D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing

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Well they strongly denied him being sacked so I'm assuming he will be in charge after international break. We would be just fecking totally stupid to strenuously deny the story on a technicality - i.e. the weekend.

Not strongly, apparently they said to the AP he wasn't under immediate threat, that's still a threat.
 
I hope to God OT doesn't cheer him today. It is totally misguided. Stop listening to Neville/the press and think for yourselves. Regardless of the board, Jose is doing a terrible job and that should not be forgotten! It is the main issue after all.

It's funny, they didn't have a problem disrespecting LVG with their Mourinho scarves and booing the man mercilessly. Yet he never disrespected the club like Mourinho, and this is the disgraceful man that Neville and some fans want to be treated with dignity when he's shown this club feck all respect?

Completely puzzled by our fans at times.

"Fans have too high expectations", "Man United shouldn't dwell on past glories" -- these were LvG's statements. This isn't disrespect?

I hated LvG's comments far more than Jose's football heritage rant. At least Jose is leaving behind a better squad than LvG's, he's not as bad as the latter.
 
What a pathetic mess if we've got cold feet, when everyone wants him gone. So Jose wants out, the fans want him out, and the club do too, and yet....he remains.
 
How has he thrown anything away? As soon as it's denied they just claim it was going to happen but now the club have bottled it according to "sources". There's no risk for them. Look at the bloody transfer rumours, they just make shite up and never have to justify it.

He said it will happen this weekend. If it doesn't then he loses credibility.
 
Ideally you get it all done between games.

So manager loses, story of him being sacked breaks, it's announced that he has left the club, we move on to the next game with either the new manager or an interim appointment.

What isn't good is having the story break just before (or in Van Gaal's case during) the next game, forcing the manager to go through the charade of a game (and the awkward accompanying interviews) when everyone knows he's doomed anyway. Or as in Van Gaal's case having to deal with the stories just after he's actually won a trophy for the club.

Between games, before games, after games.....it's all the same as it equals failure and uncertainty. It's funny how we now are talking about the timing of it, rather than why? Hats off to Jose's people if it's 'leaked' by them as the focus is now back on the club, and away from him. Gary feeling 'sorry' for Jose after spending half the time lambasting his football? The worlds gone mad and football is full of hypocrites. Yep always feel sorry for managers that are rewarded with 6-8 million pound pay offs for failure. Most of us end up with a months wage and a trip to the benefits agency....Never understood how the richest managers in football, are the ones that fail the most, cause they get paid huge amounts for failure (early) only to walk into another job....how many pay offs Moyes has had for feck all? He must have 10m in his account since being sacked here....
 
They said hes not under immediate threat. By way of timing and the fixtures ahead, the only time to sack is after Newcastle (if that's what they're intending to do).

The club statement is just a shit attempt at damage control I reckon. Trying to calm the media from anymore bad words today before the sack thereafter.

If he's not here after Newcastle then our briefing to press association was worthless. Well get absolutely slaughtered for that as well. I can't see him going now for at least another couple of games after Newcastle today.
 
The man is a terrible manager for a club that aspires to win things. The whole story about him telling Rio to watch videos of Jagielka is prove enough for a keen observer of football that he's a mid table PL manager at BEST.

The correct diagnosis is "We should never have appointed Ed Woodward CEO". The fairy dust from SAF never existed. It's a DOF and a manager/coach. That's the model in modern football.

We didn't get the whole story though, only Rio's side of it, and everything is done by video analysis now any way, absolutely everything.
 
Too late. Gaz Neville has rallied the masses. You can sense it just from reading this and the other thread.
One other reason why we're in so much turmoil. We as fans also share some responsibility. If I were the board I would go ahead and sack him anyway, and let Neville bitch as much as he wants, and endure the boos of the fans, because it's the right bloody thing to do to get rid of this toxic man.
 
What a pathetic mess if we've got cold feet, when everyone wants him gone. So Jose wants out, the fans want him out, and the club do too, and yet....he remains.

