Cuadrado

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KiD MoYeS said:
Interesting, could probably signal the end of Rafael's Manchester United career?
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Wouldn't be a great loss IMO, he hasn't really kicked on. The fans love him because he throws himself into everything but his defending is often suspect and he loses his head.
 
Kag said:
Ay, I struggle to give a shit about it while the midfield still needs an extra body or two.
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Don't get me wrong, I think we're massively weak on the wings, but I just don't think Cuadrado is all that, especially for the money being talked about.

If we got Cuadrado in the same Summer that Sanchez and Di Maria moved, I'd be pretty dissapointed.
 
Kag said:
Ay, I struggle to give a shit about it while the midfield still needs an extra body or two.
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100% with you on this one. I still get shivers down my spine when I look at our midfield options. Herrera aside.
 
Well if we want a proper Wing Back he is the man, right?
 
Sam said:
Don't get me wrong, I think we're massively weak on the wings, but I just don't think Cuadrado is all that, especially for the money being talked about.

If we got Cuadrado in the same Summer that Sanchez and Di Maria moved, I'd be pretty dissapointed.
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Yeah, but we are getting him as he can play as a wingback.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
How gifted is this chap on the ball?
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He's absolutely rapid and he's very talented in his dribbling - skillful fecker who can take players on. Very athletic and has a lot more end product than Valencia. It's been a while since we've had a player who can be as 'exciting' as he, bar Januzaj.
 
Sam said:
Don't get me wrong, I think we're massively weak on the wings, but I just don't think Cuadrado is all that, especially for the money being talked about.

If we got Cuadrado in the same Summer that Sanchez and Di Maria moved, I'd be pretty dissapointed.
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Agree that I don't want him for the quoted price, but comparing him to Sanchez makes me question how much you've seen of both. Sanchez would be a striker in our system and Cuadrado a wing back
 
Anderson18 said:
Agree that I don't want him for the quoted price, but comparing him to Sanchez makes me question how much you've seen of both. Sanchez would be a striker in our system and Cuadrado a wing back
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In a perfect world we'd be playing a 4-3-3 under Van Gaal, Sanchez as one of the wide forwards. We're only playing 5-3-2 because of the lack of quality on the wings.
 
Sam said:
But LVG has said we're only playing 5-3-2 because we don't have the personnel to play his favoured 4-3-3.
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Cuadrado can play both roles - a winger in the 433 or a wingback. A good signing for now as a wing back who can then play on the wing once we have the full personnel and the squad has retained the philosophy.
 
Whiny feckers. The lad has some serious talent. Would be delighted if we signed him, especially considering our other opitions on the right wingback position.

He would perfectly fit LvG's bill of beeing able to play in a 4-3-3 and 5-3-2
 
He's an ideal buy to be fair. He can play in both systems and he's quick, he can best s player which we're lacking at the moment.

He fits the bill as that 'specialist' LVG was talking about.
 
Sam said:
But LVG has said we're only playing 5-3-2 because we don't have the personnel to play his favoured 4-3-3.
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Yes, but he also mentioned how unbalanced our squad is and one summer of rebuilding won't be enough to move to a 4-3-3 consistently. Cuadrado would give us a bit of both, though I would prefer some one else on the wing if we did play 4-3-3. Saying that though, this guy is skillful and Van Gaal can probably drill the necessary sense to make him step up.
 
Hmmm well you lot are making a good case for him. I guess if it means less Valencia in the team then it has to be a positive. An we do massively lack a player with pace and skill. We'll see.
 
it's hilarious how Barca go after players like this, year in, year out, despite how crap their defense is. It's basically the defensive equivalent of midfield woes.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He's absolutely rapid and he's very talented in his dribbling - skillful fecker who can take players on. Very athletic and has a lot more end product than Valencia. It's been a while since we've had a player who can be as 'exciting' as he, bar Januzaj.
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That's exactly the kind of wide player we need IMO. Rapid and excellent dribbling ability. In attack we've got all the other bases covered.
 
