D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing

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RedTiger said:
Not if his compensation package depended on it.
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Do you honestly think Jose was sacked but asked to take charge of one last game, for old times sake? Really?

Try to imagine the absolute absurdity of it. There's no way, at all that this is how it happened. Jose would never, ever agree to it, the club would never ask it because of the fact his position would be completely undermined.

If he's being sacked, he's getting his pay off.

Jose will be deladodem answers from the club in the morning, that's for certain. If it is indeed true, the club may actually go back on the decision as it looks very bad, no matter how you try and paint it to conduct it in this manner.

Of course it would only be a delay, but to expect Jose to take the team out tomorrow, they are going to have to back in in the morning, or sack him on the spot and plinep match prep into chaos.
 
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Berbaclass said:
Like has been suggested previously it takes a while for these things to be ironed out. It’s entirely plausible that talks had begun about a potential settlement and it then got leaked.
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No manager camp will leak his sacking while this manager has a fecking game to manage tomorrow. No manager, especially top managers, will love to appear as a dead man walking on the pitch after getting the news of him getting sacked. It's ridiculous to think like that.
 
So let me get this straight. Mendes and Mourinho have leaked to the press that Jose will be sacked this weekend regardless? Why would they do that? To undermine the club? Or is that a bluff and they're trying to force the club into sacking him.

I don't understand why they would leak this information.
 
el3mel said:
No manager camp will leak his sacking while this manager has a fecking game to manage tomorrow. No manager, especially top managers, will love to appear as a dead man walking on the pitch after getting the news of him getting sacked. It's ridiculous to think like that.
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Until he is actually sacked then he’s under contract isn’t he. I think we would have got the “mutual agreement” line after the game.
 
It would be nice if this is the beginning of the end for the Glazers. Sad thing is there’s too much money left to be mined out of the club and it would take a Mark Zuckerberg to prize it from their fingers.

If only Beckham were THAT rich...
 
At the end of the day you can moan the timing and manner of the sacking etc. is but unprofessional and clueless state of the club’s hierarchy is hardly news. What would be news is if we were actually getting rid of this clown who has been serving up some of the biggest dross we’ve ever seen, and doing it on a weekly fecking basis. I’d be buzzing if this was true.
 
Berbaclass said:
Until he is actually sacking then he’s under contract isn’t he. I think we would have got the “mutual agreement” line after the game.
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If he knows the club is preparing for the sack and it's already known by Mendes to the point leaking it to the media, no chance in hell he would accept to manage another game. Would have demanded his pay off and left out immediately today.
 
el3mel said:
The real ridiculous thing is to think that Mourinho camp will know he's sacked, leak it to the media then go and manage the game tomorrow like nothing happened. If Mourinho camp knew he was sacked Carrick will be managing tomorrow.

Some love argument for the sake of it, even if their views make zero sense whatsoever.
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It isn't ridiculous at all for that to be the case. It happens in professional jobs all the time, not everyone is fired with immediate termination. My brother is currently working on a project that's going to last a month in his job, and his company have already told him that he'll be laid off after the project is done. There'll be quite a huge severance package for Mourinho that will be negotiated, if its true that's getting sacked. And if in the meantime, he's expected to manage one game, knowing that he'll be sacked, it's not the end of the world. He's supposed to go out there and do his job as a professional, while he still has the job. There's nothing insane about it.
 
crossy1686 said:
So let me get this straight. Mendes and Mourinho have leaked to the press that Jose will be sacked this weekend regardless? Why would they do that? To undermine the club? Or is that a bluff and they're trying to force the club into sacking him.

I don't understand why they would leak this information.
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It's a PR move to control the narrative that will play out in the media. Just look at Gary Neville's outrage video, that has already gone viral. Why would the club leak this news? Its terrible from a PR standpoint for them.
 
el3mel said:
If he knows the club is preparing for the sack and it's already known by Mendes to the point leaking it to the media, no chance in hell he would accept to manage another game. Would have demanded his pay off and left out immediately today.
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His payoff is probably the reason why it hadn’t yet been announced. Also the reason why he met with Mendes in London.

It’s not uncommon to lose your job and continue working in the short term.
 
DarkXaero said:
It isn't ridiculous at all for that to be the case. It happens in professional jobs all the time, not everyone is fired with immediate termination. My brother is currently working on a project that's going to last a month in his job, and his company have already told him that he'll be laid off after the project is done. There'll be quite a huge severance package for Mourinho that will be negotiated, if its true that's getting sacked. And if in the meantime, he's expected to manage one game, knowing that he'll be sacked, it's not the end of the world. He's supposed to go out there and do his job as a professional, while he still has the job. There's nothing insane about it.
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You know that this example is completely different from this situation right ? No top manager will accept to play the dead man walking role on the pitch after he knowing he's getting sacked. It undermines him and makes him look like a joke, and this game means feck all to the manager anyway.

