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I like Cuadrado but the money being branded about seems a bit insane really.

Still, I think he'd be great in a system similar to the one against LA Galaxy.
 
I like Cuadrado but the money being branded about seems a bit insane really.

Still, I think he'd be great in a system similar to the one against LA Galaxy.

If Di Maria goes to PSG then Cuadrado will be one of the last winger options available on the market today.
 
I wonder if he's one of the players we are linked with, so we can say to x club okay we'll pull out of a push for Cuadrado if you leave (Hummels / Vidal / Di Maria) alone. Therefore neither of us pushing up the price for the other. There's rumours that this happens between clubs, can imagine it being the case.
 
For the prices being reported I don't see any point in him since he'd be a back-up wingback given LvG has confirmed we are stuck with 3-4-3 for now.
 
Wait a year and pay reus's buyout clause the second the seasons over. and offer him and his family and agent anything they fecking want.
 
He'd be first choice right wingback.

Ok, lets say you are right, we then have Rafael and Valencia sitting on the bench, it's a waste of money when we have a very capable starter in Raf and and mediocre but functional back up.


Yes, last night after the game he said that squad lacks balance with all the #10's and strikers so 3-4-3 is the best way to fit them in.
 
Wait a year and pay reus's buyout clause the second the seasons over. and offer him and his family and agent anything they fecking want.
Is correct. If we have so much money, let's fecking spend it. The buyout clause can only help us.
 
Ok, lets say you are right, we then have Rafael and Valencia sitting on the bench, it's a waste of money when we have a very capable starter in Raf and and mediocre but functional back up.

Yes, last night after the game he said that squad lacks balance with all the #10's and strikers so 3-4-3 is the best way to fit them in.

As much as I love Rafael (he's my favourite player). I think against the best opposition he'll be found out. Wingbacks are a very important part of this formation as they're the only players that will supply the team with any genuine width. He'd be fine with his defensive duties I'm just worried like Shaw he doesn't bring enough to the table in an attacking sense. Cuadrado would not only bring solid assists from the right, but he'd also be a goal threat. Something that Rafael doesn't bring to the table and nor does Valencia.

I'd probably be selling Valencia this window to be honest unless he shows a rapid increase in performance in the coming weeks. I certainly don't see Di Maria fitting in this formation.
 
Ok, lets say you are right, we then have Rafael and Valencia sitting on the bench, it's a waste of money when we have a very capable starter in Raf and and mediocre but functional back up.



Yes, last night after the game he said that squad lacks balance with all the #10's and strikers so 3-4-3 is the best way to fit them in.

I hate 3-4-3 formation, feels too unnatural. LVG should bench the player who aren't just good enough and maybe play with a classic back 4
 
I hate 3-4-3 formation, feels too unnatural. LVG should bench the player who aren't just good enough and maybe play with a classic back 4

We'd still have the problem of RvP, Rooney and Mata.

You pick your best players in their natural positions and then pick a formation that fits, that happens to be 3-5-2.
 
As much as I love Rafael (he's my favourite player). I think against the best opposition he'll be found out. Wingbacks are a very important part of this formation as they're the only players that will supply the team with any genuine width. He'd be fine with his defensive duties I'm just worried like Shaw he doesn't bring enough to the table in an attacking sense. Cuadrado would not only bring solid assists from the right, but he'd also be a goal threat. Something that Rafael doesn't bring to the table and nor does Valencia.

I'd probably be selling Valencia this window to be honest unless he shows a rapid increase in performance in the coming weeks. I certainly don't see Di Maria fitting in this formation.

Has Cuadrado played a lot as a wingback for Fiorentina? I think we have to give Rafael a proper run as the RWB before we spunk the reported fee for this guy personally, and while I agree with you on Valencia it's clear he will be staying for at least another season come hell or high water. As for Di Maria, I think he could flourish as a LWB but again given the amount we have just paid for Shaw I can't see him ending up here..

I hate 3-4-3 formation, feels too unnatural. LVG should bench the player who aren't just good enough and maybe play with a classic back 4

I'm not a fan of the formation either but decisions in Fergie's last season and Moyes one season have left van Gaal hamstrung it seems.
 
Has Cuadrado played a lot as a wingback for Fiorentina?

A fair bit yes. 9 times last season (2 goals, 2 assists) in Serie A however Fiorentina tended to prefer 4-3-3, with Cuadrado being the right sided forward.

*Please note, didn't include 12/13 when they played 3-5-2 more often.
 
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I hate 3-4-3 formation, feels too unnatural. LVG should bench the player who aren't just good enough and maybe play with a classic back 4

Surely the point is - if he sticks with that formation, he's doing so because he thinks it will work. If not, he'll change it.

