Yes, DM, it's obviously a good idea to break-up the NHS & sell the nation's healthcare services to private companies. Excuse me, there's a runaway train heading for my house...
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I didn't think the NHS was really a political issue. Both left and right seem to be generally in favour of it, but tend to differ on how it should be run. That article is ridiculous, but it's an obvious WUM from the Mail again. I still prefer it to the Guardian.
if you want to know how bad private health care can get...just look at the US.
unless you are going after the Swiss model....but can you trust Cameron?
Well you would, wouldn't you?
I'm really looking forward to my London trip just so I can wipe my arse with an actual copy of the Daily Mail...picked up from the tube for free, obviously.
Yeh, most people in this country do.
I buy the Mail each day for my mum...who's resultingly convinced that paedophiles lurk 'round every corner and that bin Laden tried to steal her identity.
Was this twunt really expecting a completely improvised 3 hour long opening ceremony?
you might get aids mate.
Or cancer - it is the Mail, after all.
Believe me, the NHS is the biggest political issue on any potential Prime Minister's agenda. It's been systematically abused by both parties for political expediency over the last 25 years. I was very thankful to walk away from my long (but ultimately very frustrating) NHS career when I did.
I'm about to see it first hand as I'll be in St. Thomas' for a lot of the next two weeks. I'm looking forward to telling my tea party neighbour how great it is when I return.
As soon as I saw they had a mixed race couple, I wondered how the right and the DM were going to respond to it.
Even if the Guardian is a bit shit these days only an utter cnut would prefer the Mail.
What? No.
You know what I mean, Mike. I'm not standing up for the Mail here at all
The Graun can be insufferably smug, particularly it's free online edition and it has an irritating habit of promoting the vacuously hip and trendy, over more valuable culture. But it's one of the last remaining 'newspapers', that has at least retained a degree of journalistic inquisitiveness. The impenetrable Indy, FT and Private Eye are the only other papers that really aim to inform. The Telegraph will do the odd story but the paper is the perfect example of the dumbing down of print media, driven by dwindling circulation figures.
The Daily Mail remains an ill informed shrieking attention seeker. It doesn't care, or even pretends to care about news journalism. It knows it's audience and sells them what they want to hear. To do anything else would just lose it money.
The Daily Mail remains an ill informed shrieking attention seeker. It doesn't care, or even pretends to care about news journalism. It knows it's audience and sells them what they want to hear. To do anything else would just lose it money.
It depends what you get out of a newspaper. I don't really read them for hard-hitting news coverage anymore, and consequently the Mail is my preference for sheer bizarre opinions, wonderful exaggeration, and just general hilarity.
The Guardian is for students and is insufferable to read.
Have you considered the fact you might just be an old woman Al?
Yeh. But then I came to the conclusion that I just hate the very left wing, which might still make me an old woman. There's worse things to be.
Is there much that can be described as 'very left wing' in Britain today?
The majority of the Caf.
A majority of the caf was seemingly against the scale and speed of the Tory cuts, but they look to have been proved right now don't they?
He's probably gone off the carve 'the right is always right' into his arm at the sight of you daring to confront him with such 'far left bullshit'.
A fair proportion of the Caf support the EU and no doubt some of those would have had us in the Eurozone...
A fair proportion of the Caf support the EU and and no doubt some of those would have had us in the Eurozone...
I don't remember joining the Euro ever having been particularly discussed on here? Also, I'm not sure how easily the Europe issue fits on the left-right divide.
To be fair if you click on best rated comments, they are all saying the article is a spiteful disgrace. The worst rated was some nutjob attacking Great Ormond Street. More people are well aware of their agenda- more than are given credit for in this thread.
A fair proportion of the Caf support the EU and and no doubt some of those would have had us in the Eurozone...
And what on Earth is 'left wing' about that?
The Caf is out of tune with normal society, there's no getting round that, no matter how hard people on here try to convince themselves it isn't true.
The majority are low IQ Sun readers.
It's probably in line with what would be expected for the demographic. There are a lot of young males, with some sort of northern connection.
Football fans are usually sound unlike golfing, racing and rugby-playing twats. The caf always strikes me as very conservative with a small 'c'.
It does surprise me that we still get threads debating the morality of being gay and things like that. I can't remember the last time I met someone who thought that kind of thing was even up for discussion anymore.
Yeah the cause celebre among us enlightened types is now cannibalism
Perhaps. As far as anyone can hope to define the majority outlook, or the 'normal' as you call it, any internet forum is likely to be rather out of line with it. Redcafe, however, is certainly not 'very left wing'. In fact I've hardly seen a single poster who could be said to be properly left wing. Here's a tip: 'left-wing' doesn't mean anyone to the left of Norman Tebbit, as much as the contemporary Right likes to think and claim as much.
I'm not sure we've had a single thread concerning some despicable crime or other without at least one person more or less seriously arguing for death by torture in the legal system.
Oh, I think there's a few. peterstorey is probably the most left-wing regular poster on the site, though.
Actually, I'm quite in tune with Norwegian society. Where we have free healthcare, gays can get married, there's no death penalty and you're not allowed to own an automatic rifle. I'm sure you'd find some political party to suit you, though, because we've also got more than two and a half political parties.
pete is still a proper leftie, most of us are capitalist sell-outs of one sort or another.
That's absolutely right, though it has got a bit better over the years, people really used to get into describing their torture fantasies, with balls being torn off and bleach poured in eyes and stuff.
I think the Caf has got more liberal, especially on sexism and homophobia. We used to spend the whole time calling each other benders and gay and shit in a 'banterish' (cnutish) way, not many do now... I guess we grew up a bit along with the culture.