Actually, the reference was a general one and your assuming differently does little to refute my point.
Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed
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Actually, the reference was a general one and your assuming differently does little to refute my point.
But doesn't appear to be in the mains. I'm not saying he's not a good player just not sure why hes gone below the radar for so long playing for a team that plays CL football. Its not like you cant buy players for reasonable money from the dutch league.
On a serious note, if he continues like this in the world cup, where does it leave the Shaw signing cause this would cost us less than half the numbers associated with the Shaw transfer?
I think I already said it on page 1 of this thread, but it's odds on Blind remaining at Ajax next season. He's about to become captain there, he needs to feel safe and comfortable to excel, he's born in Amsterdam, his dad played for Ajax, Daley went through all the youth ranks, etc.
Obviously the question still remains if he would turn down Arsenal or Madrid or something to stay at Ajax, who knows. He will be first choice CM for them next season which is his natural position, he played there too when Ajax beat Barca and in some other good matches, but was mainly used out of position on left back the last years.
So I imagine he wants to play a full season in midfield and see how that goes before moving to a better club.
Van Gaal has said Daley Blind is not ideal as a left back for Holland, and that's true. With 3 central defenders behind him it works really well, but in a 4-3-3 he's not a world class left back, so I don't really see why Van Gaal would bring him in unless he wants a multifunctional player.
All in all Shaw + Evra would make more sense, although Shaw is ridiculously expensive, but a real left back + Evra makes more sense than Blind + Evra for the left back spot.
I don't think he'd turn down working under Van Gaal at United. Van Gaal would make him feel wanted. As I said before, I don't think he'll be playing left-back for us so Shaw and Evra wouldn't be in competition with him. Even if we played with wing-backs, Shaw would be our starting left wing-back and Blind would be a part of the defensive unit in the holding role, filling in across the back four. Makes sense if van Gaal wants to have a backline that's good with the ball.
Well with Strootman still injured, LVG coaching at the World Cup using Blind and having a preference for bringing in Dutch players it makes sense if he would be interested in Blind, sure.
On the other hand Van Gaal wants to win the league, sees that Chelsea bring in Fabregas, City have Yaya and Liverpool have Gerrard. So he might want to bring in better players than Blind for our midfield. Especially considering Blind has a contract till 2016 so Ajax would ask somehwere between 12 and 20 million euro´s for him, so he wont be really cheap. I think there are going to be better players than Blind available, so that´s why I would be surprised if we sign him. Wouldn´t really mind it because he´s a decent player, but it just doesn´t feel 100% logical.
Blind looked good i must say. Great vision
Does one good game at a WC make him United quality or has someone seem more of him? For me it was the first time watching him.
Some here think he is even before his performance yesterday. I have never rated him highly and I still do not.
Wat?
Shaw is an 18 year old who plays only left back and has stood out as an exceptional talent since his debut. He's now had 2 impressive seasons in a top league.
Blind was a left back converted to DM and until this season at 24 has not looked like a player for a top club.
Shaw is 6'1 tall, physical, fast and a dribbler.
Blind is a passer
When it comes to left backs, they couldnt be much more different
Average player who played a good game
...against amateurish side.
That wasn't my comment.
I had a feeling his thread would have seen some activity, he had a good game against Spain, showed good composure and awareness as well as intelligent movement.
One ball made him the Caf darling for a day.
I'd sign him up to be honest depending on the price.
Yeah it may have only been one good game for Holland, but lets not forget, it was against Spain. Also won the Dutch player of the year this season gone.
I know you can say but the league is poor, bla bla bla, but most good players that come from there are a success in the Prem.
Now I wouldn't sign him to be a first team player, but if he can play DM and LB, it means we could ship off Buttner, and get rid of one more of our poor midfielders
Same happened with Clasie a few weeks back. I know we're desperate but 1 assist for rvp and we're talking about signing him even though that's the only time some have ever seen him.
Actually I think it was two assists that match and a very good, sound defensive performance against current European and World champions.
If people are praising to heavens likes of Barkley for beating up shower of shite like Norwich or Cardiff, then I see no reason why Blind would get any less attention.
Not that I'm a fan of Blind. He's impressed that match though.
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Fair enough, it was a great game both defensively and offensively from him.
But how many of us actually watch the Dutch league to reach to the conclusion that he's the one to replace Evra.
Anyway, I assume you have seen him more than me , is he a better left back or a CDM
Nah mate, I admit I've seen him for the second time really, first was some friendly NL played prior to the WC. I'm as clueless about him as it gets.
I agree with the opinion here that if we were to get him as a squad player instead of Büttner ( against who I hold no grudge, I like him as a matter of fact ) and as an emergency CDM and it all was for some decent price then I'd take him. Could be our utility man. Still, first-pick options would have to be bought.
