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Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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Perfectly put Ciderman.
Very good performance but I'd love for him to end his drought one of these days. I had no idea he had such a monstrous leap on him.
If he'd scored on the counter (which would've been some goal), the Balotelli vs Welbeck thread would've seen some action.
He plays football well though doesn't he? They may be short passes, but he likes to play that intricate stuff in and around the 18 yard box...you won't find many 6 foot 2 lads being able to knock it around like that.
He plays football well though doesn't he? They may be short passes, but he likes to play that intricate stuff in and around the 18 yard box...you won't find many 6 foot 2 lads being able to knock it around like that.
I can't believe this and the goal he scored in that game will hardly ever get remembered. Purely because we drew that game at Everton and then lost the title. His goal was superb.
To be fair, the service was diabolical at times today. Even RVP struggled when he came on. Today wasn't the best chance he'll get to grab himself a goal.
He's genuinely clueless when he's inside the box. I think a lot of people are over rating his link up play.
That's just a very large lie.
Open your eyes and try watching a game
You've got to feel for him after plummeting down the pecking order from last season as he has, but I really hope we can give him enough games to keep him happy and developing, because if so he's going to be a big, big player for a long time. Would be interested to see him play in a front two with RVP for a couple of games.
This, if you was watching the match today, an didn't end up screaming at the tele because he held our attack up/slowed the play down/made the wrong decision, your in denial... there is no way in any match when we are chasing a goal Welbeck should stay on the pitch over Hernandez
Weave k was very good today, really stretched them all over the pitch. There's more to team play tan just goals
Welbeck's clearly got it. He's gonna be a star.
How you couldn't be impressed by his overall play today is beyond me, I thought he had a great game with a goal being the only obvious thing missing.
Exactly, he's a striker not a creative midfielder, hes there to score goals... an before the 'Welbecks a local hero parade' jump on this, his job is to score goals, a tallu he is equal with Buttner on in the EPL
Haha I'm not sure why you said exactly, I said it was a great performance which you don't seem to agree with at all. He is a striker but goals aren't everything, he certainly creates enough through his link up play and pressing to be a valuable player for us whether he's scoring or not. Goals would be nice, though. But I have faith those will come eventually.
When you're talking about a young player, particularly a team-oriented one, it's hard to differentiate poor decision-making from deference to senior teammates. And that's without taking into account any possible internal club designations as to where he falls in the license-to-shoot pecking order.
Particularly inside the box, where milliseconds and inches are the difference between a shot on target and being dispossessed, if your first thought when a chance comes to you is "Where is RvP/Rooney/Ryan etc." - and by the way keeping track of all of them if they're on the pitch with you - "and can I possibly set something even better up for them?" you're going to take a different sort of touch than if you know for sure you have license to shoot.
If SAF for example designated Welbeck as first or second option, not many people would be surprised at all if he scored about 25 goals. We've all seen he has the technique. Clearly right now he's been told he's about fourth or third option. Even being third option is actually pretty low since it still just means you're constantly looking to create for one and two.
Anyway all of that is just a more detailed version of what people mean when they point out that Welbeck is well on his way to being a very very good striker.
Professional sport is like professional gambling. Over the long run playing the percentages is what wins you titles. If anything Welbeck's actually showing some great professionalism by playing to his role instead of trying to play to his ability.
Personally though I wouldn't mind if he was threatened with a fine if he doesn't create at least two long shots for himself per outing. He's got a great shot on him.
I'm not sure why I said exactly, must have misread you sorry... There is always going to be a divide between United fans on Welbeck, personally I want him to do well, but find him more frustrating then the other 4 strikers we have, an we are chasing a game and needing a goal, any Utd fan who isn't disheartened seeing Hernandez jog off the pitch instead of Welbeck... (At this moment in time/ season) is deluded
I forget which game it was but it was one relatively recently in which he was brought on late, he ended up winning the ball and then getting fouled which directly lead to us winning off the free kick. I agree Hernandez is the more likely to score, but Welbeck can still contribute in other ways.
I know he can contribute in other ways, and his link up play from 30+ yards plus outside of goal is really good, but what am saying is he needs to start putting the ball in the back of the net, simple as, do you not agree?
I do agree he needs to start scoring more, I'm pretty sure most everyone would as well. That doesn't mean I don't think he has value to the team, and not just from 30 yards out.
He had a great game without scoring and he does that quite often. That's not a trait that many strikers can boast, especially at his age.
