No...he wasn't particularly prolific....
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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No...he wasn't particularly prolific....
Didn't SAF compare him to Kanu when young ? Seems more apt right now.
Tough crowd....some would say impatient and spoilt.
I thought Danny Welbeck did an excellent job of stopping Danny Welbeck last night. He was the only defender on the pitch that was able to do so.
Just imagine how good he's going to be when he unlocks the ability to have full control of his limbs
Just imagine how good he's going to be when he unlocks the ability to have full control of his limbs
I thought Danny Welbeck did an excellent job of stopping Danny Welbeck last night. He was the only defender on the pitch that was able to do so.
Just imagine how good he's going to be when he unlocks the ability to have full control of his limbs
Danny Welbeck really could be unplayable if he brings his attributes together. With his pace, strength and technique, what a player. Sad he's so gangly and tall at the moment, he'll take longer than most to fill out properly.
Sorry! I thought it was obvious I was joking. Referring to Brosstan who initially said he should be loaned out. I've always been a fervent supporter of Welbeck as previous posts in this thread illustrate.
Anyone who states that Welbeck should be anywhere but at United after that Madrid performance needs their head checking. So what if he had an average game yesterday.
Sometimes clumsy, often good. Doesn't score unless absolutely necessary - Danny Welbeck.
I hope we could develop him into a winger or wing forward.
Did he miss some sitters or something? I can't remember any.
Is that not what we are doing?
Of his last 10 starts, he has played with 2 other Strikers 5 times.
He rarely ever leads the line for us, he drops deep and works had and attacks from wide. Ferguson uses him for his work rate and build up play, not for his goal threat although i'm sure he will develop that.
He had one particular Bambi on ice moment in a great position. It's quite amazing how he has such close control and technique anywhere across the pitch, except when he enters the penalty box. His problem is clearly mental and it's only practice and coaching that will solve this.
It's fair to say Walcott learned a few things about finishing from Henry. We need to try and coach that ice cold finishers mentality into him as well.
There is no one better than RVP to teach him that.
Wasn't a clear cut chance at all, I doubt if even someone like Rooney would finish that more often than not.
The problem is he made it look more difficult than it was by trying to do skill.
All he had to do was try and cut in and shoot, you never know if you get lucky with a deflection or the ball ending up in the bottom corner.
He tried to do a piece of skill and messed it up, and put it out for a goal kick.
He just needs to learn when to use skill and when to do the simple stuff, that will come with experience.
The main thing is his raw attributes are coming on leaps and bounds, his strength pace and stamina are through the roof right now. Will suit our counter attack style perfectly.
Never said it was a clear cut chance, but a great position, definitely. He has the ability to create space in moments like that, and get a shot off.
That's true.
My issue is even after his performance in the Madrid, people are so desperate to criticize him that they will point to an instance in which many talented strikers would not score.
He missed a very good chance in the opening minutes of the game. If he was a good finisher at youth level you'd be more confident, but I don't ever remember him scoring many.
The problem is that sooner or later Danny's poor finishing is going to cost us a vital game. Fergie doesn't quickly forget those moments.
The problem is that sooner or later Danny's poor finishing is going to cost us a vital game. Fergie doesn't quickly forget those moments.
No he didn't.
I don't think it's his finishing that needs work, so much as his movement and confidence. He's brilliant at finding gaps between the lines and dragging defenders out of position, but he's not as good at finding space in the box. I think it comes down to a lack of confidence or a fear of making a mistake when it counts the most. I reckon that accounts for most of his rushes of blood to the head, as well his reluctance to ask for the ball in truly dangerous areas of the pitch. I'd also like to see him make a few more tricky first time passes when it's obvious he can see them - you can almost see him check himself thinking "oh, shit... I can see that pass but best not try it in case I miss".
There is no lack of confidence with Danny now. He screwed up, big deal. Tricks don't come off every time and I'm glad he had the faith in himself to attempt it though it wasn't a hard thing to pull off.
He does all the hard things right, things that you can't teach people like keeping the ball under pressure and gliding past players with ease. His work rate is also top notch. We just need to have some patience as its quite clear he is going to be a fantastic player and one that our academy will be proud of for years to come. The composure and goals is just a matter of when than if.
He does all the hard things right, things that you can't teach people like keeping the ball under pressure and gliding past players with ease. His work rate is also top notch. We just need to have some patience as its quite clear he is going to be a fantastic player and one that our academy will be proud of for years to come. The composure and goals is just a matter of when than if.
I thought the chance in the first couple of minutes was a "sitter" and thought he had a couple more half chances that he squandered, I'd have to see the first again to ratify it though.
