Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed

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Like Vermaelen, will offer tactical flexbility as he can operate in a number of positions. Sensible signing.
 
Would be a very underwhelming signing in my opinion. Don't think he ever really stands out for Ajax. The Dutch league isn't very strong.

Ajax PotY 12/13, Dutch PotY 13/14. Not too shabby for someone who never stands out.
 
Ajax PotY 12/13, Dutch PotY 13/14. Not too shabby for someone who never stands out.
He's a decent player, no doubt, but you have to look at it in the context of a very weak Dutch league. He's consistently one of Ajax' better players but in order to make the jump from the Eredivisie to a club like United, you have to dominate the league like Suarez used to do. Lasse Schøne was named Ajax player of the year this season and he can hardly get a call-up for Denmark. I'm not saying he's a bad player but I cannot in any way imagine he'll improve us significantly. If we bought him, I'd assume it would be as a squad player. And I think we need to improve the first XI, not the bench.
 
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"A player who impressed in a new position is Daley Blind, who was moved into a midfield role by De Boer early on this season and immediately became his side's undisputed leader, even earning himself the Player of the Season award."

googled it, so he must have performed not too bad to be named player of the season? Not only at Ajax, but the leagues player of the season as well!

According to whoscored.com the 2nd best performer of Ajax with a rating of 7,36

I don't say he has United Quality but worse than Cleverley?
 
player of the season award winner:

2005-06
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Dirk Kuyt (NED)Feyenoord
2006-07
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Afonso Alves (BRA)SC Heerenveen
2007-08
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John Heitinga (NED)Ajax
2008-09
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Mounir El Hamdaoui (MAR)AZ
2009-10
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Luis Suárez (URU)Ajax
2010-11
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Theo Janssen (NED)Twente
2011-12
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Jan Vertonghen (BEL)Ajax
2012-13
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Wilfried Bony (CIV)Vitesse
2013-14
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Daley Blind (NED)Ajax
 
at already 24 years of age you can't expect much improvement. Really good players usually move much earlier to top leagues
 
player of the season award winner:

2005-06
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Dirk Kuyt (NED)Feyenoord
2006-07
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Afonso Alves (BRA)SC Heerenveen
2007-08
23px-Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg.png
John Heitinga (NED)Ajax
2008-09
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Mounir El Hamdaoui (MAR)AZ
2009-10
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Luis Suárez (URU)Ajax
2010-11
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Theo Janssen (NED)Twente
2011-12
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Jan Vertonghen (BEL)Ajax
2012-13
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Wilfried Bony (CIV)Vitesse
2013-14
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Daley Blind (NED)Ajax
Yeah, that's kind of my point. How many of those players would you really want at United? Suarez and Vertonghen? There are very few players from the Eredivisie who could cut it at United as important players, not just squaddies, and I don't think Blind is one of them.
 
Would be a very underwhelming signing in my opinion. Don't think he ever really stands out for Ajax. The Dutch league isn't very strong.

It is not as strong as our league but still some great players have come to England, Spain and Italy from this league so not really an issue. Van Nistelrooy springs to mind.
 
He's a decent player, no doubt, but you have to look at it in the context of a very weak Dutch league. He's consistently one of Ajax' better players but in order to make the jump from the Eredivisie to a club like United, you have to dominate the league like Suarez used to do. Lasse Schøne was named Ajax player of the year this season and he can hardly get a call-up for Denmark. I'm not saying he's a bad player but I cannot in any way imagine he'll improve us significantly. If we bough him, I'd assume it would be as a squad player. And I think we need to improve the first XI, not the bench.

We don't need 11 megastars in the team, we need a few and then players who can do a job and play the system to complement them.
Seems to me Blind has been playing well for Ajax and also for LVG too, looks like a tidy player, yes not a mega star but a young talented player who can do a good job in a number of positions. Sensible signing, he also already has the trust of the manager.
 
It is not as strong as our league but still some great players have come to England, Spain and Italy from this league so not really an issue. Van Nistelrooy springs to mind.
That's a long time ago. The league was much stronger back then.
 
