I've seen the BBC article but everything else seems to suggest he's gone. To be fair in his press conference he did look really drained - actually it was a very different presser to the last few where he's tried to be more upbeat etc.
D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing
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I gained some slimmer of hope that Woodward has wised up a bit.
Well that hope is gone if Jose still remains manager past the weekend.
Well that hope is gone if Jose still remains manager past the weekend.
I don't understand the timing at all. If he's going to be sacked regardless of the result, why not just do it before the game? If they believe he's lost the dressing room, why risk a poor result against Newcastle?
It shows there’s enough hysteria that the board must comment and so it is intrinsically linked to a manager who is getting close.
But, that logic makes sense if we end up sacking him in a couple weeks or months. You can’t say we back him and sack him 12 hours later.
Even look at Steve Bruce recently. I don't follow Villa, but everyone was fairly sure he was getting sacked. Saw a clip of their last minute penalty that was missed and before he took it the commentator said something like this could save him from being sacked.
Playing staff wise? No
Let's be honest. Current Pool of talent is a lot stronger than 2016
Pogba or Schneiderlin anyone?....
It's funny as the analogy is, it's like being unhappy in a relationship and wanting it to end. When you start talking about it ending, there's a reality that actually you don't, you just want to feel happier. I wanted Jose to go but the alternative is what at this point of the season? Jose doesn't help himself though and the football (the most important thing) is absolutely and painfully dire. I can forgive him for lots of things, I can blame some of the players too but this issue has been the case long before some of the current stuff.
OK so the pool of talent is a lot stronger but the performances are just as bad. What does that tell you
If it is true that Mourinho has survived then the end result is that this Newcastle game is probably the United game I have been least interested in for years. Bad enough to be out of the title race already but a stay of execution just leaves these games as part of the extended limbo we'll be in until the decision is inevitably made.
Way to feck up my morning, best night sleep I've had in a while and now this. So the circus will continue!? I do not think I have been more upset by the club/manager/team in my 33 years supporting and I'm including the previous two managers.
Sack him in classy manner, then. It doesn't change the potential dithering.
I have no ill feeling towards Jose. We should definitely handle his sacking in a dignified manner. Still makes me weary of us being slow and combersome as we are in everything we do.
If the news turned out wrong, Mirror should be absolutely be banned from here for good.
Howard Nurse is yet to confirm Mourinho as our manager, never mind be up to date on this story.
The BBC trumps everything else
People keep calling us a badly run club in sacking and appointing managers but remember how City appointed Pep while Pellegrini was still in charge?
I don't think we are a greatly run club but the way we handle firing and hiring (maybe not the process of selecting one) appears to be normal.
I don't think we are a greatly run club but the way we handle firing and hiring (maybe not the process of selecting one) appears to be normal.
Are you the only smart fan around? Stop calling others idiots because they have an opinion. You have one which people are reading doesn't make it right.
Also 20 mil is nothing? Are you seriously frickin kidding me! As for why people are talking about his salary when they aren't paying him - why the feck do you care if he is being sacked? He isn't your family. You haven't recruited him or firing him. So stop the fkng nonsense about calling fans idiots just because they aren't adhering to your views.
Is it 12 million or 26 million he'll get?
Spot on.
Only because they belatedly confirm stories which have usually been broken elsewhere. How many big story exclusives have the BBC broken in the past two/three years?
Agree with that. Only a disgusting newspaper and news reporter publishes something like this if it isn’t based in fact.
If this story is true , it shows to me how far the club has fallen . As a business , there is no doubt Utd currently are among the best in terms of revenue ( though for me , much of this is down to the continued legacy of the golden eras of SAF and before ) I do think though that potential sponsors , and lets be honest sponsors form a huge part of revenue nowadays , will start to look at more stable clubs to invest in should this current cycle of sacking managers in such a classless way continue .
Im no particular Jose fan , his treatment of players has been discracefull at times , but for me there is far more wrong at the club than meets the eye . It seems to me that woodward carries far too much power for the good of the club and with no repercussions on himself . May as well be teflon . Directly involved in the appointment of Moyes , LVG and Jose . yet not willing to let any see out their contract .
Im glad Gary has come out and said what loads of people have been thinking . It wont change things one bit , but its good to know people do care about a club and its fans . If i were a Utd fan i would be very concerned about the next 4 or 5 years , the club needs stability and that seems to be a dream at the moment
Im no particular Jose fan , his treatment of players has been discracefull at times , but for me there is far more wrong at the club than meets the eye . It seems to me that woodward carries far too much power for the good of the club and with no repercussions on himself . May as well be teflon . Directly involved in the appointment of Moyes , LVG and Jose . yet not willing to let any see out their contract .
