areas.

he seems more suited to midfield rather than striker.
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Interesting idea. But Its really hard to say if it would work or not. I personally don't see it working as well as leaving him further up the field. One of his key strengths is holding the ball up or pushing it forward without much support. Something that is very useful to have as it gives time for the rest of the team to get forward.

Plus if he fixes his finishing, he has all the other skills already to be a world class striker.
 
Bilbo said:
He needs to score more goals, but every other part of his game is coming along very nicely indeed. Pace, control, strength, height, vision. Its all there.

He is so hesitant in front of goal though. Not a natural goalscorer IMO, and I don't see him becoming a 25-30 goal a season player. If he could finish as well as Hernandez then I'd say we had a future world-class player on our hands, but alas this is not the case. Hopefully time will prove me wrong about that.
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No he doesn't.

He will always get the full backing of the staff and the club because he is born and raised through the academy. This will always be his home. It makes no difference whether the fans thinks he should score goals, whether he actually has the ability to consistently net.

It's the support of the club that matters. A player playing at his level of potential that has come through the academy from a young age will always matter more when he is in the side than what his output is.

Fergus' son said:
Atleast now Hodgson realises how important he is, refusing Stuart Pearce permission to take him to the under 21 euros in the summer.
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Imo that is wrong of Hodgeson. Danny should play as much football as he can to get the experience. I do not buy into this whole 'whatever age you should be playing for the highest level on the international stage' I think there is more room for development if he players at the Euro than if he has the summer to do whatever. (Not 100% sure if there are English int's quals or friendlies, if so and there are important games then I revoke the notion that he should play for the 21's. Only if there are only meaningless games.)

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ghaliboy said:
No he doesn't.

He will always get the full backing of the staff and the club because he is born and raised through the academy. This will always be his home. It makes no difference whether the fans thinks he should score goals, whether he actually has the ability to consistently net.

It's the support of the club that matters. A player playing at this level that has come through the academy from a young age will always matter more when he is in the side than what his output is.
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That's just silly. He has the support now because he is a promising player who does many other things well. If he still has this scoring production five years from now, it won't be "Welbeck has scored 2 goal in 32 appearances. I wish he scored more but he's from Manchester so he's golden".
 
Yeah, admittedly I worded that incorrectly when I re-read it.

I meant that a player at his level (the level of promise) is always going to be backed no matter what because he is from the academy. Say a player brought in at 23 for example Ashley Young (position for position, using a name and not the fact he's a winger etc) might be dropped, lose his place or be made to work overtime to get back into the team.

Players that are capable of holding down a first team spot at his age and that have come through the academy are gold. If he goes onto bigger and better things then it is a bonus.

I think it's a bit ridiculous for fans to be getting on his back. Sign of the football manager generation that is rising thinking splurging cash on a fotm signing is the right way to go rather than be patient and watch a player blossom.
 
I saw Welbeck make a cameo appearance when he was 16. He lacks finishing just now but that will change.
 
I love the lad, he's the epitome of what makes United such a special club. I understand the criticism he get's for not being a natural goal scorer but he offers so much more to the team.
 
I like his all round game, will be a big asset to United I believe, if only he could improve his finishing and composure inside the box, which is a big if, then we have something special here.
 
He's just so likable. Maybe cause he's a local lad and loves the club. Improving all the time and I hope he retires a United player.
 
Varun_Utd said:
doing him a disservice there imo. he's not a defending striker, whatever that is. he has good control, holds up the ball well in tight spaces, loads of speed, good movement, passing. he has all the tools. the only thing that needs to come up quick is his finishing.
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At the minute that's exactly what he is.
 
Every time someone spells his name wrong I die a little inside.

He's a brilliant young talent, and Pete is right - the finishing will come, it's not anything to be concerned over.
 
redevil2 said:
I think Fiskey is entitled to his opinion... as Welbeck is still improving and he has faith in him becoming one of the best. He did say he's still holding such belief because of the improvement he's witnessing.
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I never criticized his opinion. I just disagreed with it. Whats wrong with that?
 
pocco said:
Remember when a lot of people on here weren't keen on him. I told Lance Uppercut that he'd see off Berba and become a better player than Rooney. Not long now before he achieves the latter, the former he did within a matter of weeks of me saying it.
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"Not long"? He's got a very long way to go. He's not close to Rooney at the minute.

EDIT: Also, it was hardly visionary if you made that comment this Summer given the season Welbeck had last season.
 
#Carl said:
"Not long"? He's got a very long way to go. He's not close to Rooney at the minute.

EDIT: Also, it was hardly visionary if you made that comment this Summer given the season Welbeck had last season.
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Was before last season at least. It didn't go down well at the time, to put into perspective the view of Welbeck when I said it. Some did probably agree with me to be fair.

Welbecks hurdle is goals. If he can add them, which he will, then that gap between him and Rooney ain't as big as you think.
 
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