In saying that, he does need to start banging them in. It would be different if he was ranking up on assists, but he's not doing that either. Hopefully he can turn it around soon and sharing the load with RVP, Rooney and Hernandez.
In saying that, he does need to start banging them in. It would be different if he was ranking up on assists, but he's not doing that either. Hopefully he can turn it around soon and sharing the load with RVP, Rooney and Hernandez.
Maybe, but in Welbeck's case it's pretty clear cut. Not only he is he a poor decision-maker, but he's a slow decision-maker also.
It's reasonable to surmise that footballing intelligence in attack is how well a player sees the play and how far ahead they do so. When you watch someone like Kagawa or Giggs, you can see they already have a plan for the ball before they even receive it. At the other end of the spectrum, Welbeck seems consistently behind the play, as if a light bulb comes on his head only once the ball arrives at him, by which time the best option has likely disappeared. Half the time, I am not even sure that light bulb comes on.
The observation that he is clueless is right, but I'd extend it outside of the box also. He has decent technical ability, but is not an intelligent player, and it's because of this he'll not develop much beyond his current effectiveness.
That said, Welbeck hasn't had a whole lot of clear scoring opportunities this season. Hernandez has the exceptional movement in the box but he is getting a lot more service. Welbeck isn't scoring and it is disappointing but it isn't entirely his fault. If he was missing chance after chance it would be a different story.
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I'm not really sure how you've got that so spectacularly wrong. You've basically just described a completely different player, I'm not even sure you were actually thinking of Welbeck when you typed all that out, at least I hope you weren't.
I'm not really sure how you've got that so spectacularly wrong. You've basically just described a completely different player, I'm not even sure you were actually thinking of Welbeck when you typed all that out, at least I hope you weren't.
His 2 back heel goals for England would disagree with you.
You're genuinely clueless when you're inside this thread.
I thought he played some terrific stuff, as others have said he's brilliant to watch when he is on form. We'll have to wait and see whether the composure inside the box comes with experience and practice, if it does he'll be one of the top strikers in the league definitely.
I can't believe this and the goal he scored in that game will hardly ever get remembered. Purely because we drew that game at Everton and then lost the title. His goal was superb.
Nani, Rooney and Welbeck were on fire in that game...can't believe we didn't win. It was more like the start of the season with the mauling of Arsenal and the win over City in the Community Shield.
Was impressed with Welbeck today. Looked a lot more composed and it showed in his technique.
Agreed, I said the same thing we mauled Everton that day. Welbeck and Rooney were outstanding as a partnership. Psychic connection, on the same wavelength for every move and we should have won that match comfortably.
Clueless in the box? The chip against Belgium. The back heel against Sweden. The volley against City. Not to mention great goals he has scored against Everton and Wolves. Welbeck is class. Such a gifted player, he's still very young and a bit raw but if you can't see the talent, then I don't know what player you've been watching. With experience, he'll gain maturity and composure and I can see him being a top class player for us soon. He's played out wide for the majority of the season and it doesn't really surprise me that he is still looking to set players up. If he could get some more games up top, then we'd see a change in mentality and a bit more ruthlessness from him. He also gives us more presence and a lot of work up front and this has resulted in goals, recently van Persie's against City. He is more complete and versatile, but once he improves his finishing then he will be a top striker, with no doubt in my mind.
Good all round play but needs to improve in the final third big time.
He reminds me of Heskey sometimes, although they are completely different type of players. But they do share some similarities - poor finishing and body balance.
What a great big pile of nonsense. And that's me being polite.
You know what, feck polite. Stop talking bollocks. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.
Welbeck is mostly played out of his best/preferred position these days to give him game time. It's hardly fair to judge.
I thought he did well yesterday. What I really like about him is how comfortable he is on the ball, his quick thinking combined with his understanding and one touch play with cleverley. He needs to improve on his finishing though.
I feel sorry for Welbeck tbh. Coming into this season on the back of his breakthrough season for us and a very good Euros I expected him to kick on and get 15+ goals this season. This was always going to be the one drawback of signing RVP.
This post scores high on the whatfeckingplayerhaveyoubeenwatching-o-meter. He's been a regular feature for a year and a half now. There's really no excuse.
fecking hell, seems all you have to do is open a box of cruskits every now and then to get a promotion these days. What an absolute load of fecking nonsense. Infraction-worthy.
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