Would love to see him here. The transfer makes so much sense especially with Valencia's underwhelming performances at RWB
 
I would not mind this addition, but I do not see it as a priority signing. Amongst Valencia and Rafael, Cuardado may be more potent upfront, but he does not provide the same defensive stability the players aforementioned would. Moreover, I feel that Van gaal needs to have a look at janko in the right fullback role. He could do as good a job as Blackett is doing for the first team.

But, if it is choice of Valencia or Cuardrado, i believe I will take Cuardrado because he is less predictable and can also offer some sort of protection in defense.
 
Is he actually any good defensively though?
 
I don't mean to be condescending (as I don't watch him every week), but most people here have clearly only seen him once or twice outside of the WC. The guy was great in the group stages, with just one anonymous appearance (vs Brasil, where no players did very well going forward bar Rodriguez) that people are making too much out of.

He was one of the best forwards in Serie A last season, while also having played at fullback many times in the past. With Rafael's injury woes, Shaw's inexperience, Valencia's loss of form & Young being Young (as good as he has been this preseason, credit to him as I think he can turn it around this season), Cuadrado makes sense, especially if we offload someone.

The guy is a very good player both at the back and going forward. Nani is the only other player with power, pace and skill & he has gone off the boil - Cuadrado has something we don't have. Agreed, other areas are in greater need of strengthening, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't sign him if he makes himself available. I'm in favour of it, though if it doesn't go through, I'm still confident that two of our five wide players will make it work.
 
I dont think he is any good defensively no, he'll just put in some effort to track back. And remember Van Gaal said its easier to teach defending
 
26 years old, 15 goals 8 assists last season in a league not renowned for goals. Entering his peak, could step straight into our formation, was impressive at world cup except for the Brazil game.
I would be up for a player like this for sure. Price does not bother me either as we were always going to pay over the odds this summer.
If we are truly interested in him though I do not see us signing him over Barcelona unfortunately.
 
Ekeke said:
I dont think he is any good defensively no, he'll just put in some effort to track back. And remember Van Gaal said its easier to teach defending
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Good point. If Young can excel at wing back, then Cuadrado can too. Before he became a full time winger in 433/442, he was a full-back. It won't take him long, if any time at all, to get back into the swing of defending. He has great work rate and is good in the tackle, from what I have seen of him. He's no Maldini, but he's not a headless chicken as some people here seem to think. If he wasn't so quick and skillful, people wouldn't have that impression of him I feel.
 
Cantona'sCollar said:
I don't mean to be condescending (as I don't watch him every week), but most people here have clearly only seen him once or twice outside of the WC. The guy was great in the group stages, with just one anonymous appearance (vs Brasil, where no players did very well going forward bar Rodriguez) that people are making too much out of.

He was one of the best forwards in Serie A last season, while also having played at fullback many times in the past. With Rafael's injury woes, Shaw's inexperience, Valencia's loss of form & Young being Young (as good as he has been this preseason, credit to him as I think he can turn it around this season), Cuadrado makes sense, especially if we offload someone.

The guy is a very good player both at the back and going forward. Nani is the only other player with power, pace and skill & he has gone off the boil - Cuadrado has something we don't have. Agreed, other areas are in greater need of strengthening, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't sign him if he makes himself available. I'm in favour of it, though if it doesn't go through, I'm still confident that two of our five wide players will make it work.
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And he is one of the players that might be leaving this summer. I hope Cuardrado has at least more of a foottball brain Nani has and does not overdribble when a pass would be a much better option. The flair players are great to have, but they need to be consistent and intelligent with that trait.
 
I wonder will the British media jump all over this or will they just report about the Italian reports. I assume it'll be the latter.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
That's exactly the kind of wide player we need IMO. Rapid and excellent dribbling ability. In attack we've got all the other bases covered.
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Agreed, him and Shaw on either flank could really make up for the pace we'd lack with a Mata/RvP/Rooney trio upfront.
 
Seen him a few times now and he is very very good, also it must be noted he is better than both Valencia and Rafael put together.
 
Not convinced. He'll only become an expensive understudy to Lionel Young.
 
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