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Does Cuadrado play regularly at a defensive right sided position at Fiorentina or something? Have to admit I've never seen him play for them, but he didn't seem to be the defensive type judging from the World Cup.

Asking because he's supposedly the perfect answer to the RWB spot in Louis' new formation...
 
Does Cuadrado play regularly at a defensive right sided position at Fiorentina or something? Have to admit I've never seen him play for them, but he didn't seem to be the defensive type judging from the World Cup.

Asking because he's supposedly the perfect answer to the RWB spot in Louis' new formation...

He was originally a right back, then he played as a wing back for a few seasons. Then this season he's played more of a winger/wide forward. He has the ability to play anywhere down either width apparently.
 
Have only seen him at the world cup. He looked every bit the equal of Valencia physically in terms of speed, strength and stamina, maybe even faster than Valencia. Very skilful but seemed to play with his head down and sometimes end up dribbling into trouble instead of making the right pass.
 
Have only seen him at the world cup. He looked every bit the equal of Valencia physically in terms of speed, strength and stamina, maybe even faster than Valencia. Very skilful but seemed to play with his head down and sometimes end up dribbling into trouble instead of making the right pass.
This is exactly what I thought. He was Nani-ish vs (I think) Brazil at the World Cup as he kept losing the ball. Not the most intelligent player I've watched but if he's originally a right wing back like @Hal9000 said then he'd certainly be an upgrade on Valencia and possibly Rafael.
 
Well, assuming we do get him and continue to play 3-5-2, surely it'll mean at least one, if not two, of the wing back options that we currently have will have to go?
It also gives you the option of playing with wingers. I don't think we need to be rigid with our formation. He can play wingback and winger. It gives you the option of playing him wide and one of the others behind him.
 
Do we think this will happen then? Or will he end up at Barca?
 
James Richardson doesn't really rate him, for whatever that might be worth.

Yeah, nor does James Horncastle (assuming you are referring to the Guardian podcast).

For those who didn't catch it, James Richardson called him a style-over-substance player who's flashy but gives the ball away constantly. I think Horncastle actually singled out Nani as a player he's most similar too.
 
Yeah, nor does James Horncastle (assuming you are referring to the Guardian podcast).

For those who didn't catch it, James Richardson called him a style-over-substance player who's flashy but gives the ball away constantly. I think Horncastle actually singled out Nani as a player he's most similar too.
A lot of flairy players are like that though. 8/10 times they will give the ball away, and then they will create or score a goal out of nothing. It just depends whether you can be patient enough to persist with players like that. You either get your solid workhorses like Valencia, or inconsistent genius like Nani(of old).

I haven't seen Cuardrado in the wingback role, but as a winger he certainly has the beating of a man, and his pace with the ball is very hard to stop. For a fair price he would certainly get the fans back on their feet.
 
Where is the article these quotes supposedly come from? I have seen nothing in the English press. If Van Gaal said something like that the Sun, The Mail, everyone would be running it.

He didn't say exactly that. Cuadrado's name was added into quote.
 
If he's that wasteful in possession, he may not be the man for our wingback role. I'd rather have a steady performer who never gives it away. With no fullback to protect him, it would be extremely dangerous to rely on a player of this ilk.

Valencia of a couple of years ago would have been perfect.
 
With Shaw, Rafael, Valencia and Young and James already fighting for the wingback positions, do we really need another? Will he add that much to the side?
 
Seems like Gaitan or Garay where the press are always certain we're on the verge of signing them while we never seem to even be interested.
 
Signing him would be a good move, it seems good quality right wingers are becoming quite rare, these days most players in that role are really pacy no.10s, wingers who cut in.

I think signing him would be the equivalent of having a younger hungrier Nani back in the squad. The Nani of old that would dominate teams on the flank and be frightening on the break. I wonder what happened to that Nani, used to be one of our most exciting players.

Anyway I'd be happy to see him sign, he would offer genuine pace for the team with additional defensive discipline something Nani never had. He's the kind of player I imagine the 92 lot would like, pacy, exciting, when he makes one of those runs you can imagine the excitement in the ground
ground. He's an entertaining player if nelse.g else
 
I think he'd be a superb addition. He adds great tactical flexibility to play as a wing back or a right winger, pushing Rafael back to right back. Van Gaal loves that sort of flexibility and it allows us to switch quite easily from 3412 to 433.
 
How dare he is a player that actually trys to take on players and for that happens to lose the ball at times. He better forgets that when he is here and passes the ball the back or sideways the moment he receives it
 
With Shaw, Rafael, Valencia and Young and James already fighting for the wingback positions, do we really need another? Will he add that much to the side?
Apart from maybe Shaw, read those names you've listed and you've answered your own question!
 
Not only would he be a great wing back in a 3412 or winger in a 433, he'd also be excellent up top in the roaming role Robben played for LVG at the world cup.

If Barca want him though I fear we'll miss out.
 
