D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing

[Catt]

If they really are backtracking then we are in a bigger mess than I initially thought.

Or just that the club never intended to sack him this weekend at all.

 

[Loon]

Gary Neville's rant made the board backtrack? He couldn’t even motivate the Valencia team! Dipshit from The Mirror got it wrong more like.

 

[arthurka]

It's cloud-cuckoo land to believe that Pochettino is going to abandon Spurs mid-season, especially shortly after signing a new, 5 year contract, to take charge of the mess left by Mourinho if he's sacked.

Fully agree with you .

 

[Loon]

I only wish Neville had named Woodward.

 

[Paxi]

They should just bite the bullet and sack him now.
He's not a long term solution and things seem to be getting worse instead of better. It looks like he has lost most of the dressing room and I can't see that turning around.
What's the point in keeping him on? We couldn't do any worse under a caretaker manager/new manager so why delay the inevitable?
The atmosphere around the team is toxic at the moment and I can't see it improving until Jose is gone.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Not sure how I feel about Poch.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

I only wish Neville had named Woodward.

He more or less did.

 

[Greck]

I can't imagine the club could care less about what anyone does or does not say on here.

Didn't say they did. Reread. I'm addressing serial moaners on here. Club is in a lose-lose situation with such people

 

[J_XO]

Ah surprise surprise, already seen backtracking with suggestions that he won’t be sacked - yet. How can they make up false stories like this and then when proved wrong just carry it on.

 

[Borden]

I hate so much about the things we choose to be.

 

[peridigm]

We'll get hammered in those games, regardless. They are just far better sides and even a new manager bounce won't be enough to get us through unscathed. Not a great start for the new man (whoever he is). Better to let the current guy take the mass criticism and humiliation (if you've already decided he's for the chop anyway).

I disagree. We're not in a position to afford throwing away 4 matches. Granted, Jose could get results in those 4, but we can't ignore our lack of form when making the decision either way. I want to say the board aren't that stupid but I don't believe that at this point. A new manager will be given temporary relief in terms of expectations given our current form and position.

Besides, those 4 matches aside, we could go without a win in all of our next 7. Today's match against a relegation bound New Castle has me nervous.

 

[sincher]

Who?

Genuinely interested, I'd want the likes of Klopp and Pep over those, but that's never happening.

Yeah a few are unrealistic, like Pep, Klopp or Tuchel, but I would prefer Simeone, or Blanc, or Deschamps. Maybe even Conte, though I am not sure he would improve the spirit in the right way. Zidane I actually don't really know much about.

I just have my doubts about Poch making the step up in terms of club size and exposure. Suspect he would be happier and do better where he is.

 

[Adisa]

Jesus Christ! Wtf does "for now" mean? He's not the man, get rid .

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Yeah a few are unrealistic, like Pep, Klopp or Tuchel, but I would prefer Simeone, or Blanc, or Deschamps. Maybe even Conte, though I am not sure he would improve the spirit in the right way.

I just have my doubts about Poch making the step up in terms of club size and exposure. Suspect he would be happier and do better where he is.

Why would you want managers who play terrible football. We need a lift, not more boring football.

 

[J_XO]

Not sure how Jose can turn things around at this point. We look like we have no plan or desire this early in the season which is a big worry. I think it’s more likely for Ed to hold onto him until it’s mathematically impossible for 4th than it is for Jose to get sacked now. The circus goes on

 

[Paxi]

Jesus Christ! Wtf does "for now" mean? He's not the man, get rid .

What it means really that they've no idea themselves - the United hierarchy. We're a mess. We've not a fecking mission until that ballbag Woodward fecks off.

 

[MrBest]

So basically he was about to be sacked which is what everybody wanted.

Except most people starting shouting "club is a shambles" "were a mess" "not very classy" etc.

So the board read this and think ah shit they dont want him sacked... give him more time.

I personally dont give a feck how he is sacked, what goes round comes around. He was a classless prick himself more often than not.

So agree with you on this. How he is sacked means nothing but the decisions after that in the club need to change.

 

[J_XO]

Tonight’s headlines will be how Jose is to be backed after a great reception at OT in a dramatic turn of events.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Tonight’s headlines will be how Jose is to be backed after a great reception at OT in a dramatic turn of events.

They always cheer at first, but if the football falls into the usual pattern it can get ugly. I still think they will win, but it is the games after the international break that could be a big problem for him. Which is too late.

