Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances

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Enough of this Welbeck bashing, let's get some the good stuff in here.

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When he's had a consistant spell upfront he's looked very good indeed, the boy just needs games.
 
What always particularly amazes me are his possession stats. For a striker, especially one who dribbles and takes people on, he almost never loses the ball. He often rivals midfielders like Carrick and Cleverley for passing %.

I also love the consistency with which, when chasing down a defender or a goalie, he succeeds in winning the ball. I think it's down to his long legs. He's able to get a foot around in front of the player he's chasing much more quickly than others can, and it seems to take defenders by surprise.

91% at the Euros.

He mightn't lose the ball that much in passing but he frequently loses it when one of his dribbles turns into something like this

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That is a funny gif but you're still a fecking idiot

Really? We have people in the Hernandez thread, calling a player who has scored 12 goals and provided 5 assists for us a "championship" player. And I'm the fecking idiot? Why? Because I have the gall to question a player who is playing up front for one of the prolific teams in Europe, yet has still scored only one goal all season? A player people refuse to criticize constructively, because he's a "local lad"? Well then I happily am a fecking idiot
 
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Lovely back heel - I still :lol: at Rooney's early celebration.

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What a well worked goal that was :drool:
 
Because I have the gall to question a player who is playing up front for one of the prolific teams in Europe, yet has still scored only one goal all season? One people hasten to criticize fairly, because he's a "local lad"? Well then I happily am a fecking idiot
This is factually incorrect. He's played on the wings more often than up front.
 
I think you'll find that he was saying that Hernandez is a championship player outside of the penalty area. Also he's been hammered for saying it.
 
This is factually incorrect.

He has played a significant number of games up front. And yes, also in on the wing (cutting in from the left) But how should that prevent him from scoring more? Anderson, Giggs, Evra and Jonny Evans have scored more goals than him this season.


Someone said in the Hernandez thread that it would be boring if his thread was just pages of people rimming on him for his finishing. So by that rational, I'm gonna be devils advocate here and call out Welbeck for under performing, despite seemingly no one else doing it on here.
 
I was surprised to see him shoot rather than look for Hernández after that great run. Nothing wrong with him being a bit more selfish though, I'd say. He'll probably be a better player for it...once his finishing improves.
 
Needed to pass to Cheech there probably, but yeah he has been lively.
 
I was surprised to see him shoot rather than look for Hernández after that great run. Nothing wrong with him being a bit more selfish though, I'd say. He'll probably be a better player for it...once his finishing improves.

Agree with everything apart from your surprise at the shot: Welbz is a striker in that position he should shoot. We don't want our strikers turning Torres and running away from chances just a shame he didn't get either the power or whip he needed on it.
 
Needed to pass to Cheech there probably, but yeah he has been lively.

To be fair to him, it would have been a tricky pass to execute on his weaker side. Could easily have got it wrong and we'd have lost the ball without even having a go on goal. He had a good chance to get a shot away for himself and he took it... nothing wrong with that I don't think.
 
Excellent performance from him so far. He really is great to watch when he's like this.
 
What has really impressed me today about him is his desire and attitude to demonstrate just how much he wants a position. He's been a little bit unlucky in his chances and he has been playing very well, linking up with Cleverley etc.
Regardless of how well he is playing ( I think he's playing fantastically, and hopefully this passage of good play throughout the game returns some fruit....), he has an immense desire to prove to the club, SAF especially that he wants more games.
He's working at an extremely high level in my opinion and hopefully he sees some results for his hard work, good play and brilliant attitude.
 
Technically he's actually a rather accomplished finisher, it's more to do with getting into the positions. How often do you see him score a tap-in, for example? Still, only 22, goalscoring can be learned, and he has absolutely everything else.
 
Was excellent today. He's turning into a very well rounded striker, he can do most things very well. His control in tight situations is great for a striker.
 
A good performance regarding the things that he is good at, the problem is still that there is far too little goal threat from him.
 
As a striker he does so many things well. There aren't many others with the versatility and link up play he has. Somehow he needs to get more luck in front of goal though. It's been too long since we saw him get on the scoresheet.
 
