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Have you read the book?

I'm no Jan Moir fan, but it really is dire. I got an advanced copy(oooh look at me) because I know someone at the publishers and she gave it to me as a gift, and it's quite possibly the worst book I've read in the last couple of years.

It's just incredibly slow and long, but it's not one of those books that gets better because the character depth is intriguing. It's insane - she just over complicates very mundane scenes.

I can only imagine her class perception is supposed to be ironic. The town residents are supposed to be the most evil people ever and the working man is like some kind of jolly Charlie Chaplin character. I'll give her credit and say it's irony - to be fair, I think it might be.

Weird book nonetheless. She should have stuck to Harry Potter.
 
I'm betting Moir's last Rowling-related article was probably about how Dumbledore died because he was gay.
 
paceme said:
Alastair hates it.....Daily Mail hates it......going to have to read it immediately.

Also, isn't it supposed to be partly a comedy? It sounds like the black humor has been completely lost on Moir....no surprise.
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It's really not funny. It's like how the One Show thinks it's really cool and witty. If it wasn't Rowling, it wouldn't have been published.
 
It would definitely have got an edit. The story could have been told in about 300 pages and the remaining 200 are simply unnecessary and interminable padding. I don't know if you can tell, but I'm not a massive fan. Tell me if you liked it though.
 
I think Rowling is a classic case of the British tearing down the successful tbh, as soon as she started to get really really big all these people started appearing who thought she was a terrible writer and that the books were average. This seems to have happened more now that those books are finished. This doesn't really have anything to do with this current book I just think it's an interesting thing that our culture does.
 
paceme said:
I think Rowling is a classic case of the British tearing down the successful tbh, as soon as she started to get really really big all these people started appearing who thought she was a terrible writer and that the books were average. This seems to have happened more now that those books are finished. This doesn't really have anything to do with this current book I just think it's an interesting thing that our culture does.
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They've been saying that for yonks. Blatant rip-off of Tolkien.
 
I'm no Harry Potter fan, but how on Earth is that a Tolkien rip-off? Technically, the entire fantasy genre is a Tolkien rip-off. But then, Tolkien is pretty much a mythology rip-off.

What I'm saying is, that's stupid.
 
She's a charming lady though as was showed when she was on the Daily Show quite recently.

She's not a cnut like Jan Moir for example.
 
to be fair, to most Daily Mail readers both Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are probably regarded as evil purely because they are actual books as opposed to bigoted rants vomited onto a page then called "news"
 
niMic said:
I'm no Harry Potter fan, but how on Earth is that a Tolkien rip-off? Technically, the entire fantasy genre is a Tolkien rip-off. But then, Tolkien is pretty much a mythology rip-off.

What I'm saying is, that's stupid.
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Think about it for a minute. Think about the characters in Potter then take a look at the main players in LOTR. Then tell me it's stupid.
 
Excal said:
On the one hand, Rowling's not really a Tolkien rip-off, but on the other hand, Rowling's not really a particularly good writer, either.
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I dunno. I read LOTR and The Hobbitt when I was a wee lad. There are far too many similarities to discount the rip-off theory. Dumbledore/Gandalf; Potter/Frodo; Voldemort/Sauron and so on.

Now, I confess, I haven't read all of the Potter books, only those my nephew lent me. I though the writing was very poor and compared to Tolkien, barely literate. Now this is only my own opinion and I'm obviously biased towards Tolkien, but I found little originality in the Potter stuff I read. But, if it encourages kids to read books, then I suppose it's not a bad thing.
 
Moriarty said:
I dunno. I read LOTR and The Hobbitt when I was a wee lad. There are far too many similarities to discount the rip-off theory. Dumbledore/Gandalf; Potter/Frodo; Voldemort/Sauron and so on.
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Oh come now, kindly old mentor/youthful protagonist/massive evil was hardly groundbreaking even in Tolkien's day.

Now, I confess, I haven't read all of the Potter books, only those my nephew lent me. I though the writing was very poor and compared to Tolkien, barely literate. Now this is only my own opinion and I'm obviously biased towards Tolkien, but I found little originality in the Potter stuff I read. But, if it encourages kids to read books, then I suppose it's not a bad thing.
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I didn't mean to say Rowling was a particularly original writer. Her books were formulaic in the extreme, and the formula repeated itself every book. Just that there's really not any direct link between her and Tolkien.
 