We don't need 11 megastars in the team, we need a few and then players who can do a job and play the system to complement them.
Seems to me Blind has been playing well for Ajax and also for LVG too, looks like a tidy player, yes not a mega star but a young talented player who can do a good job in a number of positions. Sensible signing, he also already has the trust of the manager.
If we sell Fellaini and Cleverley, then fine, we'll need to strengthen the depth of our midfield. As things stand, what we need is a top-class midfielder, and that is not Daley Blind.

As a cheaper alternative to Shaw, I think he could make sense, but Shaw is probably in the bag already.
 
in terms of squad depth he (as well as Vermaelen) make sense. In all positions they can play, LB, CB, CM we then still need world class players in addition. Lets's say Shaw, Garay and Strootman and I would consider it an alomst perfect summer. Maybe we can get a winger too.
 
He's a decent player, no doubt, but you have to look at it in the context of a very weak Dutch league. He's consistently one of Ajax' better players but in order to make the jump from the Eredivisie to a club like United, you have to dominate the league like Suarez used to do. Lasse Schøne was named Ajax player of the year this season and he can hardly get a call-up for Denmark. I'm not saying he's a bad player but I cannot in any way imagine he'll improve us significantly. If we bough him, I'd assume it would be as a squad player. And I think we need to improve the first XI, not the bench.

That's fair enough, saying he's doesn't stand out for Ajax isn't.

I don't know if he's good enough for United but I really like the cut of his jib, especially in midfield. Exceptional intelligence, great left foot.
 
Suarez, Eriksen, Vertonghen more recently. So still applies.
Sure. I'm not saying there aren't any great players in the Eredivisie, I'm saying that you should always factor in the fact that it is not a very strong league when you consider a player's performances. And based on what I've seen at Ajax, I'm not seeing a player who stands head and shoulders above his teammates and opponents, I'm seeing a good, solid player who I'm not sure could do the same job against better opposition in a much higher tempo.
 
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If we sell Fellaini and Cleverley, then fine, we'll need to strengthen the depth of our midfield. As things stand, what we need is a top-class midfielder, and that is not Daley Blind.

As a cheaper alternative to Shaw, I think he could make sense, but Shaw is probably in the bag already.

Fellaini has been put up for sale if you believe the rumours, Anderson will probably be off too. We need CMs starters and sqauddies.
 
If we sell Fellaini and Cleverley, then fine, we'll need to strengthen the depth of our midfield. As things stand, what we need is a top-class midfielder, and that is not Daley Blind.

As a cheaper alternative to Shaw, I think he could make sense, but Shaw is probably in the bag already.

I am not certain that Shaw is in the bag. Evra has signed for 1 more year. Blind and Evra could easily be back up for each other. In addition I was really impressed by James in the last 6 months ( reserve left back)
Also Blind could be a good back up for Carrick. I agree we need a top class box to box midfielder (more defensive than attacking). We could also give Pearson and Rothwell some chance next year. We have enough players who can play the attacking role (Mata, Kagawa, Rooney, Januzaj).
 
It always amaze me how nations such as Holland manages to do well in the WC with a team mostly made up of 'average players' while England constantly fails to do the same with a star studded side filled with 30m rated players and White Peles.
 
Sure. I'm not saying there aren't any great players in the Eredivisie, I'm saying that you should always factor in the fact that it is not a very strong league when you consider a player's performances. And based on what I've seen on Ajax, I'm not seeing a player who stands head and shoulders above his teammates and opponents, I'm seeing a good, solid player who I'm not sure could do the same job against better opposition in a much higher tempo.

Of course and I can't say I have seen too much of Daley Blind but to win POTY in any league you must stand out in that league, then seeing him put in a performance like he did against Spain suggests he would do well in a better league.
But I agree he is not a stand out player and if being signed for midfield I would not be too happy, as a left back I would though especially if the Shaw deal falls through because as much as I love Pat, defensively he has been terrible plus Buttner who is also from the Eredivisie is just rather crap.
 