As a striker he does so many things well. There aren't many others with the versatility and link up play he has. Somehow he needs to get more luck in front of goal though. It's been too long since we saw him get on the scoresheet.

It isn't about luck. He doesn't get in enough positions to score.
 
decent first half, arguably his best performance so far this season.

So "decent first half" is arguably his best performance this season? :wenger:

He had better games this season, but he was still excellent today.
 
He's just quality. His technical ability is unbelievable. How people still don't see it is beyond me. Yes, he doesn't score enough atm, but he's 22! Its only his second year in the first team at United, he's obviously going to have areas he needs to work on. He's going to be a beast of a player in a few years. An absolute beast.
 
Where are the goals??? I can't believe the number of you saying how brilliant this was and that was - he's a CF, he is supposed to score goals.
 
Very good today. Such a skilful player. He will start scoring.

Edit: Sam said it better than me.
 
Where are the goals??? I can't believe the number of you saying how brilliant this was and that was - he's a CF, he is supposed to score goals.

Because he's the first striker ever to go through a goal drought.

In fact he's hardly played as a striker is season, and whenever he has started as one he's had to drop deeper to help the team as some point in the game.. maybe things just aren't as simple as you clearly think they are.
 
Where are the goals??? I can't believe the number of you saying how brilliant this was and that was - he's a CF, he is supposed to score goals.

Last season, when he was first choice at United, at the age of 21 he scored 9 PL goals. In Wayne Rooney's first season at United, he scored 11 PL goals. At, admittedly, a slightly younger age.

But look at Rooney now. Look how many goals he's gone on to score as he's matured and worked at that side of his game. The point is, just because he's not scoring lots and lots now, doesn't mean its never going to happen. Players develop and mature at different ages. Just look at his technical ability, does it not excite you? He's got so much to his game, and so much potential. The way he plays is fantastic to watch. Add to the fact he's a young local lad, and United fan to boot, he's exactly the sort of player that should have us fans stupidly excited.

But no, apparently it just means its easier to slag him off, because he's not a fancy signing with a foreign name.
 
He isn't such a natural fox in the box as Hernandez, but on the other hand his allround-game is top notch when on form (like today).

You won't find many strikers in the Premier League better in the build-up than Danny Welbeck. He's got the pace and presence as well.

I think what he lacks is confidence in front of goal and a bit of composure (much like Rooney lacked until about four seasons ago). Add to that his movement in the box isn't special at this moment, and playing largely in wide areas this season, it explains his goal output.
 
Had a good first half, but was average in the second.
 
I really like Welbeck but I don't think the concern about his goal-threat is unjustified. It's not like he's out of form or anything, he's still looking confident and playing his normal game but the goal threat's not really there. Henry really wasn't a huge goal threat himself at a young age before one day the goals just started flowing, though.
 
I really like Welbeck but I don't think the concern about his goal-threat is unjustified. It's not like he's out of form or anything, he's still looking confident and playing his normal game but the goal threat's not really there. Henry really wasn't a huge goal threat himself at a young age before one day the goals just started flowing, though.

It's not unjustified, no. But he'll obviously score more goals playing through the middle than on the wings. And at times this season he has been off the boil, I'd say.

He might just need a run of goalscoring to get his head right in front of goal. I still think he'll end up a top, top player.
 
I really like Welbeck but I don't think the concern about his goal-threat is unjustified. It's not like he's out of form or anything, he's still looking confident and playing his normal game but the goal threat's not really there. Henry really wasn't a huge goal threat himself at a young age before one day the goals just started flowing, though.

Neither were Rooney or RVP. They've both developed into goalscorers, and clearly had to work on that side of their game. And look at them both now.

I just think we need to calm down a bit with the whole he doesn't score enough thing, and enjoy what he does bring to the table, and be excited about his potential.
 
I really like Welbeck but I don't think the concern about his goal-threat is unjustified. It's not like he's out of form or anything, he's still looking confident and playing his normal game but the goal threat's not really there. Henry really wasn't a huge goal threat himself at a young age before one day the goals just started flowing, though.

Well, it's been awhile since he has been on the field with our strongest 10 players alongside him. In his last couple of games he was more involved in creating the chances then finishing them. He has put two good performances in his last two good games, that's the most important thing.
 
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