 

[Infra-red]

I disagree. We're not in a position to afford throwing away 4 matches. Granted, Jose could get results in those 4, but we can't ignore our lack of form when making the decision either way. I want to say the board aren't that stupid but I don't believe that at this point. A new manager will be given temporary relief in terms of expectations given our current form and position.

Besides, those 4 matches aside, we could go without a win in all of our next 7. Today's match against a relegation bound New Castle has me nervous.

I agree that Newcastle is not a given. They're well-organised and Arsenal, City & Chelsea only managed to beat them by a single goal. 0-0 draw would not be a big surprise.

 

[The Cat]

I agree that Newcastle is not a given. They're well-organised and Arsenal, City & Chelsea only managed to each beat them by a goal. 0-0 draw would not be a big surprise.

This is what I am expecting.

 

[Judas]

We could go someway to saving our season if Jose is binned off before the games after the international break.

 

[J_XO]

They always cheer at first, but if the football falls into the usual pattern it can get ugly. I still think they will win, but it is the games after the international break that could be a big problem for him. Which is too late.

I get the feeling it will fall into the media’s hands after a decent performance. But I agree, those games coming up look like potential disasters

 

[witchtrials]

Southgate in for temporary role.

He would be a great new character in the Manchester United Universe!

 

[ZenMaster Coltrane]

Whatever one may say about the Abramovichs of this world, they generally act decisively and ruthlessly without this weak tea briefing to the media, attempting to cover all their bases. They have the international window. If you're going to do it, the time is now.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I get the feeling it will fall into the media’s hands after a decent performance. But I agree, those games coming up look like potential disasters

After that apart from Liverpool we have a run of technically speaking 'easy' games. You could just see them clinging onto the hope that we pick up in December. It is never-ending.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Should have known that story was to good to be true, should never trust the mirror but still live in hope.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

Bizarre though. Why announce it now? Why not just sack him on say, Wed or Thurs? Or why not just wait until Sundya and do it.

Seems a weird thing to leak prior to the game.

 

[redshaw]

United have looked pretty open recently. I could easily see a series of poor finishing and a counter attack or error giving a 1-0 win for Newcastle. Still I think we'll make the breakthrough and get the win, not that it makes much difference.

I'm looking at the whole of October to see if we cut Jose loose.

 

[Greck]

Bizarre though. Why announce it now? Why not just sack him on say, Wed or Thurs? Or why not just wait until Sundya and do it.

Seems a weird thing to leak prior to the game.

It wasn't announced, or at least the rumour was of a leak. There's a usage difference between a leak and a briefing.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Horrific new developments. Well done Neville, if he played a part in the retraction.

 

[Adisa]

@JPRouve what's your suspisikn on what the meeting was about? I simply refuse to believe what Dan Roan said is the whole truth.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Bizarre though. Why announce it now? Why not just sack him on say, Wed or Thurs? Or why not just wait until Sundya and do it.

Seems a weird thing to leak prior to the game.

1. Club didn’t leak it

2. International break coming up gives us time to reset and get a new coach in quickly.

3. No quick games coming up needing to plan for, the next period is huge so the trigger needs to happen now, otherwise you wait until after - could be too late.

 

[BrianMcClair'sBarnet]

After that apart from Liverpool we have a run of technically speaking 'easy' games. You could just see them clinging onto the hope that we pick up in December. It is never-ending.

We've had a run of technically speaking easy games recently and,well,that hasn't exactly gone to plan.

After tonight now is as good a time as any to relieve Jose of his duties.

 

[Rory 7]

This is only true to an extent. In general, until Mourinho's antics, they have unconditionally backed every manager to the hint, giving them a football manager esque experience and freedom to do whatever the feck they wanted to.

The leadership has been poor, no doubt, in part in their selection of disappointing managers. But it's also true that they've generally given the managers all the resources and decision making power (until summer 2018).

They have not given any of these managers the most important commodity; time.

 

[BrianMcClair'sBarnet]

So,lets just presume that United will release Jose tonight.Who do you think the club will bring in ?

And will that individual be on a temporary basis or full-time ?

 

[Vadim]

He's live on BT Sport now (McDonnel) saying Jose is definitely going to be sacked soon.

 

[Gentleman Jim]

McDonnell just been on Savages BT show sticking to story. May be a few days while a successor is locked down but the outcome will be the same.
We'll see.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

They have not given any of these managers the most important commodity; time.

Yes they should have given Moyes 6 years to turn is into Everton.

 

[Escape Goat]

Not sure how I feel about Poch.

He's a very handsome man, but not sufficiently so to make me leave my wife. Maybe if he lost a few pounds...

I expect many think the same.