The poor finishing is because of the poor body balance. If he can't develope and get that sorted, he will never be good enough. Strange that the ones thinking he is already a great player either refuse to see that or that they refuse to argue his negative sides.
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The poor finishing is because of the poor body balance. If he can't develope and get that sorted, he will never be good enough. Strange that the ones thinking he is already a great player either refuse to see that or that they refuse to argue his negative sides.
I think SAF has said before that they will know a lot more about his when he fills out physically. I can see Welbeck being a force for many years to come when he has that extra bit of strength. He is certainly United quality and I can see him being one of those players who spends his whole career here.
He is already strong as an ox as far as I can see, he uses his strength to win the ball all the time, he wins his 50/50's and often 40/60 challenges through sheer determination.
His decision making is not quite there yet but that will only come with games which he will eventually get. I think he has what it takes to score goals when he gets his chance. I could not agree more with your final sentence.
Welbecks going through an identity crisis of sorts - not necessarily a major issue taking into account his age.. not really a striker at the moment, but operating as a sort of free roaming playmaker with predatory instincts. His one touch passing, ball carrying is top notch... but his decision making in terms of playing in a killer pass needs a little work, he needs to play in people sooner rather than go back and allow the other team to recover - Hernandez was quite annoyed with him on a number of occasions yesterday. Also needs to be a tad more aggressive on the ball, run at players with more vigour, go for more shots and try to make an impact on the scoreline.
He's very languid and laid back, but those type of players don't usually make the grade at United.. we like our skilful players to have abit of aggression and be quite direct, its why someone like RVP just looks a world away from someone like Berbatov. At the moment Danny seems like he's doing a Berba impression when he needs to be more like a RVP. He's young though, so hopefully it'll just click - just needs more games, sadly I don't we can offer many to the lad at the moment.
He's very languid and laid back, but those type of players don't usually make the grade at United.. we like our skilful players to have abit of aggression and be quite direct, its why someone like RVP just looks a world away from someone like Berbatov. At the moment Danny seems like he's doing a Berba impression when he needs to be more like a RVP. He's young though, so hopefully it'll just click - just needs more games, sadly I don't we can offer many to the lad at the moment.
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So much wrong with this post I don't know where to start, so I won't bother.
Bit harsh.
He does look like a good lower level player the moment though, in that he is a good out ball; someone who holds the ball up well whilst working hard for the team.
Even Andy Townsend rates him FFS.
Andy is old school English style, it is hardly a ringing endorsement.
Yep. Welbeck will make a lot of posters eat their words, just like Evans did. Young players have natural lulls during their development. Fans and commentators are too quick to write them off.
Lets not forget how good Danny Welbeck was last season and how good he could be again.
I have been critical of Welbeck's finishing and remain so but only because I feel he's capable of more, which I think the video above displays.
If Welbeck adds consistency in front of goal to his all around game Welbeck can become the next Dwight Yorke.
It's not a ringing endorsement, it's meant to point out that if someone as stupid as Townsend can see something then there must be something there.
Welbeck will make people feel stupid in a few years, he's very talented.
I think he needs to go out on loan again to get regular football, and thus a chance at regular goals. I actually think he'd have done very well at Wigan for six months, with the style of football they play.
Some of his link up play was outstanding, keep it up Danny boy.
I actually agree with that. He needs to be the main man up front for me. This season he has played second fiddle to whoever he is paired with. I can't see him getting the role in the team that he needs in the next few seasons either, a loan would be great for him, he could even go to a team like Everton.
Welbeck would be within his rights to feel slighted if we loan him out and wonder what he will benefit from it. You're right to say with regular football he might work out some of the kinks in his game but don't you think he could interpret being loaned out ahead of the business end of the season as a sign we don't trust him to do the job when called on?
Fundamentally there's nothing Welbeck needs to add to his game that cannot be done on the training pitch. His one drawback is his finishing and that can be practiced at Carrington, there's no real need for him to go on loan.
Welbeck has had the gauntlet thrown down to him and Fergie, by keeping him around, is showing faith in his ability to rise to the challenge. Poborsky came in Becks rose to the challenge, Yorke came in and Cole rose to the challenge, we've seen it many a time in the Ferguson era that a new signing can be the making of a player. Welbz has just got to go along that well beaten path and prove people wrong.
It hasn't happened yet, he has gone backwards. To be fair to him, he is being asked to play a role that isn't his own. I wouldn't loan him this season either, possibly next season, depending on what happens at the end of this one.
Comparing Welbeck to Heskey is like comparing Rooney to Francis Jeffers. What am I reading.
Heskey never showed the ability to play football like Welbeck can. He falls over a few times and he's branded clumsy. These players just don't get a break do they, every fault is highlighted.
Having a shit time this season, but I expect him to pick things up eventually. He's far too good to be compared with Emile "I've got 4 League Cup medals" Heskey.
Heskey never showed the ability to play football like Welbeck can. He falls over a few times and he's branded clumsy. These players just don't get a break do they, every fault is highlighted.