It allows Mata and Rooney to play in arguably their best positions and the lack of wingers isn't an issue because the ones we have are average anyway. I see no problem.

It also makes space for two forwards, which a lot of defenders aren't used to these days. City did it last year and have teams a torrid time.
 
Has Cuadrado played a lot as a wingback for Fiorentina? I think we have to give Rafael a proper run as the RWB before we spunk the reported fee for this guy personally, and while I agree with you on Valencia it's clear he will be staying for at least another season come hell or high water. As for Di Maria, I think he could flourish as a LWB but again given the amount we have just paid for Shaw I can't see him ending up here..



I'm not a fan of the formation either but decisions in Fergie's last season and Moyes one season have left van Gaal hamstrung it seems.


LVG can un-hamstrung himself fairly quickly with one or two of the correct signings and forget about this waiting around 3-4 weeks to re-discover that Young, Fellaini and Anderson are complete shit.
 
Surely the point is - if he sticks with that formation, he's doing so because he thinks it will work. If not, he'll change it.

It allows Mata and Rooney to play in arguably their best positions and the lack of wingers isn't an issue because the ones we have are average anyway. I see no problem.

It also makes space for two forwards, which a lot of defenders aren't used to these days. City did it last year and have teams a torrid time.

You can play with two forwards and without 3 at the back, just like City did too.
 
Why the f do we need a winger. Gonna be hard enough to get januzaj, the best young winger in the world, into the team as it is. And we have 4 other wingers than him
 
We'd still have the problem of RvP, Rooney and Mata.

You pick your best players in their natural positions and then pick a formation that fits, that happens to be 3-5-2.

Play a diamond formation, pb solved. I'm not pretending to be a tactical wizard, I just hate this 3 the back formation. Feels unnatural and wrong.
 
LVG can un-hamstrung himself fairly quickly with one or two of the correct signings and forget about this waiting around 3-4 weeks to re-discover that Young, Fellaini and Anderson are complete shit.

The crux of the issue is not those players though, it's the Rooney/RvP/Mata trio that makes it difficult for him to play his preferred formation.
 
You can play with two forwards and without 3 at the back, just like City did too.

I'm not saying you can't, but the most likely formation then in 4-4-2, which means either dropping Mata, or playing him out wide and losing width.

I'm not sure what point you're making with that post to be honest. Obviously there are other formations which utilise two up top but Van Gaal perhaps thinks yesterday's system may be a viable choice given the players he has.
 
I saw him in a 'The jungle Book' on stage in Manchester about 4 years ago, the actor that is, not Cuadrado..... as least I think it wasn't him.

He's a pretty serious actor I think. We were surprised he was in the advert.

Not Cuadrado....

:)
 
He's a pretty serious actor I think. We were surprised he was in the advert.

Not Cuadrado....

:)

Aye I think he is, Max & Paddy stands out purely because it was a great episode he was in, and it was main stream unlike 99 % of his work I guess, and obvioulsy because he looks so dam like Cuadrado.

Back to football I think he'd be a great signing, Cuadrado that is !
 
Aye I think he is, Max & Paddy stands out purely because it was a great episode he was in, and it was main stream unlike 99 % of his work I guess, and obvioulsy because he looks so dam like Cuadrado.

Back to football I think he'd be a great signing, Cuadrado that is !

Agree. Love a player with pace who will have a go - like Valencia used to.
 


Here's the youtube vid of him last season if people want more then just a few world cup games to judge him on (I know he isn't unknown, but I highly doubt anyone here watches Fiorentina regularly..). Anyways, think he'd be an improvement obviously for either as a winger or a wing back. Apparently he can play on the left or through the middle too, so he's quite versatile. He'd be pretty expensive, but I wouldn't be against the signing at all. A fast, tricky winger with good work rate who can play as a wing back too.

His goal celebrations are awful though.
 
Having seen Sanchez go to Arsenal and Di Maria potentially go to PSG, this would be so underwhelming.
 
If we are going to play 3-4-1-2 or 4-3-3, why would this be underwhelming? Under Fergie we would almost always buy players that had the hunger and fit into the manager's tactics. And we'd win.
 
Having seen Sanchez go to Arsenal and Di Maria potentially go to PSG, this would be so underwhelming.

He was better than both in the World Cup.
 
He was better than both in the World Cup.
He was not better then Sanchez at all, Sanchez was up there with the players of the tournament for the 4 games he was there. He was brilliant.
 
I don't think he was better than Sanchez, but bar a stinker against Brazil I thought Cuadrado had a decent WC.
 
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