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Adopting Nazi slogans now to make a point, as highlighted by the NS and Telegraph today( http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...nds-recommends-nazi-slogan-arbeit-macht-frei/ / http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/media/2012/08/mail-online-unemployed-graduates-arbeit-macht-frei.


The German slogan “Arbeit Macht Frei” is somewhat tainted by its connection with Nazi concentration camps, but its essential message, “work sets you free” still has something serious to commend it. There is dignity to be gained from any job, no matter how menial, and for young people at the start of their careers, there are valuable lessons to be learned from any form of employment, whether that is on the factory floor, on a supermarket till or in the contemporary hard labour camp of a merchant bank or law office.
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'Somewhat tainted'?!?

Gott in Himmel...
 
Non-news story. People go at great lengths to disparage the Daily Mail and they often deserve it, but it's not as if the Nazis came up with the slogan is it?
 
mightberight said:
Non-news story. People go at great lengths to disparage the Daily Mail and they often deserve it, but it's not as if the Nazis came up with the slogan is it?
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Well, no, but it's extremely ill-advised - not to mention downright stupid - to use the phrase given the 'popular' perception of its antecedence.
 
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There are a million ways to make the point about work being good for people without drawing allusions to the forced labor and eventual extermination of millions of people. In fact it'd take an amazingly perverted approach to even consider doing so.

Though to be fair, Mein Kampf did have some bloody good ideas about self motivation.
 
Just on the subject of Mein Kampf, when i was a teenager I used to own a hard-back 1930s-printed copy of that book, complete with embossed golden swastikas and photographs of Hitler. I can't remember how I got hold of it, but I lent it to someone a few years later and never saw it again.

Might have been worth a few bob now.

It was an interesting read, and I remember thinking at the time that Hitler had been pretty clear about his intentions, if only people had taken the trouble to read it carefully.
 
Colin129 said:
So what about men wearing skin tight clothing such that you can see when they are getting excited?

I would expect that in the majority of cases there are sound scientific reasons for why they are dressed the way they are dressed.

Do you think the way that Moslem woman athlete was covered more or less from head to foot helped her perform to her best abilities?
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I still see women athletes winning medals who are wearing shorts and running vests. The bra and knickers trend is fairly recent, in the scheme of things.

I think the athletes from Saudi were simply not very good, as there is no tradition of women participating in sport in their countries. But I'm glad they took part.

I don't know if it's much about science, actually, I think it's about fashion, possibly comfort. I saw a runner who wore a full body suit (bright red), and I believe she did quite well. The male triathletes now wear more clothes than they used to - you used to see them on the bike and running wearing Speedos and nothing much else!
 
pennared said:
I still see women athletes winning medals who are wearing shorts and running vests. The bra and knickers trend is fairly recent, in the scheme of things.

I think the athletes from Saudi were simply not very good, as there is no tradition of women participating in sport in their countries. But I'm glad they took part.

I don't know if it's much about science, actually, I think it's about fashion, possibly comfort. I saw a runner who wore a full body suit (bright red), and I believe she did quite well. The male triathletes now wear more clothes than they used to - you used to see them on the bike and running wearing Speedos and nothing much else!
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The full body suits seem to retain heat much better, and keep the muscles in better shape throughout the huge ordeal. Going from swimming in cold temperatures to cycling and getting hot is tough on the body. You will definitely retain energy by keeping a constant temperature.
 
I'm sure athletes are proud of the bodies they've earned through all their hard work and want to show them off. Stands to reason the sexes would dress differently in this regard, just like you wouldn't expect to see men strutting round the beach in a bikini.

Obviously it's important their kit is appropriate for their sport of choice but I don't see why anyone should criticise athletes for wanting to look good.
 
The German slogan 'lebensraum' is somewhat tainted by its association with the Nazi invasion and destruction of central and eastern Europe. But there's no denying there's something wonderful about a well-designed living room. See Property on pages 4, 6, 9 11-23, 25 onward.
 
The phrase 'Heim ins Reich' is somewhat tainted by it's connection to the attempted racial purification of Nazi Germany, but there's no denying home is where the heart is, and a good domestic holiday is just the ticket in these times of austerity. So don't go away this summer, for our list of the best British Isles holiday packages see our new Anschluss travel section.
 
