Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed

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What is the point of depth if the depth is not quality? In terms of numbers we have a lot of depth in midfield. In terms of quality we are lacking. I do not think he would bring us much quality in midfield or at LB.

Blind is quality enough. You won't find better players that are happy sitting on the bench for extended periods. One would think he's the second coming of Dion Dublin the way you're undermining his ability.
 
Elko Born doesn't think Blind will move to United because it will hamper his development and he needs first team opportunities regularly to further his career. I also doubt his father would advise him to join United to be a squad player.
 
Elko Born doesn't think Blind will move to United because it will hamper his development and he needs first team opportunities regularly to further his career. I also doubt his father would advise him to join United to be a squad player.

Whichever way you look at it, it'd be a step up in levels, do its questionable whether staying in Holland is actually better for his development as a player.

You'd like to think any player who joined wouldn't see himself as a squad player and would have the confidence to back himself to do well anyway.

Lets be honest - he's not going to become a great player with top sides banging his door down. If I were his dad I'd suggest he seriously considers an offer to join a big club, especially under Van Gaal. He might not get another chance. He could also secure his future financially.
 
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What is the point of depth if the depth is not quality? In terms of numbers we have a lot of depth in midfield. In terms of quality we are lacking. I do not think he would bring us much quality in midfield or at LB.

He's had a good World Cup to be fair to him, and LVG must see something in him or he would t be there.

Looks a reliable, neat and tidy player. No issue with him coming on if the club seem it appropriate.
 
Whichever way you look at it, it's be a step up in levels, do its questionable whether staying in Holland is actually better for his development as a player.

You'd like to think any player who joined wouldn't see himself as a squad player and would have the confidence to back himself to do well.
The general consensus in Holland is that Blind is not good enough to be a starter at a big club. If i'm not mistaken he was booed by his own fans not long ago for his poor showings at LB hence De Boer switching his position. In my opinion, Blind looked good in the World Cup due to Van Gaal taking a pragmatic approach tactically. I expect Van Gaal to switch back to his adventurous approach at Man United and I don't believe Blind is the type of midfielder that could cope too well in a midfield playing for United in the EPL due to how limited he is in a attacking sense, i'd rather see Pearson promoted.
 
The general consensus in Holland is that Blind is not good enough to be a starter at a big club. If i'm not mistaken he was booed by his own fans not long ago for his poor showings at LB hence De Boer switching his position. In my opinion, Blind looked good in the World Cup due to Van Gaal taking a pragmatic approach tactically. I expect Van Gaal to switch back to his adventurous approach at Man United and I don't believe Blind is the type of midfielder that could cope too well in a midfield playing for United in the EPL due to how limited he is in a attacking sense, i'd rather see Pearson promoted.

I'm not sure why the "consensus in Holland" would effect the opinion the player would have of himself. If he's made it as a pro I suspect he has confidence in his ability to perform. As such, the point I was making was that I suspect he'd seriously consider the move.

In terms of ability, we potentially need players capable of slotting into various positions, and perhaps not expecting to start week after week. He performed well at the World Cup in midfield and at left back, two positions where we look like needing cover.

He might not be a great attacking threat, but Van Gaal seems to like players who can fit a system, which it seems he can. I suspect if he did bring him in it wouldn't be as a creative force in midfield.

It's a moot point as it stands, it's just opinion whether he's a target. Football is a squad game these days though, and while we'd all love to see youth team players making the grade the reality is that a fraction of them will ever make the jump from reserves to the PL because of the difference in quality. Certainly comparing an experienced international with a kid from the youth team seems premature.
 
I'm not sure why the "consensus in Holland" would effect the opinion the player would have if himself. If he's made it as a pro I suspect he has confidence in his ability to perform. As such, the point I was making was that I suspect he'd seriously consider the move.

In terms of ability, we potentially need players capable of slotting into various positions, and perhaps not expecting to start week after week. He performed well at the World Cup in midfield and at left back, two positions where we look like needing cover.

He might not be a great attacking threat, but Van Gaal seems to like players who can fit a system, which it seems he can. I suspect if he did bring him in it wouldn't be as a creative force in midfield.

