Then explain to me, what's the best way of sacking a manager?
D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing
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McDonnell is finished. No one is going to believe a word he says again. People only remember your last story and he got this one horribly wrong. Point being, don't drink something like this unless your information is absolutely 100% rock solid.
He's probably not.
I have checked the Mirror update again and found absolute nothing to suggest that it's coming from Mendes. Both yesterday and today are coming from "senior figures" in the club.
But people will love to believe what suits their mind best though. They will interpret anything the way they like.
But people will love to believe what suits their mind best though. They will interpret anything the way they like.
Don't do it while they are celebrating an FA cup, that's pretty much my only rule.
Not by having it leak to the press the day before a game. Should have just sacked him after Valencia.
I have no doubt in my mind that someone from the club or Mourinho's camp told him.
Club wouldn't deny that Mourinho and Mendes were in London yesterday to meet Ed. The info is that the club have denied he'll be sacked this weekend. Doesn't mean they are not discussing a settlement.
Phil Jones is first on that list.
....I know they could have waited till they had at least left the stadium lol
How are we sure it's the club's leak?
8am and it lasted 3 minutes. They have been open battles with him calling them out for weeks now. You know fine well how petty and twisted they can be, look at the way they go after Sterling. They are free to make up any shit they want and never have to justify it. The more unstable we are the better it is for them.“we pissed them off with the press conference” Come on.
It's no more outlandish than the people claiming that it's all some sort of scheme by Jose and Mendes to get sacked.
Mirror saying the figures at the club told them they have had enough yesterday but apparently this is Mendes leaking for some.
I doubt people even read articles.
I doubt people even read articles.
Doesn't matter though, does it? In fact, that makes it even more concrete - Ed has decided to sack him, but not "immediately" - could be by the end of the week.
Note what the Beeb says in its briefing:
Means they haven't denied it. Only postponed the inevitable, likely by a few days.
A lot of them spend a long time building up credibility. The journalist who was one of the early ones who broke LVG was the same behind this report. They wouldn't throw their buildup of credibility away for an early presser ffs.
That mendes tweet from Hayley McQueen was from 2016Mirror saying the figures at the club told them they have had enough yesterday but apparently this is Mendes leaking for some.
I doubt people even read articles.
Yup, it's a well known strategy of his.
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How many journos can you remember ever being affected by getting stuff wrong?
Ideally you get it all done between games.
So manager loses, story of him being sacked breaks, it's announced that he has left the club, we move on to the next game with either the new manager or an interim appointment.
What isn't good is having the story break just before (or in Van Gaal's case during) the next game, forcing the manager to go through the charade of a game (and the awkward accompanying interviews) when everyone knows he's doomed anyway. Or as in Van Gaal's case having to deal with the stories just after he's actually won a trophy for the club.
It also means that they know absolutely nothing.
He’s been stealing a living for a long time and living off of a fantastic past reputation.
The guy is a toxic personality that is dragging our club through the mud. He’s fallen out with most of the players and has us playing the most boring football of every top club in Europe. So yes, a fraud!
Ah, the 'United Way'. Sticking with a manager even if he's rubbish and not performing. Meanwhile, Bayern, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea and the other big clubs ensure that if someone isn't doing their job properly, they're sacked.
Do we want to be a force in domestic and European football? The days of a manager staying 20+ years are long gone. No club sticks with their manager for more than 3 years these days.
Keeping Jose doesn't help anyone, it will just get worse.
Do we want to be a force in domestic and European football? The days of a manager staying 20+ years are long gone. No club sticks with their manager for more than 3 years these days.
Keeping Jose doesn't help anyone, it will just get worse.
I hope to God OT doesn't cheer him today. It is totally misguided. Stop listening to Neville/the press and think for yourselves. Regardless of the board, Jose is doing a terrible job and that should not be forgotten! It is the main issue after all.
It's funny, they didn't have a problem disrespecting LVG with their Mourinho scarves and booing the man mercilessly. Yet he never disrespected the club like Mourinho, and this is the disgraceful man that Neville and some fans want to be treated with dignity when he's shown this club feck all respect?
Completely puzzled by our fans at times.
It's funny, they didn't have a problem disrespecting LVG with their Mourinho scarves and booing the man mercilessly. Yet he never disrespected the club like Mourinho, and this is the disgraceful man that Neville and some fans want to be treated with dignity when he's shown this club feck all respect?
Completely puzzled by our fans at times.
The article doesn't read as a Mendes leak at all. It's obviously someone at the club made a mistake and leaked it to the prees and the club had to move on now and say nothing in it. It's still probably true, but it's not from Mendes.
So the leak wasn't from the club then? What will Neville say now?
According to the journalist who got the leak it was.
Well they strongly denied him being sacked so I'm assuming he will be in charge after international break. We would be just fecking totally stupid to strenuously deny the story on a technicality - i.e. the weekend.
And we’ll hopefully get rid of retorts like ‘clueless’, ‘plastic fan’ etc. Works both ways mate. The condescending nature of the Mourinho ‘in’ crowd has become nearly as toxic as the man himself. I have no problem with anyone who defends him and puts up a fair, rational argument. It’s the ones who stoop to sarcastic bollox with no basis for their arguments that really bother me. I’ve had some great rational debates with some of the ‘in’ crowd and conversely I’ve seen some absolute guff and people insulting other posters because they want him gone.
Both sides have idiots of course so I wouldn’t deny that. But certain posters have taken their defense of him to all new levels even though there’s literally zero positives in keeping him. But hey, hopefully the new manager will make us both happy eh bud
A leak from the club doesn't mean that it's a controlled leak. I knew about leaks that simply were loose mouths.
There are no doubts about that part
I remember the day Moyes got a standing ovation, fans were even giving him hugs. I wanted the floor under me to open up.
What are you talking about here ?
How has he thrown anything away? As soon as it's denied they just claim it was going to happen but now the club have bottled it according to "sources". There's no risk for them. Look at the bloody transfer rumours, they just make shite up and never have to justify it.
Too late. Gaz Neville has rallied the masses. You can sense it just from reading this and the other thread.
No but this is very different. This is one of the country's most trusted journos saying something will definitely happen. It's the kind of thing that will now affect his life for decades of it's wrong. It's like a top guy at the BBC reporting the Queen's death. It would be career suicide to be wrong.
They said hes not under immediate threat. By way of timing and the fixtures ahead, the only time to sack is after Newcastle (if that's what they're intending to do).
The club statement is just a shit attempt at damage control I reckon. Trying to calm the media from anymore bad words today before the sack thereafter.
That's the thing though. Before the board backing story broke this morning, they began running a live blog to follow the 'action' of his sacking throughout the day in the lead up to the match. Whether the story happens as they published it originally or not, they were absolutely certain they had been given accurate information.
They don't, but the briefings indicate Ed has reached boiling point. Giving a statement that he will sack Jose and then saying "not immediately" can only mean postponement to avoid further circus (ironically creating a circus by such briefings anyway). It's impossible that Ed wanted to sack him and then thought "oh feck it, Gary Neville doesn't like that" -- Ed is flaky, but not completely off his rocker.
We'll win today then two more weeks at least of agony.
Wouldn't be all surprised if they wanted to sack him this weekend but after Neville's rant and possible fans backlash, they have gotten cold feet.
The state of this club atm.
The state of this club atm.
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