We didn’t want to upset Gary Neville
 
He said it will happen this weekend. If it doesn't then he loses credibility.
He said a "source" told him, now they are saying it was going to happen but they've put it off. They've already changed the story to one where they are always in the right without having to back it up. "I was going off the information I was given by a trusted source." It will have no effect on him, it never does.

That's the thing though. Before the board backing story broke this morning, they began running a live blog to follow the 'action' of his sacking throughout the day in the lead up to the match. Whether the story happens as they published it originally or not, they were absolutely certain they had been given accurate information.
Or absolutely certain it would get them millions of hits?
 
Not strongly, apparently they said to the AP he wasn't under immediate threat, that's still a threat.

Now senior sources at the club have strongly denied to Press Association Sport that the Portuguese will be fired this weekend.

From Mirror live updates. It's them who are saying they strongly denied. Ah well. Whatever. They still denied it and therefore they can't sack him now until at least he fecks up further.
 
So rumours going around that Jose's agent was the leak on him getting the sack, now the board are claiming (via BBC tweets) that they will back the manager.

This is a circus. If anyone is interested, Newcastle are $9 to win tonight. :lol::(
 
He said a "source" told him, now they are saying it was going to happen but they've put it off. They've already changed the story to one where they are always in the right without having to back it up. "I was going off the information I was given by a trusted source." It will have no effect on him, it never does.


Or absolutely certain it would get them millions of hits?

Journalists live and die by their sources. As I said he wouldn't have put the original story out there if the source wasn't solid. He did the same with LVG.
 
Wouldn't be all surprised if they wanted to sack him this weekend but after Neville's rant and possible fans backlash, they have gotten cold feet.

The state of this club atm.

While I agree that he has to go but I did not like how LVG was fired and would not like to see Jose going THAT way. "The state of this club atm." is my thought also. Embarrassment of a club living on past glory.
 
"Fans have too high expectations", "Man United shouldn't dwell on past glories" -- these were LvG's statements. This isn't disrespect?

I hated LvG's comments far more than Jose's football heritage rant. At least Jose is leaving behind a better squad than LvG's, he's not as bad as the latter.
Nothing he said there compares to Jose's blatant disgusting Sevilla rant and his subsequent dig at players, fans and board. Jose is a cynical bastard. Sorry, I'm in total disagreement with you here.
 


These reports are frankly stupid. They are basically saying that he is under pretty big threat but also that he isn't under immediate threat. They are playing both sides here, I suspect that they have been told that the club wanted to control the timetable.
 
Journalists live and die by their sources. As I said he wouldn't have put the original story out there if the source wasn't solid. He did the same with LVG.
They really don't. People will still buy the papers or click on the stories without reading who even wrote it. In football people believe what they want to believe. There's no journalistic standards or integrity in the English football media.
 
I'm willing to take bets that Jose will still be here in 3 games time.

The club is a fecking joke. We were clearly going to sack him but then they got cold feet.

Quivering fool - Woodward is. Shouldn't be anywhere near Man Utd.
 
Yeah I don't dispute that Mourinho stands to gain from this. Makes his backers look even more foolish instead!
It isn't as straightforward as pro-Jose and anti-Jose. The mess at the club isn't as simple as Jose - good, Woodward- bad, there a numerous levels of feck ups happening at all levels from players to board. Making it a binary situation seems naive to the point of stupidity.
 
Backed or not, is there much point keeping him here? The players clearly don't want to play for him.

For every game we win were gonna be shit in another one.
 
I'm willing to take bets that Jose will still be here in 3 games time.
I think he's lost the players, but imo, it's typical MUFC. We will sack him when top 4 is dead.

We do it all the time. This time, Jose's agent thought it would be a good ploy to boost favourability in the short term.
 
Think how weird the mood will be if we win today, how the feck has it come to this?
I bet we lose today? Imagine the players thinking he's gone, then he's not:lol: What the feck does that do to your preparation?
 
