After Moyes, LVG and now Jose, we United fans are fast becoming experts on the matter. How sad.
D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing
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After Moyes, LVG and now Jose, we United fans are fast becoming experts on the matter. How sad.
Because Man Utd is the only club he's managed that the picking of players to sign is left to the manager.
Don't see how he can get sacked this weekend now, if the club have come out and said they're backing him then they can't then turn around and bin him off hours later without looking ridiculous, even for our own current standards.
It's like they seem to throw off £400m on signings (or whatever it is) as if it's nothing.
People said Moyes would need the best players In the world to have a chance, but it's like Jose hasn't got a chance unless he can outspend everyone!
Christ, the lengths some will go to defend this parasite. Absurd.
You must have heard the phrase "vote of confidence". It next to always comes right before the sack, which is why it usually has the word "dreaded" preceding it.
Our football is not defensive. It's just crap. There's a big difference.
In the summer you could understand it, but after this joke of a season, and all the rows and the whole stench of negativity it's impossible to see how he can stay much longer.
Seems it's up in the air now anyway. For all the uproar I think most would've wanted it to happen...at least before they found out it was crunch time.
Usually when these rumours happen and the club comes out 'backing the manager' it's one or two losses away from happening isn't it?
Personally don't think Jose can claw this back. His doesn't have the abilities required to do it. All he has is stubbornness and that's not gonna help anything.
If the players aren't responding what can he possibly do now to instil the required motivation into them? You need the set up to be inspiring and for everyone to enjoy and believe in what they're doing for that to happen. That's the real United way, and it's also what's seeing City, Liverpool and Chelsea have success in games.
Usually when these rumours happen and the club comes out 'backing the manager' it's one or two losses away from happening isn't it?
Personally don't think Jose can claw this back. His doesn't have the abilities required to do it. All he has is stubbornness and that's not gonna help anything.
If the players aren't responding what can he possibly do now to instil the required motivation into them? You need the set up to be inspiring and for everyone to enjoy and believe in what they're doing for that to happen. That's the real United way, and it's also what's seeing City, Liverpool and Chelsea have success in games.
If Mourinho isnt getting the results, there isnt much to fall back on.
If football would be more pleasing to the eye...
If he would take blame some time...
If he would smile more often...
If some players looked like progressing...
If he publicly treated players better...
If he had a recognisable style of play he works to...
If it wasnt already his third year...
A lot of ifs...
For me I would just get rid of him for not smiling enough. I dont like people eho look like sour grapes 24/7
True but here it's just very surprising to see someone suggest that Tuchel, Kovac, Valverde and Lopetegui were winners on the day of their hirings.
No it’s not. And with all due respect this past summer he didn’t get to ‘pick’ the players he wanted.
Jones is fit?
I'll repeat it. Ed is a shit and should not be anywhere near the football side. That said, Mourinho is simply not the manager to take us forward. He is simply not.
Manchester United have signed 11 players under Mourinho, how many have been successful?
Mourinho also met players at United, how many have improved under him.
Regardless of your opinion of Ed Woodward and the board, MOURINHO NEEDS TO GO!
Manchester United have signed 11 players under Mourinho, how many have been successful?
Mourinho also met players at United, how many have improved under him.
Regardless of your opinion of Ed Woodward and the board, MOURINHO NEEDS TO GO!
I don’t buy this crap about his negative style. Fans wouldn’t give a shite about negative style if it stopped City winning the league.
So you're telling me Ed Woodward bought Fred, Dalot and all the other players we have bought under Mourinho without Mourinho asking for them?
OK. KEEP SHOUTING. WE’LL LISTEN EVENTUALLY.
You said that, not me.Jones is fit?
He's had 5 windows to sort the squad.
He's brought in two £30m defenders - one of whom has been a disaster, and one who has shown some promising moments but has had massive dips too. Neither really look what is needed.
Where did I tell you that?
You have just highlighted the issue though - it is both results and style that are missing.
He might survive if he'd been producing one of them.
Maybe that’s because we aren’t competing at the top end of the market.
How can he demand backing from them when he's been slagging the board all pre-season? The guy's ego is something else.
Unlike Sir Alex, he has no vision for the club, so why should we back him and stick with him?
I get that. I just wouldn’t write him off just yet.
He didn't. Bring your proof.
Point taken but it still seems like a needless thing to come out with if they really are sacking him no matter the result, they know it's just going to make them look worse, we'll see I suppose.
The club will continue to back him until the moment we fail to qualify for the CL which is a certainty as it was under LVG and Moyes. Neither of them got sacked until it was official. Same will happen with Jose. The board are even more clueless than the manager.
But is hasn't, so the negative style does become important.
The problem with hiring a results-first manager is that if he doesn't get the results he brings little else to justify his appointment.
He didn't get all the players he wanted the same way it happens to all the managers in the world. But of the players this club has signed, they have been requested by Mourinho.
That's already more influence than he's had at any other club. At those clubs, the DoF decids on transfers .
To be fair, as soon as you say anything about not getting the signings you wanted and select sides to prove the point, you are not exactly giving the board praise.
Someone on here got it right.
Say nothing - and everyone will believe he's going, so they had to say "something".
Either way it's a right old mess.
You can't believe a win against Newcastle really changes anything either, as they are pure gubbins.
Does it really matter though? If Mourinho does get sacked the fact that United denied it on the day of a game will be a relatively minor part of the overall story.
I believed that for long time, but I think things are way too toxic for that now, can't see hm lasting that long.
But he didn't. He did say that he wanted 2 but expects 1, that he knows Ed does the best for him and if it's not possible to get any players we want we should keep fighting and believing in what we have. Hardly slaughtering here.
The board and Jose have now been backed into a corner and quite clearly the whole situation is toxic and is only going to end one way, whether that be today, tomorrow or in the next week or so.
With the upcoming international break I can see the phrase "By Mutual Consent" coming into play.
With the upcoming international break I can see the phrase "By Mutual Consent" coming into play.
It's football, it's ruthless.
You don't hold off making millions of pound decisions because a manager might look a little hard done by. Never cry for a sacked Man Utd manager - they'll be rolling in it after!
Yeah, when i hear the 2 x 30M defenders i can't understand how people think.
We were second to a team whose manager bought 4 x 50M to 60M defenders and people are going on about 2 defenders that we bought for 30M and wanting him to compete with city.
A lot of us thought this a few weeks ago, but there's no way when we're briefing the press that the sack is imminent, that we'll somehow be holding on until Feb at the earliest!
He can bluff the board all he wants. They will sack him if results don't improve massively. We are tenth after giving him £400m to spend and some here are saying it's because we didn't sign Alderweireld. Utter tosh.
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