Did he play in the match against Spain, i can't recall seeing him in the match?

If he didn't feature then it would surprise me that LVG would bring him to OT.
 
It always amaze me how nations such as Holland manages to do well in the WC with a team mostly made up of 'average players' while England constantly fails to do the same with a star studded side filled with 30m rated players and White Peles.

There's part of the problem. Hype. Add to that players believing the hype and that's how you end up with the likes of Gerrard and Rooney performing as they do on the biggest stage. A collection of individuals who are mostly not as good as they're made out to be or as they think they are.

Barkley is now getting the Rooney treatment. And so it goes on.
 
Did he play in the match against Spain, i can't recall seeing him in the match?

If he didn't feature then it would surprise me that LVG would bring him to OT.

You gotta be kidding me.

Are you sure watched that match?
 
Did he play in the match against Spain, i can't recall seeing him in the match?

If he didn't feature then it would surprise me that LVG would bring him to OT.

Is this a serious post?

He assisted their first 2 goals with beautiful passes.
 
Did he play in the match against Spain, i can't recall seeing him in the match?

If he didn't feature then it would surprise me that LVG would bring him to OT.

He was man of the match!

Another signing that I can see people objecting to, but another of the type of player that LVG will see as essential to his system. He likes to balance his side out with left footers, the fact that he can play left back/wing back as well as DM means he can facilitate a mid game switch from 3 at the back to a flat back four (which would also explain the signing of Vermaelen, whoo can move over from LCB to LB at ease).

He and Vermalen mightn't set pulses racing as individual signings, but you acn absolutely see why LVG would want them.
 
If this means the end of the 30 million (or whatever it's become now) pursuit of Luuky Luuk.... I would be in rapturous delight.
 
He was man of the match!

Another signing that I can see people objecting to, but another of the type of player that LVG will see as essential to his system. He likes to balance his side out with left footers, the fact that he can play left back/wing back as well as DM means he can facilitate a mid game switch from 3 at the back to a flat back four (which would also explain the signing of Vermaelen, whoo can move over from LCB to LB at ease).

He and Vermalen mightn't set pulses racing as individual signings, but you acn absolutely see why LVG would want them.

Indeed, a lot of people have been saying how refreshing it is to have a manager with a clear philosophy that they want to install and now a lot of people are sceptical when he indicates the players he needs to fit said system/philosophy.
 
Sorry all, i had a blonde moment, i thought i was referring to Depay (spelling).

Of course i saw Blind, for some reason i was thinking of wingers, doh!!
 
It always amaze me how nations such as Holland manages to do well in the WC with a team mostly made up of 'average players' while England constantly fails to do the same with a star studded side filled with 30m rated players and White Peles.

It's almost as if these "average" players are coached and managed properly ...
 
It always amaze me how nations such as Holland manages to do well in the WC with a team mostly made up of 'average players' while England constantly fails to do the same with a star studded side filled with 30m rated players and White Peles.

They have 2 world class players and a world class manager, we don't.

RVP, Robben and Van Gaal.
 
I read Ajax value him at 6m euros. Sign him already, knowing Woodward though he will offer 5.9m!
 
By all accounts his truly exceptional form has come as a deep lying midfielder - positionally and tactically fantastic and a clever and incisive passer at short and long range. I think there'll be a lot of people in here eating their words in a few years time.
 
The question I'd ask about Blind is - why would be signing Blind when Shaw and Ricardo Rodriguez are gettable and better players too.

We wouldnt necessarily play him at Left Back. This will have no impact on us going for Shaw.
 
We wouldnt necessarily play him at Left Back. This will have no impact on us going for Shaw.

If we got both Vermaelen and Blind, it would make the Shaw signing far less of a necessity as it has appeared so far this Summer. You'd have Evra, Blind and Vermaelen all capable of filling in the position. The £30m saved on Shaw could be used to sign a top class midfielder, thus strengthening the area we are definitely weakest in.
 
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