'The Jews may well be your misfortune, but that's nothing compared to our Liz Jones' bad luck with lazy shop assistants!'
 
There's little question that Adolf Hitler went too far in his all-consuming quest to make the trains run on time; or that, having made them run on time, he ought to have left it at that, rather than stuffing them full of Jews and connecting them - albeit logistically impressively - to a continent-wide infrastructure of enslavement and death. But that can never excuse the infuriating delays and sheer waste of taxpayer's money bequeathed us by Gordon Brown's PFI debacle.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I'm sure athletes are proud of the bodies they've earned through all their hard work and want to show them off. Stands to reason the sexes would dress differently in this regard, just like you wouldn't expect to see men strutting round the beach in a bikini.

Obviously it's important their kit is appropriate for their sport of choice but I don't see why anyone should criticise athletes for wanting to look good.
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Well Pogue, you may have hit the nail on the head - it's probably primarily about showing off their bodies. This explains why the shot-putters don't do it.
 
Plechazunga said:
There's little question that Adolf Hitler went too far in his all-consuming quest to make the trains run on time; or that, having made them run on time, he ought to have left it at that, rather than stuffing them full of Jews and connecting them - albeit logistically impressively - to a continent-wide infrastructure of enslavement and death. But that can never excuse the infuriating delays and sheer waste of taxpayer's money bequeathed us by Gordon Brown's PFI debacle.
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:lol:
 
Plechazunga said:
There's little question that Adolf Hitler went too far in his all-consuming quest to make the trains run on time; or that, having made them run on time, he ought to have left it at that, rather than stuffing them full of Jews and connecting them - albeit logistically impressively - to a continent-wide infrastructure of enslavement and death. But that can never excuse the infuriating delays and sheer waste of taxpayer's money bequeathed us by Gordon Brown's PFI debacle.
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:lol::lol:
 
Plechazunga said:
There's little question that Adolf Hitler went too far in his all-consuming quest to make the trains run on time; or that, having made them run on time, he ought to have left it at that, rather than stuffing them full of Jews and connecting them - albeit logistically impressively - to a continent-wide infrastructure of enslavement and death. But that can never excuse the infuriating delays and sheer waste of taxpayer's money bequeathed us by Gordon Brown's PFI debacle.
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:lol:
 
bsc said:
Adopting Nazi slogans now to make a point, as highlighted by the NS and Telegraph today( http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...nds-recommends-nazi-slogan-arbeit-macht-frei/ / http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/media/2012/08/mail-online-unemployed-graduates-arbeit-macht-frei.
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The slogan does have connections to the Nazi's.

However, to be honest, there is nothing particularly racist or deliberately racist about it's use in the context of the article. The slogan in its English translation is entirely appropriate for the article.
 
Jaz said:
The slogan does have connections to the Nazi's.

However, to be honest, there is nothing particularly racist or deliberately racist about it's use in the context of the article. The slogan in its English translation is entirely appropriate for the article.
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The context though is pretty inexcusable.
 
Jaz said:
The slogan does have connections to the Nazi's.

However, to be honest, there is nothing particularly racist or deliberately racist about it's use in the context of the article. The slogan in its English translation is entirely appropriate for the article.
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Did you miss all the other posts? It's ludicrous to suggest that it's "okay" because they use it in a different context. There can be no context for that phrase that doesn't involve Nazi Germany implicitly.
 
Such an ill-advised remark must have registered with the journalist responsible, or an editor. The Mail is so adept at deliberately winding its readers up, I wonder if the remark was purposely left in.
 
Tulisa: 'I'm an inspiration for Broken Britain'

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...e-urban-roots--glams-stunning-photoshoot.html

I've been inspired to kill myself.
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Weirdly nice of her to wear the same tracksuit she wore in her sex tape for the renownedly unslutty Heil.
 
The question is, can The Casual Vacancy ever live up to the hype?

On balance, I would have to say no. Not unless you want to have more than 500 pages of relentless socialist manifesto masquerading as literature crammed down your throat.

Not unless you happen to be, like J.K. Rowling herself, the kind of blinkered, Left-leaning demagogue quick to lambast what she perceives to be risible middle-class values, while failing to see that her own lush thickets of dearly held emotions and prejudices are riddled with the same narrow-mindedness she is so quick to detect in others.
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I like the book already.
 
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