It's a moot point as it stands, it's just opinion whether he's a target. Football is a squad game these days though, and while we'd all love to see youth team players making the grade the reality is that a fraction of them will ever make the jump from reserves to the PL because of the difference in quality.
In my opinion if you have Blind playing in a system which Van Gaal used in the World Cup then it's fine but in a system that's adventurous. his defeciencies would come to light. At left back he's too slow, and for midfield playing in a attacking team he would be a liability on the counter attack, just my opinion.
 
In my opinion if you have Blind playing in a system which Van Gaal used in the World Cup then it's fine but in a system that's adventurous. his defeciencies would come to light. At left back he's too slow, and for midfield playing in a attacking team he would be a liability on the counter attack, just my opinion.

And you're entitled to it. Based purely on what I've seen at the World Cup he looks half decent, neat and tidy and a hard worker. I think players like that are valuable in the squad - especially given that he can play left back. You say he's "too slow" but in a back 5 you're actually likely to be attacking more than you would in a back four, so it might suggest that Van Gaal thinks otherwise. In midfield he's nothing special but does his job.

I'm not concivnced that Van Gaal wont use the tactics he's used at the World Cup in any event, although I suspect that depends very much on the squad he ends up with when the season kicks off.
 
And you're entitled to it. Based purely on what I've seen at the World Cup he looks half decent, neat and tidy and a hard worker. I think players like that are valuable in the squad - especially given that he can play left back. You say he's "too slow" but in a back 5 you're actually likely to be attacking more than you would in a back four, so it might suggest that Van Gaal thinks otherwise. In midfield he's nothing special but does his job.

I'm not concivnced that Van Gaal wont use the tactics he's used at the World Cup in any event, although I suspect that depends very much on the squad he ends up with when the season kicks off.
I would be shocked if he used them tactics at United, and i've been following his career since he was at Ajax. He changed the system for the World Cup due to Strootmans injury, Van Gaal prefers the 4-3-3/3-4-3 formation.

As for Daley Blind, I honestly believe we have players in the u-21 team who could be just as good if not better.
 
Simply no chance LVG will play with 5 at the back (except for odd occasions) given the number of CBs we have unless he bought/promoted 3 more.
 
Simply no chance LVG will play with 5 at the back (except for odd occasions) given the number of CBs we have unless he bought/promoted 3 more.
It's not going to happen. You'll see 4 at the back.
 
I'd take Blind as part of the squad. Seems a very intelligent player, and could cover across the back four and the midfield. Plus, LvG obviously rates and trusts him.
 
With talk of van Gaal wanting to slimline the squad, Blind would be an even better addition and would also be subjected to a lot of game time, despite filling numerous roles.

I don't believe we can go wrong with this deal. Surely Blind would see it as too good an opportunity to turn down, even if he is advised to join a side where he plays week-in, week-out.
 
I'd take Blind as part of the squad. Seems a very intelligent player, and could cover across the back four and the midfield. Plus, LvG obviously rates and trusts him.

Agree, I think he would be a very useful signing, hope we're in for him.
 
Another vote for Daley Blind, been very impressed with him at the World Cup. Top work rate.
 
Simply no chance LVG will play with 5 at the back (except for odd occasions) given the number of CBs we have unless he bought/promoted 3 more.

We have 3 CB's, one will be brought in, Keane can be promoted and then he played with Blind as LCB in like 3 matches. I think Shaw can play that role too probably if needed. Carrick can fill in as well.

In 5 at the back you don't necessarily need natural CB's in all positions. Or even natural Fullbacks as such though it helps.

But i think he'd keep such a formation for bigger games rather than a regular feature.
 
We have 3 CB's, one will be brought in, Keane can be promoted and then he played with Blind as LCB in like 3 matches. I think Shaw can play that role too probably if needed. Carrick can fill in as well.

In 5 at the back you don't necessarily need natural CB's in all positions. Or even natural Fullbacks as such though it helps.

But i think he'd keep such a formation for bigger games rather than a regular feature.
he wouldnt have even played that formation at holland had it not been forced on him by injury to strootman and a lack of quality central midfield replacements - I would hope he would seek to buy in some quality central midfield for us rather than look to shift formation.

i think for Blind we would be a terrible move - if we play two centre backs he is unlikley to be one of them - if we play a left back shaw must be considered the no1 pick given his price tag plus he wont develop without those games and we of course brought him to develop. and in midfield blind would struggle to get into a team ahead of carrick / herrera - let alone is a strootman or vidal etc is brought in.

