Dalot is the problem.
Dalot vs Wan-Bissaka
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Dalot is the problem.
Dalot has not been 'shocking'. He's been subpar because he came from injury and was probably played too early. Before that he played every bloody game at the start of the season.
He was more than OK in the first half but you and people like you will now come in droves to rewrite history. Meanwhile, the great defender AwB cannot defend the backpost to save his life and woud have been stretched off the pitch today.
I said all summer we needed a new right back and nothing has chanced my mind since. Dalot is appalling.
They have time till the end of the season to show they can be trusted. Next campaign, tricky Champions League fixtures could verify this team in a brutal way along with quality of decisions being made in the summer.
ETH should not hesitate if serious doubts will persist. Managers before him trusted some players and got f*cked in the end.
ETH should not hesitate if serious doubts will persist. Managers before him trusted some players and got f*cked in the end.
Yes, he was doing so well in the first 45 that half of the team were screaming at him for being constantly out of position and for wasting possession and then he went missing for the first goal. You and people like you will never accept that Dalot is a total mystery as a player. Cannot defend or attack so what exactly is he meant to be good at? 2 good months in 5 years is not good enough and he needs replacing but that notwithstanding AWB has been in far superior form since the World Cup and yet despite Dalot having a mare in the cup final and a shocker against West Ham he was selected again today, what exactly did Erik think would happen?
Ah, they were screaming at him, were they? Were they also screaming at Antony who was all over the place defensively? This is absolute revisionist nonsense.
I have said many times, Dalot is nowhere near good enough, never has been, never will be. Some posters have decided that they don't rate AWB and therefore Dalot is some kind of answer. Well, not rating AWB is fine, if that's your opinion, but we need to discard any kind of idea of Dalot being a good alternative
Awb would have struggled today too. Both his passing and positioning would’ve been very much exposed. We definitely need someone better than both.
Exactly my point. I was amazed how much we relied on Dalot to carry the ball out of defense, especially in the first half.
What do people think would have happened if AwB had two Liverpool players on him at all times? He'd have been exposed, just how he was last season in these fixtures.
Dalot defending was atrocious today and people say he is good going forward. Well, against Liverpool at Anfield it was a suicide mission. Btw, he offered nothing in attack too.
Again, this is a blatant lie. We literally almost scored from his cross.
Sorry to dig this up but it's aged horribly and it was only two months ago.
Dalot is bang average.
We haven't had a good right back since Rafael. Time to get a new Right-Back
I refuse to accept ANY pinning of the blame on any one player for that result. To a man we were terrible second half. All 11 on pitch and the 5 substitutes. "So and so isn't good enough' is a cop out of reality and scape goating nonsense, frankly.
If Barca want Dalot, they can have him. Frimpong would be an upgrade.
You got meLies.
Can't lie, seeing Dalot start did not fill me with confidence. He is in poor form, this was not the game for him
Put this in Bissaka's player thread, also, but probably suits this one better:
I was somewhat surprised he didn't play, to be honest. Dalot has not been very good since coming back and Bissaka has been great.
One thing to note, Wan Bissaka hasn't played a minute in any of our thrashings this season. In fact, we conceded 10 goals (3 were conceded against Arsenal and 3 against Barcelona) in the 15 games (0.67 goals conceded per game) he has played over 45 minutes. We only actually conceded 4 goals in the other 12 games (0.33 goals conceded per game) when you remove the 2 Barcelona games and the Arsenal game.
Compare that to Dalot: 32 goals conceded in 27 games (1.19 goals conceded per game) for games played over 45 minutes. And we conceded 15 in 24 (0.625 goals conceded per game) with the three biggest conceding games removed.
We seem to be far more solid with Bissaka in the team than Dalot.
I was somewhat surprised he didn't play, to be honest. Dalot has not been very good since coming back and Bissaka has been great.