If he knows he will demand his pay off and leaves immediately. It's absurd to think that a top manager will accept to be undermined that way. This isn't Moyes.
 
GE said:
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Full Gary Neville reaction on Sky Sports as the news broke.

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Sky Sports are reporting it.

They say regardless of the result, he will be sacked this weekend.

The story has been broken early by certain journalists.
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Love ya Gary but just feck off.... complaining about center backs....what about the 300 mil and 10 players he has bought??? They do and look feck all in MOURINHOS system and Neville is still talking about CBs.....if story is true only thing I agree with Gary is they way they are doing it and yes the board is fecked, get it sorted.
 
Berbaclass said:
His payoff is probably the reason why it hadn’t yet been announced. Also the reason why he met with Mendes in London.

It’s not uncommon to lose your job and continue working in the short term.
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No it's not common for top managers to accept to get undermined in that way.
 
el3mel said:
You know that this example is completely different from this situation right ? No top manager will accept to play the dead man walking role on the pitch after he knowing he's getting sacked. It undermines him and makes him look like a joke, and this game means feck all to the manager anyway.

If he knows he will demand his pay off and leaves immediately. It's absurd to think that a top manager will accept to be undermined that way. This isn't Moyes.
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He’s not officially being sacked though he and the club are coming to an agreement for him to leave. Which is why there was an opportunity for it to even be leaked in the first place
 
Berbaclass said:
He’s not officially being sacked though he and the club are coming to an agreement for him to leave. Which is why there was an opportunity for it to even be leaked in the first place
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We're running in circles aren't we. This isn't Moyes. If he knows that the club has taken the decision to sack him he will be in London now. He won't accept to manage another game. This undermines his stature as a top manager.
 
el3mel said:
We're running in circles aren't we. This isn't Moyes. If he knows that the club has taken the decision to sack him he will be in London now. He won't accept to manage another game. This undermines his stature as a top manager.
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He’s undermined his own stature by being shit :lol:
 
Berbaclass said:
He’s undermined his own stature by being shit :lol:
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Shifting goal posting to other thing ?

We're talking about your hypothical claim that makes zero sense that he knows he's sacked , leaks it then accept to manage another game. If this situation is true yes it undermines his stature by playing the dead man walking role. No manager will accept to do that, simply.
 
Dont care if its him or Ed who leaked this. He resigned from this job in the summer. I really dont give a toss about how this was handled it's been toxic for so long that I feel relieved. It's been really torrid for a long time, he has really overstayed his welcome.
 
el3mel said:
Here's an example for someone who jumps midway in a discussion without even having a clue what we're talking about. Happens a lot these dahs.
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I know how to follow a discussion thanks, but keep up being obnoxious.
 
i think i'll legit light a candle tonight and hold vigil that this is true
 
The Jose ass kissers are bizarre. He literally doesn’t give two shits about our fans.
 
el3mel said:
Shifting goal posting to other thing ?

We're talking about your hypothical claim that makes zero sense that he knows he's sacked , leaks it then accept to manage another game. If this situation is true yes it undermines his stature by playing the dead man walking role. No manager will accept to do that, simply.
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No we’re talking about a situation where Mourinho and his agent are probably negotiating his exit and until that happens he’s still our manager. These things take time to negotiate an come to terms.

It’s like a player still playing for his club while negotiating to leave for another club.

You say no manager will do that but I’m pretty sure Conte was happy to stay at Chelsea this summer even though they wanted to sack him.
 
A large part of why Gary is angry is because he's rigid with his "always back the manager" sentiment.



It's a ridiculous stance. People need to stop thinking giving managers time means they'll turn into Fergie.
 
I hope the José haters are happy with this. I said when José was hired that if he couldn't bring success back to the club, nobody else could. The rot runs much deeper. The reality is that at this point, Liverpool will get to 21 before we do.
 
Berbaclass said:
No we’re talking about a situation where Mourinho and his agent are probably negotiating his exit and until that happens he’s still our manager. These things take time to negotiate an come to terms.

It’s like players still playing for clubs while negotiating to leave for another club.

You say no manager will do that but I’m pretty sure Conte was happy to stay at Chelsea this summer even though they wanted to sack him.
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Except Conte didn't know he'll get sacked, and for his last presser at the club after FA cup final he said it's up to the board to determine if they want him to stay or not. Search for better examples.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44186442

Why are you acting like this 15-20m payoff is a big deal for the club and Mourinho that needs negotiation for several weeks ? He was sacked on mutual consent and got them from Chelsea without all this leaking stuff and in no time.
 