Blind should either stay where he is (could become a club legend like his dad) or move to a club where he will get in the first team
 
he wouldnt have even played that formation at holland had it not been forced on him by injury to strootman and a lack of quality central midfield replacements - I would hope he would seek to buy in some quality central midfield for us rather than look to shift formation.

He played that formation for Holland more because the CB's and especially the fullbacks were dodgy to play a 4 and he didn't want Robben tracking back.

Strootman could have fit a 5-3-2 just fine like a 4-3-3.
 
He'll go to Wolfsburg, Monchengladbach, Sevilla etc. - not a top club.
 
Not convinced by his defending at all to be honest. Composed on the ball though
 
I think he's more of left back/holding midfielder.
I know that.
I was thinking if he could be a backup for Rafael as well as Shaw, in case of injuries.
If so, having a fullback on the bench that can go into either position would be very good to have.
 
I know that.
I was thinking if he could be a backup for Rafael as well as Shaw, in case of injuries.
If so, having a fullback on the bench that can go into either position would be very good to have.
I don't see him as a right back.
 
I was sad to see Fabio leave because I thought he was a capable backup to both fullback positions, and it angered me that we kept Buttner instead of him, who played shit and now fecked off. Bringing in Blind will heal that pain a little...
 
I could see him making the switch because of v.Gaal's presence. I don't think Blind is good enough for this level, but he'd be a decent squadplayer as he can play different positions. At Ajax he'd have more certainty of playing games, which I'm pretty sure he really values as well, but I think Blind is realistic enough to know an opportunity like Manchester United might not come along another time. Besides he knows if there's one manager that will give him a fair chance it's v.Gaal. Other managers might just buy him as a number and if he plays one bad match drop him for good thinking 'he wasn't that expensive anyway, no one will care'. That's what happens to many players that are brought in as squad players. But Blind knows v.Gaal won't do that. He will get a fair chance with v.Gaal, so I can see him taking the opportunity if it's really there. Obviously so far it's just rumours though.
 
if theres any truth in LVG wanting to reduce squad size, then every member of the 'streamlined' squad will get game time

Blind impressed me, never seems to be flustered.
 
Would be a excellent squad player,hard working,can play in multiple positions and would relish the chance getting a stab at plying his trade at OT under van Gaal.

Lads,*** away at the likes of Vidal,Kroos etc,but dont melt down cos some spa of twatter insider hypes it up and it never happens.
 
I'm confident we'll get him as long as we sell Evra which seem very likely at this stage. I can't see us buying someone like Ricardo Rodriguez, although I'm a big fan of him, right after we bought Shaw. Blind is a perfect backup for Shaw and his versatility makes him a great squad player to have. If it's true that van Gaal doesn't want a overly deep squad, then these type of players will be needed.
 
Would be a solid backup for Shaw for decent money, can play in other positions too, want him. Someone like Rodriguez as backup is just unnecessary, Blind would be a good choice.
 
The only reason to buy him is if he was willing to be a back up to a 19 year old LB, he's too slow to play as a DM in the Prem.
 
I doubt a 24 year old international will sign to be a backup for a 18 year old .

Are you talking about Blind or Rodriguez? About Rodriguez you are right, that's why the transfer doesn't make any sense, both are too good and too talented to be a backup option, especially because there aren't that many great fullbacks outthere. Blind would be happy enough that he already can be a part of a club like Manchester United imo, it's a unique chance for him because of van Gaal, I don't think any other big club will sign him.
 
Are you talking about Blind or Rodriguez? About Rodriguez you are right, that's why the transfer doesn't make any sense, both are too good and too talented to be a backup option, especially because there aren't that many great fullbacks outthere. Blind would be happy enough that he already can be a part of a club like Manchester United imo, it's a unique chance for him because of van Gaal, I don't think any other big club will sign him.

More importantly Blind will fancy that he can partner Ander in CM
 
Blind is exactly the sort of player we shouldn't be going for if there's a promising youngster available in the position. Unremarkable, very little chance of being anything more than bench-fodder... might as well give an academy kid a chance.
 
Blind is exactly the sort of player we shouldn't be going for if there's a promising youngster available in the position. Unremarkable, very little chance of being anything more than bench-fodder... might as well give an academy kid a chance.
Why? Because he's 24? He's coming off an excellent season, was one of the standout players at the World Cup and can play in the two positions we most need players. I think he's brilliant and will get significantly better.
 
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