D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing

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Red_Ramirez said:
I feel for the next manager

Who'd want to run this circus full of clowns plus the extreme pressure of the ABU media and idiot fans
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Why do you feel for Jose? Spent £300m and earning £20m compensation.

Extreme pressure? Do you think Madrid, Bayern or Barca take it easy on managers. Even Chelsea seem to have higher standards than us these days.
 
Flytan said:
Would rather him be sacked regardless of how it's done. Cannot believe he's still here after the way he's acted this season.
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same. We might be able to save something from the season if we remove the toxic environment mou has created surrounding the club
 
VeevaVee said:
Gary Neville fuming on Sky Sports here.

A leak is bad but I’m not sure it’s as bad as he’s making out.

The rest of the what he’s saying is bang on though.
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It is needed, but our club has lost it's class. That went with SAF and David Gill unfortunately. It is now any publicity is good publicity.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
Lots of reliable sources now reporting the news. Shame how this has happened and the problems go much deeper than Jose, but hopefully this is the start of many required changes at the club. Woodward next.
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Gary Neville is right. The club is rotten to the core and it starts at the top of the tree. Even our signings. One of the things that was looked for was character and courage, we don't see that much now.
 
For all that I don’t agree with sacking through the media.....José of all people can’t complain about the club being classless. The bullshit after Sevilla, the crap he’s been dishing out in recent weeks, throwing players under the bus, going on about what an achievement it was for this club to finish second. Give me a break, the man defines classless when he’s in destruction mode
 
Gary Neville is bound to say this is not how United should be run, but he spent his whole time at the club in a period of complete stability, which is very unusual for any football club.

I don't see why it has to be leaked to the press the day before though and in any case, how does this bozo from the Mail get to find out? Surely this should be a top level board decision.
 
Bojan11 said:
Why do you feel for Jose? Spent £300m and earning £20m compensation.

Extreme pressure? Do you think Madrid, Bayern or Barca take it easy on managers. Even Chelsea seem to have higher standards than us these days.
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Jose inherited a fecking mess.

And who cares how much compensation he gets...is it your money? Are you paying him? £20 million is nothing these days when you see how much money is sloshing around .

I give the next manager 1 season and a half before eventual calls for the sack by idiot fans and the ABU media
 
If it’s not true I wonder just how many of the people on here talking about ”lack of class” are actually pleased now that Jose hasn’t been sacked in a classless manner.

My guess, very few. Probably all slating the club instead now for dithering.
 
kouroux said:
I think this whole sage has broken many of our fans way of processing events. Too many of them want to pin this on one party (Mourinho/Board/Players) without realizing all of them have their part in this. However, as a first step, it is necessary to replace Mourinho. It's simply how it is.
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Generally agree. I don't have much, if any confidence in our board, but they should pull the plug.

Jose seems to give up, players also and the whole club looks like it's in hibernation mode.
 
Red_Ramirez said:
Jose inherited a fecking mess.

And who cares how much compensation he gets...is it your money? Are you paying him? £20 million is nothing these days when you see how much money is sloshing around .

I give the next manager 1 season and a half before eventual calls for the sack by idiot fans and the ABU media
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He might have inherited a mess - but that mess was still good enough to beat the teams we've been losing to - especially when you add the fortune spent since.
 
Red_Ramirez said:
Jose inherited a fecking mess.

And who cares how much compensation he gets...is it your money? Are you paying him? £20 million is nothing these days when you see how much money is sloshing around .

I give the next manager 1 season and a half before eventual calls for the sack by idiot fans and the ABU media
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£20m is nothing? He’s getting £20m after making a mess.

When Jose arrived we were just below City and above Liverpool. Yet after £300m we look miles behind both. So who is to blame for that?

Is Woodward or the fans to blame because our team can’t string 5 passes together something which even Derby County can manage. What’s the excuse for that?
 
Kapardin said:
He's done two similar articles about Moyes and LvG before they happened. I'd argue his credibility is as high as Stone or Orny with respect to managerial sackings at our club (sad though it may sound).

Besides, too much overrating of BBC here. They play it too safe and report things when everyone and their dog knows it will happen. Stone is especially guilty of always writing a lot of words in his tweets that mean absolutely feck all in terms of significance. This tweet seems like he couldn't independently verify the Mirror's report and thus chose to stick to previous briefings.

Btw, not saying this because I want Jose out, just my take on these two journalists.
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I agree with you, I think McDonnell is usually in some sort of loop re united so if such a huge story broke on his own his reputation will take a hammering. It’s a massive story and he must have had a trusted source to print it
 
Red_Ramirez said:
Jose inherited a fecking mess.

And who cares how much compensation he gets...is it your money? Are you paying him? £20 million is nothing these days when you see how much money is sloshing around .