One other reason why we're in so much turmoil. We as fans also share some responsibility. If I were the board I would go ahead and sack him anyway, and let Neville bitch as much as he wants, and endure the boos of the fans, because it's the right bloody thing to do to get rid of this toxic man.
Spot on mate, can't disagree at all. Guess we're resigned to more of this crap.
We didn’t want to upset Gary Neville
Sorry state of affairs :rolleyes:
From Mirror live updates. It's them who are saying they strongly denied. Ah well. Whatever. They still denied it and therefore they can't sack him now until at least he fecks up further.
Another soured weekend then? Oh well, guess we can bite the bullet and wait some more.
 
Has it been announced The Mirror and all affiliated with them have been banned from Old Trafford yet?

As soon as you thought about it last night, the more likely it was going to be that it would be denied, irrespective of whether it was even true. The Mirror forced the club's hand in that respect.

Of course it could have simply been another blatant lie, one of many and yet some fans, embarrassingly so at this point, so driven by irrational hatred, that they'll believe anything that supports their agenda.
 
I'm willing to take bets that Jose will still be here in 3 games time.

They should just bite the bullet and sack him now.
He's not a long term solution and things seem to be getting worse instead of better. It looks like he has lost most of the dressing room and I can't see that turning around.
What's the point in keeping him on? We couldn't do any worse under a caretaker manager/new manager so why delay the inevitable?
The atmosphere around the team is toxic at the moment and I can't see it improving until Jose is gone.
 
I hope to God OT doesn't cheer him today. It is totally misguided. Stop listening to Neville/the press and think for yourselves. Regardless of the board, Jose is doing a terrible job and that should not be forgotten! It is the main issue after all.

It's funny, they didn't have a problem disrespecting LVG with their Mourinho scarves and booing the man mercilessly. Yet he never disrespected the club like Mourinho, and this is the disgraceful man that Neville and some fans want to be treated with dignity when he's shown this club feck all respect?

Completely puzzled by our fans at times.

Yeah, you can bet they are going to do just that, especially now that Gary has spouted his usual guff.
 
I understand not wanting to go down the road of changing managers every couple of seasons, I don't want that either, but not sacking Moyes? Come on. He was seriously out of his depth. There was absolutely no signs of him being able to manage United. Nothing. None. Zero.

There were no obvious signs in their first few years with Sir Matt and SAF either.
 
I am glad they are not sacking him this weekend, if true. I was ashamed of the club last night, and although the last 24 hours have done little to relieve me of my concerns moving forward it was no way to go about sacking the manager.

Jose Mourinho's best days as a football manager are certainly behind him, but I absolutely guarantee you that Woodward will botch a new managerial appointment and the cycle will continue. Best thing about this latest mess is Gary Neville's rant bringing Woodward to the public eye in the mainstream media. These decisions need to be made by footballing men, not bankers. Nothing will chance with the club having the current set-up it does. The club is a disgrace and the Glazer mafia will continue to run it as is.
 
It isn't as straightforward as pro-Jose and anti-Jose. The mess at the club isn't as simple as Jose - good, Woodward- bad, there a numerous levels of feck ups happening at all levels from players to board. Making it a binary situation seems naive to the point of stupidity.
The situation isn't binary, far from it. However the supporters have largely been divided into 2 vocal groups as such, and that was my original point
 
:lol:Football fans have the shortest memories

The performances under Van Gaal in 2016 were much worse than 2018 under Mourinho

0-0 haltime. Zero shots on target

Even I had had enough
Yeah, the Valencia game was very different! We had one shot on target at half time so not even comparable!
 
They really don't. People will still buy the papers or click on the stories without reading who even wrote it. In football people believe what they want to believe. There's no journalistic standards or integrity in the English football media.

I'm one, but I'm sure there are others who will literally never believe a word the guy says now after this. For a guy that was up there with the country's best journalists, this is going to be devastating to his career and life in general if it's found to be false. If it's been leaked to him, he better be exceptionally sure of the source. I mean, it's still his fault for believing it but I have great sympathy for what he is about to go through if proven wrong.
 
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