Excal said:
Oh come now, kindly old mentor/youthful protagonist/massive evil was hardly groundbreaking even in Tolkien's day.
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We're going to have some fun with this. I never thought of Galdalf as a kindly mentor; in fact, I always thought that Saruman had a point when he said that Gandalf used people for his own ends. But Tolkien was far more than that. He was pretty much a creator of myths.


I didn't mean to say Rowling was a particularly original writer. Her books were formulaic in the extreme, and the formula repeated itself every book. Just that there's really not any direct link between her and Tolkien.
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So she says, but then she would, wouldn't she? ;) But, going off-topic a minute, did you ever read that story about the IMDb poster that moaned about Peter Jackson ripping off Rowling. Almost peed myself laughing when I read that.
 
Moriarty said:
So she says, but then she would, wouldn't she? ;) But, going off-topic a minute, did you ever read that story about the IMDb poster that moaned about Peter Jackson ripping off Rowling. Almost peed myself laughing when I read that.
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It won't top the people who was complaining about Peter Jackson naming one of his movies "The Two Towers" in an attempt to "capitalize on the tragedy of 9/11."
 
The bastards.

I watched the ad and I have no idea why anyone would complain.
 
Why does the Mail feel this is news?.This is what Girls in some schools are wearing , and only 19 complaints.
 
The Daily Mail only support sexualisation of young girls when it's to sell the daily mail.
 
PJ said:
The Daily Mail only support sexualisation of young girls when it's to sell the daily mail.
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:lol:They carry enough stills of her and they are running more pics of that lass in a bikini from I'm a Celebrity than any other paper by a mile.
 
I think it should be a rule that people can only post their dumb facist pedo baiting wummery as long as it isn't actually a link to their own site.
 
Excal said:
Oh come now, kindly old mentor/youthful protagonist/massive evil was hardly groundbreaking even in Tolkien's day.



I didn't mean to say Rowling was a particularly original writer. Her books were formulaic in the extreme, and the formula repeated itself every book. Just that there's really not any direct link between her and Tolkien.
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I actually liked that it was somewhat formulaic it's kind of emulated that school year stuff quite well really.

I fail to see any correlation between her work and tolkien that you couldn't make with any book/story if you try hard enough.

she doesn't have to be a great writer, she had a great story to tell, if she didn't it wouldn't have been as popular.
 
Priceless stuff from long-suffering Liz Jones; surprisingly, her column isn't about Liz's experiences in Auschwitz, but the hell-on-earth that is 'living in the country':

Even from the first week, it was a nightmare. On the very first night my rescued pony arrived, sight unseen, he developed asthma.
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When I learned a local councillor had donned a black wig and bought a tin of Illy coffee to impersonate me on a float for the annual carnival, I put my house on the market.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...e-Now-flees-city-bids-ferocious-farewell.html
 
SteveJ said:
Priceless stuff from long-suffering Liz Jones; surprisingly, her column isn't about Liz's experiences in Auschwitz, but the hell-on-earth that is 'living in the country':





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...e-Now-flees-city-bids-ferocious-farewell.html
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Some dodgy lines in that piece.

Then I discovered everything in the countryside is more expensive: you have to drive miles to even find a shop. Dinner for two is still about £70 and if you tell the waiter you are vegetarian, you are stared at, incredulously, as if you are black.
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I will float around like Laura Bailey in my Cath Kidston prints, baskets of sweet peas in my arms. I’ll have huge log fires and hack for miles across the open moorland in my Prada jodhpurs.
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I had Phil Spencer – of TV’s Location, Location, Location – breathing down my neck. I’d employed, in a rush of insanity, his property search firm to find my farm for me. (blah, blah,blah condensed for humanitarian reasons)

Incidentally, the house was cold and had been left by the delighted vendors with a broken Aga, no light fittings and was absolutely filthy; they had even dug up and taken plants from the garden. But Phil Spencer wanted his £46,000 – and he wanted it now!
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But the problem was that everyone assumed I had money and decided they wanted to take it from me as swiftly as possible.
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I got half way down and gave up. What a self absorbed idiot!

Moaning about people assuming she has money, and trying to take her money, in the same article in which she admits paying somebody £46,000 to find her a home. :lol:
 
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