D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing

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Horrific new developments. Well done Neville, if he played a part in the retraction.
What makes you say retraction rather than McDonnell was wrong? Surely the latter is much more likely.
 
As far as I know, there's been no quote from the club, if Jose truly had the board's backing there would be an official statement. The timing sounds about right too ahead of the international break to give them some time to negotiate and hire a manager.
 
Yes they should have given Moyes 6 years to turn is into Everton.

They shouldn’t have appointed him. But whoever they appoint should be for the long term and given time. They are incapable of seeing past the next financial year. Moyes was a ‘cheap’ appointment, more short-termism. They could give him six years knowing full well it would cost very little to end that deal.
 
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@JPRouve what's your suspisikn on what the meeting was about? I simply refuse to believe what Dan Roan said is the whole truth.

I agree with you, every reports add a little something that makes the whole thing nonsensical. Why would you have a meeting with the manager just to tell him that he is safe, why would you talk about "imminent" threat?
Then there is the reports that says that they didn't meet to talk about the manager's position, the one that initially talked about the sacking and the ones claiming that the club refuses to comment.

They either all know something or they don't know anything, either way we can't trust any of them.
 
As far as I know, there's been no quote from the club, if Jose truly had the board's backing there would be an official statement. The timing sounds about right too ahead of the international break to give them some time to negotiate and hire a manager.
Exactly what I'm thinking. Too much smoke not to be a fire. Jose is done.
 
So,lets just presume that United will release Jose tonight.Who do you think the club will bring in ?

And will that individual be on a temporary basis or full-time ?

Instead of waiting for a reply, turn your laptop or phone upside down and work backwards through the thread.
 
Replace a manager who is a serial winner, with someone who can't win and is happy not winning?
Please explain this logic, because I am all ears.
Look at how he has developed Spurs in the short time he has been there. I’d prefer a holistic way of doing things at our club, academy youth development etc. for long term success. He also favours attractive football as a bonus.

How can you not want this? :confused:
 
I agree with you, every reports add a little something that makes the whole thing nonsensical. Why would you have a meeting with the manager just to tell him that he is safe, why would you talk about "imminent" threat?
Then there is the reports that says that they didn't meet to talk about the manager's position, the one that initially talked about the sacking and the ones claiming that the club refuses to comment.

They either all know something or they don't know anything, either way we can't trust any of them.

The De Gea reports make sense and his agent is Mendes anyway.
 
What makes you say retraction rather than McDonnell was wrong? Surely the latter is much more likely.
Not too sure, was commenting on the thoughts of some posts which said the Neville rant may have changed the club's mind. I agree that's unlikely.
 
What I really don't want is a new permanent manager.

I want an interim, til the end of the season. And then, while that guy (Carrick, Hiddink, whoever the feck) sees the season through, I want a DoF and a restructure of the board so that football decisions are made by football people. And Woodward can sign as many noodle sponsorships as he wants

Bless you for passing over the fact that the word prenuptial appears inexplicably in the middle of my post. Think it was an autocorrect that ought to have read "potential".

I find it hard to imagine the club appointing a caretaker for 8 or 9 months. I can see the sense in what you're suggesting - I will be pissed off in the extreme if we end up just appointing whoever is the most famous manager who happens to be at a loose end when Mourinho goes, and would be very encouraged if it seemed like some serious long term thinking going into transforming our performances on the pitch.

The counter argument is that many incoming managers will need time to transform the team - seems like that was the case with Liverpool's and City's most recent appointments, and also, albeit in a failed way, van Gaal. There's probably some sense letting a new manager hit the ground running next season. In the other hand I guess Sarri is showing that you needn't necessarily write off the first year though and that rapid transformations are possible.
 
Mourinho can be sacked by end of the season 8 months later and the guy will come and claim his source was right.

If he's not sacked this weekend then he's simply a fraud.
No he isn't. He's reporting what someone has told him.
 
On the other hand if Jose is sacked before our next game - McDonnell deserves huge credit.
 
Dreaded vote of confidence then so he’ll be gone soon. It’s basically what every club says just before sacking the manager
 
I thought the wording of this retraction was interesting by us.

It wasn't 'we're going to stick by the manager etc' it was a 'we've not made any decision'. I think that speaks volumes.

With regard to the leak, no it doesn't look good on the club at all. It didn't when LvG got sacked, and it doesn't now. It's a difficult one as it may not be necessarily Woodward's fault someone in the board has leaked it, but at the same time if that conversation has taken place, just do it now! The board have essentially made a rod for their own back by delaying.
 
After that apart from Liverpool we have a run of technically speaking 'easy' games. You could just see them clinging onto the hope that we pick up in December. It is never-ending.
There are not easy games for United at this point. Before the season started most were predicting we'd start the season unbeaten with the "easy" fixtures, apart from Spurs but even that would normally be a win. Jesus, I get more deflated every time I think about our start to the season and what we have coming up in the next 7 matches.
 
Presumably the club don't want to give credence to rumours and gossip.

Do you see how quickly RM and Bayern shut down any nonsense that comes out of their club - we need to take a leaf out of their book.
 
Do you see how quickly RM and Bayern shut down any nonsense that comes out of their club - we need to take a leaf out of their book.
Downside of that approach is if they don't deny rumours in the future, everyone assumes it must be fact.
 


If this is false information, we could be seeing a man's career destroyed. His confidence is immense and it would be unprecedented in sports journalism for someone as respected as him to come out and say this if it was false.
 
If the sacking doesn't happen this guy will lose all credibility.

But if he does... hell be tier 1 imo. Hell then get three managerial sacking scoops. Moyes, LvG, Jose.
 
Downside of that approach is if they don't deny rumours in the future, everyone assumes it must be fact.

I get what you're saying but I feel we need to just nip certain things in the bud. Our name is in the press far too much recently it's not a good look.
 


That Mirror quote on LVG getting sacked after Stoke game, which we lost 2-0, just proves that they are absolute frauds.

Everyone know this is Mourinho last season. They're just jumping into it and as I said, even if he's sacked next year the fraud will come and say his source was right.
 
If this is false information, we could be seeing a man's career destroyed. His confidence is immense and it would be unprecedented in sports journalism for someone as respected as him to come out and say this if it was false.

That's a good point. The fact the he went live tv to stick by his story suggest that his source is rock solid. But Sam Lee said as much yesterday.
 
That Mirror quote on LVG getting sacked after Stoke game, which we lost 2-0, just proves that they are absolute frauds.

Everyone know this is Mourinho last season. They're just jumping into it and as I said, even if he's sacked next year the fraud will come and say his source was right.

Depends who writes for the Mirror. Mullock and McDonnell are reliable journalists.
 
There are not easy games for United at this point. Before the season started most were predicting we'd start the season unbeaten with the "easy" fixtures, apart from Spurs but even that would normally be a win. Jesus, I get more deflated every time I think about our start to the season and what we have coming up in the next 7 matches.
I am dreading the next seven games. It could be a pleasant surprise, but more likely we will have to sit through a mass humiliation. :(
 
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