Having a shit time this season, but I expect him to pick things up eventually. He's far too good to be compared with Emile "I've got 4 League Cup medals" Heskey.
Did Wayne Rooney need to go out on loan in his early 20s when we played him deeper and he went through a dry spell?
Welbeck has played 24 times this season for United and England so far, I'd say he's getting enough game time and performing well enough to justify staying at the club..
He's actually in a far better situation than last season, IMO. Last year he was forced to play even when he needed a rest because he was central to the team and faded in the second half of the season.
Youtube compilations made Bebe look like a prospect.
I, and a others are judging him on his two seasons in the first team. His first season he had a return of 12 goals in all competitions, which is an acceptable return for a 21 year old, yet not as good as some people make out. Hernandez for example has 12 goals already this season.
This season he has 1 goal in 23 appearances. Let's not kid ourselves, that's a terrible return for an attacking player in a team as good as ours. I'm judging him without the rose tinted specs of some, some who'll excuse his poor form because he's a "local lad who loves the club". Well guess what? So are most of the posters on this forum. Being local shouldn't exclude you from criticism.
It's got to the point with some of our 'fans' that I genuinely can't take anything anyone says seriously if they don't rate Welbeck. That isn't fecking fanboyism, it's being able to recognise pure talent.
I miss the days of football being football. Not a load of half arsed casual Man Utd bellends on an internet forum, playing computer games and judging players on stats and the fact they aren't setting the world alight by the age of 21.
I miss the days of football being football. Not a load of half arsed casual Man Utd bellends on an internet forum, playing computer games and judging players on stats and the fact they aren't setting the world alight by the age of 21.
I've been in the mains for less than a week, but this must be part of 25% of your posts.
More than 50% of his posts are discrediting Welbeck.
This is the main defense anytime someone criticizes him. Other defenses include "feck off, you're a shit bandwagoner" and posting Youtube compilations. Welcome to the mains.
Because people can't accept opinions and move on. I'm constantly forced to defend myself, or laugh at romantic bollocks.
Bit harsh maybe, most of the people here seem to be on his side.
With some people though (the minority) they just judge too early. People actually used to criticize Ronaldo and used to say he would never make it. Like Sir Alex says "Some people just can't see potential, they don't understand it"
In a few years, Welbeck fans will be laughing.
Ronaldo was clearly going to be fecking world class. You knew it at first viewing when he came on against Bolton. Welbeck is a total different ketal of fish. You shouldn't compare them, you'll only embarrass yourself.
One can respect your opinion, but there is big difference between accepting and respecting someone's opinion.
You can't persuade people into believeing that Welbeck isn't good enough for Manchester United just by saying he isn't scoring enough goals, when it's obvious he is excellent players who just lacks goals to be even better.
Why don't you criticise Young and Valencia for lack of goals?
I'm not saying he won't be good enough for Manchester United. I have no problem with Welbeck, he's frustrating that's all. He has a 50/50 chance of making it I'd say. Problem I have is with those who act all "top-red" and refuse to listen to criticism involving him. Especially when some of those posters called Hernandez a Championship footballer a few days back.
Because Young and Valencia play entirely different roles. Young hasn't proved himself in that role yet, but Valencia most certainly has.
I'm gonna post a gif to defend Bebe.
I'm his biggest fan, but of course I can't argue he should score more goals. No one is denying that, that would be ridiculous. He's not frustrating, his finishing is though, but overall he isn't frustrating player at all. If there is one player you should enjoy watching in united than it's welbeck.
No one called Hernandez a championship footballer as far as I remember, people just said his allround play is championship level, eventough that's a harsh, I agree. But sometimes that is the case, I see where that is coming from, find his performance against Newcastle few weeks ago where he was praised after just because he scored winning goal, eventough he played awfull game, he was loosing posession for most of the games and missing some great chances. Eventough, his improvemant for this season is massive in that part of his game. But, this discussion isn't about Hernandez.
As for Valencia and Young, you are not right. Valencia ok, his task is to hug the touchline and cross the ball, eventough he should have scored couple of goals, his finishing is awfull too, he could easily scored two or three goals so far.
As for Young, Welbeck played most of the games this season on his position, his role was nothing different to welbeck's in these games.
Bebe's problem has never been his ability to finish and he's very capable of having a mad moment where he's actually able to beat a man, his problems are too many to list and almost all of them are things Welbeck does well.
What makes Welbeck a good player isn't the things that tend to get put into gifs. Although his skill level is outstanding.
What makes Welbeck a good player isn't the things that tend to get put into gifs. Although his skill level is outstanding.
I disagree with Lynk, I think you're judging a young striker too early. However if the best YouTube clip we can come up with from this season is Welbeck having a shot saved then it's fair to say he needs to be more focused on goals, even if he is paying wider than usual.
Amar, 'even though' is two words.
It's not the best, just the most recent that I could find. I was looking for clips of yesterday's WH game but can't find any other than the goals.
Thanks, will remember that.
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