He made two assists, and put it on a plate for Sneijder with a quick and incisive cutback that demonstrated great vision. He also put some fantastic sweeping balls across the box, right around the 6-yard line. I rated him before the game so it's just justification for me and increases my conviction he'd be a great signing for us. Real value for money and would be much more than just a squad player for us. I think Blind could be the fulcrum for any Louis Van Gaal side in the holding midfield role.
His performance was possibly the best of the tournament so far, in my opinion.
The reaction can only be deemed fickle from thise who didn't rate him BEFORE the tournament. Myself and a few others did
Also he is a better dm than he is a lb/lwb.
That is fine. Again I maintain quality players go without being signed ALL the time. Then when the odd one does get signed fans are shocked like they came out of nowhere. Watch players for yourself and form an opinion don't go off the opinions of others. I'm not even too fussed with people agreeing or being proven wrong but the attitude that 'if he was good someone would have signed him' is what annoys me about the modern fan. Hype/Media dictates lot of the transfer market and what goes on.
He wasn't even Holland's best player since Robben and Van Persie were better. Also in other matches there were the likes of Oscar, Neymar, Joel Campbell, Serge Aurier, James Rodriguez, Alexis Sanchez. So no.
Ah Jesus
He wasn't even the best Dutch player on the pitch.Why are you mentioning all the attacking players? Blind ticked every box and did more than was asked of him. It's interesting that Henry, a striker, had so much appreciation for Blind's performance.
He was henry's man of the match, so clearly it isn't obvious he wasn't the best player on the pitch.
Well I think Serge Aurier's performance last night against Japan was superior to Blind's
I don't see any reason why the purchase of Shaw would stop us from buying this lad. I'm sure if we are interested in him, he would be available for a reasonable price. If he keeps up this standard of performance throughout the world cup campaign, our interest might severely intensify.
I wasn't able to watch that game as I had to be up in the morning for church. I also don't know many of Ivory Coast's players to comment.
It all hinges on Shaw for me, having not seen Blind yet. I like what Shaw has and if you can solidify the left back spot for 5-10 years for 30m it would seem to me to be a good spend. IF LVG prefers to not pursue Shaw or if we can't cement the deal we are still going to need a LB.
Last summer many were on about Baines and now not a peep and now Blind seems to be on the front burner.
I wish it was opening day and all of this had been put to bed already.
Blind is a totally different player to Shaw and is primarily a holding mid. He fills in across the back line from that position. you can see it in his positional play for Holland. He's a very clever player, a fact not overshadowed by his great left foot.
If Southampton wanted extortionate money for Shaw, then we could buy Blind to play in a system using wing-backs just like Van Gaal's Holland but I don't think that's where Blind's going to end up playing. His vision, range of passing and tactical awareness make him perfect for the holding role.
Well that surely sounds like what we have been missing, thanks for the scouting report. I live in the states and we never get to see anything other than the EPL, CL and WC. I know I have seen the Orange play but it has been a long time since I have, and I rely solely on the positivity here regarding the appointment of LVG to get me through this early period of muppet season.
The fortunate thing is that just about anybody we bring in will improve this squad, and if LVG can sign a player, two or three such as you describe while getting the best of our current squad there is reason to be positive going in to the season.
Typical of the Dutch to be pessimistic about their talents. Most of them said Strootman was average before he joined Roma.
Strootman has no bearing on Blind.
You missed his point
I know exactly what he was trying to say. I was just saying that just because some people were wrong about Strootman does not mean those same people are wrong about Blind. They are completely different players and Strootman is of a much higher quality.
So you're ignoring his point just to say something totally irrelevant? He's saying that the Dutch have a tendency to downplay their own talent. This current Dutch squad is very underrated in general. You're the one needlessly comparing the two players when they play totally different roles to one another.
When you're building a team, you have a concept of the way the team will play as a whole, you don't say, oh well, Daley Blind isn't as good as Kevin Strootman, Juan Mata or Scooby Doo.
Would happily buy both Blind and Shaw.
Blind is named a seriuos contender in dutch newspaper de telegraaf today.
Unfortunately I know not much about him. Is it true that he was named player of the year in NED?
I heard he was moved from LB to CDM half way in the season. So his stats are not very meaningful, if they are ever.
pass succes rate 88% is good
145/208 long balls succesful
2.6 interceptions per game is very good but may be high because of his time at LB
1.3 key passes per game is also not bad
Unfortunately I know not much about him. Is it true that he was named player of the year in NED?
I heard he was moved from LB to CDM half way in the season. So his stats are not very meaningful, if they are ever.
pass succes rate 88% is good
145/208 long balls succesful
2.6 interceptions per game is very good but may be high because of his time at LB
1.3 key passes per game is also not bad
Would be a very underwhelming signing in my opinion. Don't think he ever really stands out for Ajax. The Dutch league isn't very strong.
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