Big Ben Foster said:
I hope the José haters are happy with this. I said when José was hired that if he couldn't bring success back to the club, nobody else could. The rot runs much deeper. The reality is that at this point, Liverpool will get to 21 before we do.
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The rot being much deeper isn't some mysterious force that makes managers fail. Woodward being incompetent doesn't mean Mourinho also wasn't incompetent. It also doesn't mean that the next manager can't fix United's performances. All it means is that we're more likely to not fix it because Woodward will make the wrong hire again.
 
Course, it's time Mourinho should go but, again, the way this has been handled is an utter disgrace to Manchester United Football Club.

I am embarrassed
 
el3mel said:
Except Conte didn't know he'll get sacked, and for his last presser at the club after FA cup final he said it's up to the board to determine if they want him to stay or not. Search for better examples.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44186442

Why are you acting like this 15-20m payoff is a big deal for the club and Mourinho that needs negotiation for several weeks ? He was sacked on mutual consent and got them from Chelsea without all this leaking stuff and in no time.
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It was widely reported that Chelsea wanted Sarri and also Conte was leaving but Conte didn’t want to and dug his heels in and came back for pre season etc and was then “disgusted” about them sacking him despite him wanting to stay and fulfill his contact. So it does happen and cherry picking links that are irrelevant and out of date from the end of last season to support your argument doesn’t work pal :lol:

As far as the whole negotiating thing goes, it’s in the hands of the lawyers now I’d imagine on the terms of the deal which can take time.
 
What happened to this fecking club? Being American, I am used to teams going up and down. The simple fact that the team tried to rebuild, and gets almost everything WRONG over and over again astonishes me.
 
Berbaclass said:
It was widely reported that Chelsea wanted Sarri and also Conte was leaving but Conte didn’t want to and dug his heels in and came back for pre season etc and was then “disgusted” about them sacking him despite him wanting to stay and fulfill his contact. So it does happen and cherry picking links that are irrelevant and out of date from the end of last season to support your argument doesn’t work pal :lol:

As far as the whole negotiating thing goes, it’s in the hands of the lawyers now I’d imagine on the terms of the deal which can take time.
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What are you on about lol. Your argument was that Mourinho and his camp knew he was sacked and leaked it to the media mentioning Conte as example, then you go on and say that Conte joined the preseson and was disgusted to see he was sacked, that means he ultimalely didn't know he would be sacked and was still waiting to see the club decision, completely different about your claim that Mourinho camp knows he's sacked, leaked it to the media and gonna manage the game tomorrow as if it's nothing!

Well thanks for poving my point right. :lol:

You didn't also tell us why we didn't see these leaks when Mourinho was sacked by Chelsea.
 
el3mel said:
What are you on about lol. Your argument was that Mourinho and his camp knew he was sacked and leaked it to the media mentioning Conte as example, then you go on and say that Conte joined the preseson and was disgusted to see he was sacked, that means he ultimalely didn't know he would be sacked and was still waiting to see the club decision, completely different about your claim that Mourinho camp knows he's sacked, leaked it to the media and gonna manage the game tomorrow!

Well thanks for poving my point right. :lol:
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You drunk? Either that or you can’t read.

You’re totally missing the point :lol:

Conte I used as an example of a manager willingly continuing in a job knowing he was getting sacked.

His and Mourinhos situation are very different and I’m not trying to parallel them you’re getting yourself all confused.

Nowhere have I said he’s happy to manage tomorrow or anything along those lines.
 
Jose's probably lost the dressing room to the point there's no coming back. That much can be surmised from the reports of the dressing downs to player and team in the last couple of weeks. His position has become untenable. I guess the club just had to make a decision. Can't sack the players unfortunately. Sad and emarrasing the way it's been handled but hey, Jose came in same way. He'll live. More important is that the club put in a proper structure to support the new manager. Anyone who doesn't know Woodward isn't up to it by now has clinical delusion. Leave him to his money making and appoint qualified people to run the football department. We may yet emerge from this the better for it.
 
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ReallyUSA said:
What happened to this fecking club? Being American, I am used to teams going up and down. The simple fact that the team tried to rebuild, and gets almost everything WRONG over and over again astonishes me.
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Which American sports teams do you support?
 
Berbaclass said:
You drunk? Either that or you can’t read.

You’re totally missing the point :lol:

Conte I used as an example of a manager willingly continuing in a job knowing he was getting sacked.

His and Mourinhos situation are very different and I’m not trying to parallel them you’re getting yourself all confused.

Nowhere have I said he’s happy to manage tomorrow or anything along those lines.
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He didn't. You're inventing things out of your mind. No one at Chelsea told him mid season you're getting the sack. His quotes and actions prove it.
 
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