I give the next manager 1 season and a half before eventual calls for the sack by idiot fans and the ABU media
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Agreed. I have said this before, everyone who thinks Morinho being replaced is the cure to our current problems are in for a very rude surprise! And Zidane! Don’t even get me started, if we go for him he won’t last 2 seasons either. We have a rot at this club which starts at the top. It’s not going to change
 
You'd still have to believe that someone told McDonnell that Mourinho was gone this weekend given his track record. If Stone and the rest are now being briefed that it's untrue (presumably also by senior United figures) then there are some shenanigans going on.
 
Having slept on the news, I still find the leak distasteful and I don't enjoy how we conduct ourselves these days Having said that if Jose is still our manager on Monday I will be fecking gutted.
 
I hope it's true. I'm also struggling to think of a sacking where there have been no rumours? Not sure how any sacking can be completed in a perfectly classy manner.
 
Coxy said:
He might have inherited a mess - but that mess was still good enough to beat the teams we've been losing to - especially when you add the fortune spent since.
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Ya people are missing this point. It’s one thing not to be side by side with City an Liverpool at the top (still not excusable imo but plausible). However, the issue is we don’t even look like we could get close - we’re so far from them.
 
Don’t think this is happening, sadly.

Being reported the board still back him.

You wouldn’t put that out there if you were planning on sacking him this weekend, as that is the something that would make the shameful handling of this situation even worse.
 
We have become an embarrassment with all of this short sighted sacking of managers. Jose is one of the Worlds top managers. If we replace him, the next man, or woman, or person of ‘fluid sexuality’, will have inferior credentials to him. The reaction of what now feels like a majority of our fans is akin to a teenager stamping his feet on Christmas morning because he no longer gets the same number of presents he got when he was 5 years old. Jose has a very different style of play to what a lot of fans have grown up with, but he’s proven time and time again to be a winner. I guarantee that this is all about results and whilst the ‘disaster’ of only being mid table is disappointing, a couple of wins would lift the clouds. More to the point, if we had a manager like Guardiola who insisted on expansive attacking football that left us wide open at the back, our fans would be bleating if we were losing games and having a similar mid table ‘disaster’ because of it. Sacking Mourinho and effectively starting again would set us back another two years. Stick with him, back him in the transfer market and within a few years we’ll be challenging and could possibly win the league again in five to seven years. Look at Liverpool, this is Klopps fourth season, he’s won nothing yet, but you can see progress, (although I do think last years UCL run was a fluke.) That said, he may well win the league this year. Progress is less obvious (yet) with us, but it will come with patience. Now is the time to back, not sack, Jose. Today at the game, we should show him our love. I know that I will be.
 
Firing Mourinho will not solve all of our problems. We need to shift focus from the commercial enterprise that this club has become to being the premier football club in England. And Woodward has to be stipped of football decisions.
 
I tend to believe the board’s response. What would be the point or benefit in leaking that the manager is going to be sacked after the next match? Either do it before or don’t make it public. The club is a mess but surely not this much of a mess.
 
rpitroda said:
Don’t think this is happening, sadly.

Being reported the board still back him.

You wouldn’t put that out there if you were planning on sacking him this weekend, as that is the something that would make the shameful handling of this situation even worse.
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To be fair the dreaded vote of confidence from the board has often been seen as a sign the manager is basically out of time and on their last legs, and it certainly fits our situation.
 
Funny how Jose with this leak managed to turn the fans on the club and probably gonna get some sort of reception from the naive fans which he doesn’t deserve in the slightest.

Woodward beig clueless git gonna take it for the vote of confidence from the fans and we’ll continue our way of the cross.
 
Regardless of whether it is the right move or not, why are they waiting until after today's game to sack him, regardless of the result. If United won 5-0 and they sacked him later on tonight that would look a bit stupid, but then the whole saga has been stupid, so plus ca change I suppose.
 
PoTMS said:
I'm just going to leave this here...





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I remember being fuming at how we played in that 2nd leg (a little bit in the 1st leg) and he came out with that nonsense. Watching it back it's worse than what I remembered. Still baffled how this was forgotten so quickly.
 
saivet said:
I hope it's true. I'm also struggling to think of a sacking where there have been no rumours? Not sure how any sacking can be completed in a perfectly classy manner.
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Yes, I was thinking the same.

Whether this is report is true or not. Ideally you wouldn't want a leak and I suppose people expect United to be different but I often read reports about a managers sacking before it's happened and they often appear on the likes of the BBC. Rumours and untenable situations will get out in the open before it's official.

Also clubs will often talk to other people to hire before the sacking, this is common, hard to keep under wraps but it's like people expect us just to sack a manager then start looking around. Sometimes this might happen, depends how bad the situation is and the club might even have asked two or three people but just not leaked out due to how low key it is. I also read how such a club is looking to replace this person with this other person and quell surprise that's what exactly happens.
 
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Adisa said:
Good on you finding this tweet. Ed Woodward is shit but I can't imagine him going to tell David McDonnell that he's going to sack Jose on Saturday.
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Before Mourinho joined, he was regularly briefing a select few journos. McDonnell, who wrote this exclusive, was one of them. In fact, there are pictures of Woodward with 5/6 journos during a briefing session somewhere on the internet.
 
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