Unbelievable yellow journalism from The Mail: 'don't vote for commie jewboy Ed'.
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You really have to go some to come out on the wrong side of public opinion when your opponent is Alastair Campbell.
Coming soon:
*Liz Jones visits Auschwitz
*Ed Miliband gives you Cancer
*Cancer gives you Ed Miliband
*Liz Jones visits Auschwitz
*Ed Miliband gives you Cancer
*Cancer gives you Ed Miliband
This was a completely purposeless debate. The Mail were talking rubbish here, but they've got every right to print it, even though this was an offensive character assassination, which was a bit too far on this occasion.
... and how much it's costing YOU.
It's a pretty questionable use of free speech to make up a bunch of stuff about a dead person who for obvious reasons can't defend themselves, in order to get at the son of that person.
Regardless it's backfired on them a lot anyway. Milliband's came out of it looking good and the only people who would be taken in by the story were hardly going to ever vote for him anyway.
Was this really the best way of trying to convince people that press-regulation isn't the way to go?
Im not strongly against press regulation but im not sure this is a particularly clear example of why we need it. Id be more convinced about press regulation to protect members of the public than prime ministers - or dead people. For me this is a question of taste: people should shun the Daily Mail because it is full of shit, rotten to the core sensationalist shite, which would in truth be better than any regulation.
I was thinking more that for people on the fence, it's certainly not going to bring people round to their point of view. Given that part of the reason they've launched it against Miliband is due to his support for Leveson, it seems a bit of a dumb thing to do and will bring it up again as an issue. They've been feckwits on quite a few levels.
You think that it is purposeless to call The Mail on this scurrilous bit of character assassination? It was nothing more than a "Foreign commie Jews come over here and dare to have an opinion. If you don't like it feck off home" piece.
Even more hypocritical criticising someone for a historical opinion when The Mail themselves were staunch Nazi supporters historically. Brilliant that they have managed to make the Tory conference a non-story while making Milliband a man of principal standing up against the bullying right wing press.
Made it to question 6 before being 'hated'. Does that qualify me for a "I'm the one the Daily Mail warned you about" t-shirt, or do I need to be more female and Muslim looking?
The Tory conference was so boring that it was never going to be that big a news story anyway.
And for what it's worth, I generally agree with you, and the public have every right to criticise the article. What I didn't understand was why on Newsnight, they discussed whether they were justified in printing it. It's an awful article, but it's the Mail's right to have it in there. Campbell just ended up getting a bit hysterical.
Having the right to do something is not the same as being justified in doing something. That should be obvious.
And came across as a bully. Awful man.
Presumably something like "Immigrant Ralph Milliband invented cancer".
Edit: So it appears that the Daily Mail sent a reporter to a private memorial service of Milliband's uncle yesterday to question relatives. Talk about digging holes for themselves!
Edit: So it appears that the Daily Mail sent a reporter to a private memorial service of Milliband's uncle yesterday to question relatives. Talk about digging holes for themselves!
Even by the Mail's standards I'm surprised they upped it another notch but turning up to the Uncle's memorial yesterday. You'd think that sort of thing would damage them more than it would Miliband anyway.
Can't understand Gove's intervention on this. Of course they have the right to print it but it's a horrendous set of articles that should never have made it to press, regardless of the paper's right to print them. If I were the Tories I'd stay well clear of this one - don't see what's to gain by sticking up for the Mail's right to print this particular piece.
Can't understand Gove's intervention on this. Of course they have the right to print it but it's a horrendous set of articles that should never have made it to press, regardless of the paper's right to print them. If I were the Tories I'd stay well clear of this one - don't see what's to gain by sticking up for the Mail's right to print this particular piece.
Gove's wife works for the Mail.
Did he forget to mention that?
Did he forget to mention that?
The MoS editor has unreservedly apologised for sending a reporter to the memorial service, so apparently the Mail Group believe that the line they shouldn't cross is not being disrespectful of the dead (that's still ok) but doing so at their own memorial service.
I know, but no one's asking him to join in the attacks. I would have just kept quiet in his shoes.
I find it more amusing how they've justified it. That Dacre believes having a less than positive opinion of the monarchy, the church and the army means you "hate" Britain. Because those 3 institutions are still what define Britain in 2013 if you're The Daily Mail. That and sexy kids.
Replace those 3 things with The NHS, The BBC and multiculturalism and they'd be the most treasonous Britain haters going.
Replace those 3 things with The NHS, The BBC and multiculturalism and they'd be the most treasonous Britain haters going.
This is pointless and won't achieve anything but putting it up here anyway, Campbell debating Dacre would be extremely fun to watch 
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Cleggy stuck the boot in with relish... but then they had a pop at him before the election.
Despite his Anglo-Saxon name, Nick Clegg is by blood the least British leader of a British political party, the son of a Dutch mother and a half-Russian merchant banker father.
His wife is Spanish, his mother Dutch, his father half-Russian and his spin doctor German. Is there ANYTHING British about LibDem leader?
Hes not German by any chance?
They're our equivalent of the Tea Party & Fox News. If you don't agree with our antiquated ideal of this country, you hate this country.
Why should Dacre come out and answer questions? He didn't write the thing.
He's probably got better things to do than just endlessly answer to boring protests about articles.
Because he's the editor and chooses their editorial line. What did you think an editor does?
At the Mail, I imagine Dacre is busy reading the next Kim Kardashian article
And because it's precisely the editorial line he takes with every petty campaign he undertakes. The controller of Radio 2 didn't ring Andrew Sachs, but the Mail still insisted she - and got her to - resign.
Live by the sword....
There is no such thing as next. On my brief forays onto the Mail Online I reckon they just have rolling, continuous articles about the Karhdashians, Miley Cyrus, Ben Affleck and his missus and Alec Baldwin and his missus. They never end, as such, they're just added to until they resemble a Ulysses-esque stream-of-consciousness masterpiece.
Paid-for puff apparently.
And because it's precisely the editorial line he takes with every petty campaign he undertakes. The controller of Radio 2 didn't ring Andrew Sachs, but the Mail still insisted she - and got her to - resign.
Live by the sword....
So you want him to resign?
Why? There's a massive problem in this country for people to be forced into resignation for something they didn't do, like in your example.
Dacre, and no-one at the Mail really cared whether she resigned or not. He just wants to sell papers. She should have remained in her post and waited for it all to blow over. Even the Mail forget about you eventually.