We don't need him in the first half against City or Chelsea but when we meet the bottom half he can be very useful with his ability run thru tight defenses. For the right price it's a no brainer. We have missed his type since Nani disappeared a couple of seasons ago.
 
Apart from maybe Shaw, read those names you've listed and you've answered your own question!
I'm of the opinion Rafael is a superb player and with less defensive duties with having 3 at the back will flourish yet more. Young seems to have found his feet and James looks like a terrific prospect. Spending huge sums on a player that I don't beleive would improve us that much seems a little silly.

You can only bring in so many players before you start to lose cohesion, having already brought 2 new starters in and with CB and CM areas I'm sure we will address 4 new starters seems enough, we don't want to go all Tottenham.
 
Do we think this will happen then? Or will he end up at Barca?

How much money do Barca have? They must have spend upwards of €140m on Suarez, Rakitic, Mathieu and the 2 keepers, you can add to that the huge Neymar deal last Summer. I doubt they'll be in for him as a defender is their priority at the minute, they're looking at Vermaelan and Agger after deciding against Marquinos.
 
With Shaw, Rafael, Valencia and Young and James already fighting for the wingback positions, do we really need another? Will he add that much to the side?

Yes he would. Some people in this thread suggests that Rafael would be the player to leave if he came in. I disagree with that assessment for this reason... if we did decide to switch to 4-3-3 then we'd have one RB choice: Valencia (unless we played Jones/Smalling there). Selling Rafael would mean we'd lose our only natural RB in the senior squad. Whereas if we sold Valencia we'd be removing a right winger which Cuadrado would fill. So in that scenario I think it's more likely that Valencia would be the one on the way out, not Rafael.
 
Yes he would. Some people in this thread suggests that Rafael would be the player to leave if he came in. I disagree with that assessment for this reason... if we did decide to switch to 4-3-3 then we'd have one RB choice: Valencia (unless we played Jones/Smalling there). Selling Rafael would mean we'd lose our only natural RB in the senior squad. Whereas if we sold Valencia we'd be removing a right winger which Cuadrado would fill. So in that scenario I think it's more likely that Valencia would be the one on the way out, not Rafael.
I'd agree if Valencia hadn't only recently signed an extension. I can't see this being an extension with the intention to get more money from selling him, no one with money would want him!
 
I'd agree if Valencia hadn't only recently signed an extension. I can't see this being an extension with the intention to get more money from selling him, no one with money would want him!

They'd get more for him that if he left on a free. They probably extended his contract because we're short on wingers, especially if Nani goes which looked likely at the time.
 
I'd agree if Valencia hadn't only recently signed an extension. I can't see this being an extension with the intention to get more money from selling him, no one with money would want him!

I think you'd be surprised, in any case we'd probably keep hold of all 3 for a season just as a precaution in case we did change formation half way through the season.
 
I think you'd be surprised, in any case we'd probably keep hold of all 3 for a season just as a precaution in case we did change formation half way through the season.
They'd get more for him that if he left on a free. They probably extended his contract because we're short on wingers, especially if Nani goes which looked likely at the time.
I take your point but we have 3 other wingers in Nani, Zaha and Young - they're all as bad as each other right now. I just think it would be a huge waste of money.
 
I take your point but we have 3 other wingers in Nani, Zaha and Young - they're all as bad as each other right now. I just think it would be a huge waste of money.

Id keep Valencia over Young, Zaha and Nani any day.
 
So he'd rather stay in Italy than sign for us? If it's true then fecking hell, what have we become?
 
So he'd rather stay in Italy than sign for us? If it's true then fecking hell, what have we become?

I can't translate the article but if that's the jist of it, I highly doubt that's the case. For a start, he can probably earn a hell of a lot more here.
 
I can't translate the article but if that's the jist of it, I highly doubt that's the case. For a start, he can probably earn a hell of a lot more here.
I didn't see the article, I was just going off the stuff I posted in the twitter thread.
 
So he'd rather stay in Italy than sign for us? If it's true then fecking hell, what have we become?

Tuscany is lovely to be fair. Not every player will put footballing ambitions above general quality of life. Not to worry because many others will.
 
Liked the sound of this guy until I read those Nani comparisons. No more brainless players please.
 
He says that he's convinced that if it's a straight choice between Manchester United and Fiorentina, there's a chance that Cuadrado could stay. It's his opinion.
 
Liked the sound of this guy until I read those Nani comparisons. No more brainless players please.
I have not seen enough of him but watching the Videos he never, ever passes the ball. Always trying to beat a man with his skills and acceleration. I say we can do better and this is not a priority this season.
 
Ive seen young play for a few years now, a good pre season doesnt change that.
If LVG wants to keep him as a squad player, thats fine.

To be fair he is useful as a squad player, and was decent in his first season.
 
To be fair he is useful as a squad player, and was decent in his first season.

Absolutely, Ive no problems with the likes of Young & Clev being squad players and see how they turn out after a year under LVG.
They should not start for MUFC IMO.
 
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