I totally agree with the second paragraph. The reason I said there is no way I'd start him against Real Madrid was for that very reason. It turned out he was great against them, but given his finishing this season it wouldn't be a stretch to say he wouldn't have scored that chance 80-90% of the time.
The reason I said loaning him out might be a good idea was to get his finishing up to scratch. He'd have had a good chance of getting 7-10 goals before the end of the season playing up front for a mid table team, whereas for us he'll do well to get 2-3 more. I agree that if he misses a key chance in a big game that costs us he'll be crucified. The fans and Fergie definitely won't forget, but worst of all Welbeck himself might not forget.
Think you're being a bit overly dramatic there. He's still very young and clearly still learning & improving his game, due to these factors, I'm pretty sure he'd be forgiven for mistakes, as many of our young players have been over the years.
As for this "Fergie definitely won't forget" business, I refer you to Andy Cole at Upton Park in 1995 for a off-the-top-of-my-head example.
Finally, I would back Welbeck to bury that header against Madrid 8 times out of 10, and considering the evidence currently points to him actually having scored it, I think the favour is in the 'scoring' column.
Of all managers, Fergie is one of those who definitely does 'forget' those sorts of misses/mistakes. Or not forget, per se, but he doesn't base decisions on individual games or instances. That would be knee-jerk, which is something that Fergie has never been.
Incoming mongfeast.
HURDUR WHY CN HE NOT FINIZ HE WOD BE DA PERFRCT STRIKA IF HE CUD FINISH
HURDUR WHY CN HE NOT FINIZ HE WOD BE DA PERFRCT STRIKA IF HE CUD FINISH
He fecking shed off MBia for our goal, typical Welbeck performance really.
Well it is true. It's not something that can be ignored for a long time. When chances come few and far between in some game, the striker has to put his chances away.
Nevertheless, brilliant player. His work outside the box right now is just incomparable.
Nevertheless, brilliant player. His work outside the box right now is just incomparable.
Sort out his finishing and he's a mega player, just fecking hit it Danny!
Excellent work for the second goal. Should've done better on a couple of his own chances though. Still, he did well enough and ended up playing a big part in a goal so you can't really complain.
The same thing gets said every week outside of the box he's fantastic but he must sort out his finishing it's terrible. If he can get on a roll and score 2-3 goals he will probably look alot better infront of goal.
I think he's completely without confidence when it comes to finishing or he isn't just focused enough.That chance Giggs laid on a plate for him, I don't understand when he needed to control the ball, why not just hit it first time ?
It was a gift wrapped goal by the Legend but Welbeck is just on another dimension inside the box, a dimension that will not allow him to score goals.
It's not criticism becaus he had a very good match but I think he should have taken it for his confidence sake.
It was a gift wrapped goal by the Legend but Welbeck is just on another dimension inside the box, a dimension that will not allow him to score goals.
It's not criticism becaus he had a very good match but I think he should have taken it for his confidence sake.
I thought he played great when he came on, but seriously, why didn't he hit the shot?
Then again, Rooney and Hernandez should've hit shots first time too but they won't be picked on for it.
Then again, Rooney and Hernandez should've hit shots first time too but they won't be picked on for it.
We're so lucky to have him and Hernandez with us. Their skill sets are perfectly complementary.
He does everything right then fecks up the finish.
We improved loads when he came on. Created loads of space for other players, also did brilliantly for the second goal.
Good performance but he could've scored a couple today. Should have shot first time from Giggs' pull-back towards the end off the game and an earlier effort he completely missed the ball.
That's because they generally put away chances whereas he keeps messing them up. It's about how many such instances keep piling up cumulatively rather than a singular incident in isolation, which is how criticism should be.
I really like Welbeck, I would start him against Real because he works so hard off the ball and uses it sensibly when in possession. If that boy could finish we would have one hell of a player.
Difference is these guys aren't missing guilt-edged opportunities on a consistent basis. Again he played well overall though.
Must think he's playing 5 a sides pissing around when he should have hit that first time. Unbelievable at times how bad his play is inside the box. Everything else is there too, but when he's in on goal you just know he's going to somehow mess it up.
Apart from the hesitancy in front of goal I thought he was excellent when he came on. We're a better footballing team when he's on the pitch.
I'd have him in on the left in our first choice line up over Young at the moment, with Nani on the right. You just feel one-on-one he can glide past anyone.
I'd have him in on the left in our first choice line up over Young at the moment, with Nani on the right. You just feel one-on-one he can glide past anyone.
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