One thing to note, Wan Bissaka hasn't played a minute in any of our thrashings this season. In fact, we conceded 10 goals (3 were conceded against Arsenal and 3 against Barcelona) in the 15 games (0.67 goals conceded per game) he has played over 45 minutes. We only actually conceded 4 goals in the other 12 games (0.33 goals conceded per game) when you remove the 2 Barcelona games and the Arsenal game.
Compare that to Dalot: 32 goals conceded in 27 games (1.19 goals conceded per game) for games played over 45 minutes. And we conceded 15 in 24 (0.625 goals conceded per game) with the three biggest conceding games removed.
We seem to be far more solid with Bissaka in the team than Dalot.
U-turn on the votes?
St Maxima was running at full speed at Dalot the entire match and cut back to creat countless chances. It was so easy to play against Dalot.
I think AWB with his speed and athleticism should be much better match but he was ill.
I think AWB with his speed and athleticism should be much better match but he was ill.
One is clearly a better defender than the other but ultimately they're not good enough. When they get in good attacking positions, they're really poor, Dalot crosses it high and wide and Bissaka has those low attempts that don't get past the first defender
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Would be different now I reckon
They both need to be played in 2 to 3 month rotations. Any longer than 3 months and their form falls off a cliff and they turn to crap.
Neither.
Don't think either are good enough tbh, it's another position that needs upgrading, and if the Frimpong and Pavard rumours are true then that suggests Ten Hag obviously has doubts over the two current incumbents as well.
Dalot is either utter crap or really good, there seems to be no in between. Id stick with AwB. Like Luke Shaw, I think AwB can do the job at RCB as well.
I think both of them have their flaws, but Dalot is better at helping build from the back.
At least, he was... that's sort of gone out of the window since he got injured at the WC.
At least, he was... that's sort of gone out of the window since he got injured at the WC.
AWB should be starting. He has been much better than Dalot since he got fit and came back into the team. Dalot played extremely well before the WC, but that form has gone now.
I used to be of this opinion too, but now I don't know. Can't remember the last time he played a particularly good ball forward during build-up.
This is what I mean. Dalot is way more comfortable on the ball, but his confidence seems to have evaporated. It probably doesn't help that there's also just less to aim for at the moment, and no one in MF offering him an option.
AWB has/was playing with confidence and even carrying the ball to some degree. That along with him being a better defender means he probably shades it at the moment.
But we need early season Dalot back. We'll be able to control possession much better then, especially with Casemiro and Eriksen back too.
Dalot is not a good RB. He has problems defending and often does not notice runs behind him. He is good at going forward.
AWB is really good at defending and I love seeing him tackling. He has improved his skills going forward. So I prefer him over Dalot. And I want a RB, who knows how to defend.
AWB is really good at defending and I love seeing him tackling. He has improved his skills going forward. So I prefer him over Dalot. And I want a RB, who knows how to defend.
AWB should be starting because at least he does one thing good (defending). Dalot's shit at defending and relatively average at going forward.
Whilst I agree that Dalot isn't great going forward, Wan Bissaka is well below average going forward. I feel more confident in us creating chances when Dalot dribbling up the pitch than I ever have done with Wan Bissaka.
As much as I rate Dalot's profile of player way more, you'd have to think AwB is really unlucky to not be playing today but maybe the illness has something to do with
I find it funny that some supporters seems to put facts on bissaka being the most speedy of the 2,this is plainly wrong. Dalot is not the problem,abd he is by far the better option over Bissaka in terms of the play we want to achieve
Neither
Both are very close but if I had to choose one it will be AWB because Dalot defending against speedy winger is atrocious.
This position is not urgent to upgrade because we have many other positions as priorities.
If we are bought over by Qatar then we can look to upgrade RB.
This position is not urgent to upgrade because we have many other positions as priorities.
If we are bought over by Qatar then we can look to upgrade RB.
Great to see Dalot back to early season form yesterday. Very hard call for me. Both could probably become great. My best guess would be Dalot, but so happy for AWB to get form back. He will have a great career, might not be here.