Im glad Gary has come out and said what loads of people have been thinking . It wont change things one bit , but its good to know people do care about a club and its fans . If i were a Utd fan i would be very concerned about the next 4 or 5 years , the club needs stability and that seems to be a dream at the moment
Football fans have the shortest memoriesThe performances under Van Gaal in 2016 were much worse than 2018 under Mourinho
0-0 haltime. Zero shots on target
Even I had had enough
You aren’t going to make a sacking dignified enough for everyone to be all happy about it. Bite the bullet and do it.
Or as it seems, back him till the inevitable failure of CL happens. Which makes zero sense but hey we will be richer but poorer at the same time.
Or as it seems, back him till the inevitable failure of CL happens. Which makes zero sense but hey we will be richer but poorer at the same time.
I'm not sure on this one. There's too much smoke from elsewhere, maybe the BBC have been thrown a line by the club to try and not look like complete twats.
Nothing that I can remember - I find the BBC only useful for putting a 100% stamp on news that is already widely known.
If true, you can bet on another listless performance.
BBC don't break. They only move when they have official information, and that makes them more credible tha any other source
They're not about breaking stories but that means they only really print/broadcast stuff that is credible.
The likes of The Mirror (the source for this thread) literally invent stuff for clicks.
Is it not possible that in Jose's desperation to walk away from the mess he's created that this leak came from his side, in the hope we'd just pay him off, but we're not playing ball atm.
Fair fetched, but I always thought that Mirror reporter was one if the better ones, and you don't just pull that story from thin air.
Fair fetched, but I always thought that Mirror reporter was one if the better ones, and you don't just pull that story from thin air.
I think it was fabricated by a Gary Neville faction at Sky to reassert his relevance amidst the ongoing Carragher-Neville rivalry.
Would love if there was a twist and the Glazers came out on Monday and said "Ed Woodward and Manchester Uniteds representatives have agreed to end Woodwards association with the club with immediate effect. Manchester United would like to take this opportunity to thank Ed for his tireless work on the commercial opportunities, bringing in the lucrative noodle and tractor sponsors. But Manchester United is a football club, not an advertising firm, so we have decided to focus on what made this club great, great football".
But we know the Glazers are as inept about it as Woodward, so it won't happen. It'll be more like, "Jose gone... new deal with mens hair dye manufacturer".
But we know the Glazers are as inept about it as Woodward, so it won't happen. It'll be more like, "Jose gone... new deal with mens hair dye manufacturer".
This saga is extremely painful. I expect he won’t be sacked this weekend though I would expect he’ll be gone around Christmas.
Honestly, as much as I think he is the wrong manager for us part of me wants him to stay as I fear we’ll bring in someone even less suited. Whispers about Conte, who is basically Jose mk 2, are absolutely uninspiring.
Honestly, as much as I think he is the wrong manager for us part of me wants him to stay as I fear we’ll bring in someone even less suited. Whispers about Conte, who is basically Jose mk 2, are absolutely uninspiring.
I fecking hate all this.
These worthless cnuts just write whatever bullshit they can dream of every 3 days and nobody seems to be keeping them in check.
These worthless cnuts just write whatever bullshit they can dream of every 3 days and nobody seems to be keeping them in check.
If i were to be so lucky
You guys are amusing, you basically believe everything and go from one side to the other for absolutely no good reason. Just wait 48 hours, you will know the truth.
Jose out!
People don't want to admit that the problem lies deeper because it will mean there's no short term fix and we'll be in this shite for several upcoming years so we should convince ourselves it has been ony managers' problem.
There is a chance we will win today, so they might not fancy sacking him if we win. The next game Chelsea away, if it is another bad result could be a different matter, because they are the level we are supposed to be.
That's true. I'd like to see it handled well, to be honest. But no matter what the club do there's going to be resentment from some with regards to his treatment. I mean, he's picked a lot of fights. It's very hard for it to end of a happy, smiling note given the mood and performances.
If it's not true then Sky are also absolute mugs. Commenting on a clickbait story does nothing for them.
Yep, we kicked the press in the balls for years. Every time they've attempted to suggest we were finished, SAF proved them wrong the following season....they couldn't wait for him to go and now the vultures are constantly circling. Whilst I hate the style of football, I would hate even more the fact the press had any influence in sacking him. In fairness, getting to second was a painful watch at times but it was some achievement nonetheless. The big problem though is Jose doesn't help himself. He picks fights which you can only win, when you are winning football matches.
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