I don't think he's a great passer atall, one area he could greatly improve in my opinion
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You don't watch him enough, then. Start with that video, then some matches, and actively look out for it. You'll see what I mean.
Someone tried to sell the plate to him, for a lot of money, but he didn't buy it when he was with us. Maybe after he left United the price came down and he did buy it for a mate as a souvenir - otherwise, no.
http://www.cherished-number-plates.co.uk/cherished-number-plates-news/christiano-ronaldo-bentley.asp
Says here he bought it and stuck it on his silver Bentley convertible, the car I was behind was a silver Bentley convertible! Also according to google the guy who had it before had it on some old Ford.
Barcelona might not be the best example brwned, he seems to try too hard in those games and seems to try and do everything himself. Take away the Barça games and his passing does seem very very good.
For the second best player in the world, his passing is fairly average. There are quite a number of players at the moment that are distinctly better passers, and I'm not even talking about the Barca trio level of passing excellence here.
Before even getting into creative playmakers, Forward players like Rooney, Ibrahimovic, Goetze, Ribery are all considerably better and more creative passers of the ball than he is. Creative passing is one part of his game that he could vastly improve on to be honest, if you think his passing is very very good, I have to say you're easily pleased.
Before even getting into creative playmakers, Forward players like Rooney, Ibrahimovic, Goetze, Ribery are all considerably better and more creative passers of the ball than he is. Creative passing is one part of his game that he could vastly improve on to be honest, if you think his passing is very very good, I have to say you're easily pleased.
He's average at many things.
If that was directed at me, you missed the key point which was "For the second best player in the world".
Put it this way, if you write down a list of the top 10(ish) players in the world, in no particular order it'll be something like;
Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Van persie, Fabregas, Ibrahimovic, Ribery, Pirlo/Fabregas/Ozil.
That's about 13 players, of those names, he's the weakest passer of the ball on there, give or take one player, which is the point I was making.
Put it this way, if you write down a list of the top 10(ish) players in the world, in no particular order it'll be something like;
Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Van persie, Fabregas, Ibrahimovic, Ribery, Pirlo/Fabregas/Ozil.
That's about 13 players, of those names, he's the weakest passer of the ball on there, give or take one player, which is the point I was making.
I know its 99% probably made up but us Ronaldo fanboys can dream
I'd not consider Rooney a considerably better passer. He's got one of the worst passing ration in our team. He's frequently annoying me with messing up a bunch of simple passes.
Götze I can't comment one as I haven't seen him enough but his passing isn't what stood out for me the times I've seen him. I've never heard him being specially praised for it either.
Zlatan is similar to Ronaldo. Wouldn't call him better.
He could improve his creativity sure. But his passing in general is good. Of course there are better passers than him. Doesn't mean he isn't a good passer. That's like saying Dani Alves isn't fast because Messi, Sanchez and Pedro are faster.
I know its 99% probably made up but us Ronaldo fanboys can dream
It's not made up. He wants to bring back Sporting to their glory days. Get that sweet sweet Portuguese league medal that's missing from his collection.
I think Zlatan is a better creative passer because he is more inventive with his passing, takes more risks with his passing, and creates more goal scoring chances from these passes.
Rooney having the lowest pass percentage in the United team doesn't change the fact that his passing accuracy has been higher than Ronaldo's every single season for the past 3 years, so I'm not sure why that's being used against him. In any case, I think post 2048 puts my point across better than I was able to with my earlier post.
Rooney having the lowest pass percentage in the United team doesn't change the fact that his passing accuracy has been higher than Ronaldo's every single season for the past 3 years, so I'm not sure why that's being used against him. In any case, I think post 2048 puts my point across better than I was able to with my earlier post.
You did say better and creative. I agreed with you on the creative aspect.
He signed for them aged 37 in my FM save last year so it must be faith, mind you he did play for city for like 9 years in that save too so lets hope its BS.
these passes are beautiful though
Does anyone remember the last time he played against us.
He arrived as an acne ridden, scrawny teenager and now he is arriving as a bulky superstar.
He arrived as an acne ridden, scrawny teenager and now he is arriving as a bulky superstar.
That's true, and Brightonian's right in the sense that he does tend to lose his head a bit when he's got something to prove. He picks out some lovely, crisp passes from crossing positions but other than that I rarely see him doing anything more than a simple pass. Last week I saw him play a cross-field pass which did surprise me but it's the kind of floated pass anyone can do, it wasn't a display of great passing technique. When I think of Ronaldo and technique I think of his fantastic first touch (never gets enough credit for this), his striking, his heading, his close control...his passing doesn't even come into it.
We all acknowledged that Ronaldo wasn't a great passer when he was with us. Has it improved at Madrid?
I'm with Brwned on this, never really rated Ronaldo as a great passer.. he's better than Nani in that attacks don't break down when it goes to Ronaldo, he's a good decision maker, knows when to use the overlap or to play a simple one inside. In and around the box, he's a precise and composed passer... I rarely see him pass to an opponent.
However when we're talking about the greats of the game from the past or even his contempories, he doesn't stand out in the slightest.. he's capable of classy passes but very sporadically and it doesn't come across natural, almost like he's reluctant to play someone else in.
He's a more consistent passer than Rooney, but Rooney's passes are designed to drive the game forward and have more risk attached to them in general.. he has greater vision for a pass than Ronaldo.
However when we're talking about the greats of the game from the past or even his contempories, he doesn't stand out in the slightest.. he's capable of classy passes but very sporadically and it doesn't come across natural, almost like he's reluctant to play someone else in.
He's a more consistent passer than Rooney, but Rooney's passes are designed to drive the game forward and have more risk attached to them in general.. he has greater vision for a pass than Ronaldo.
So what you're saying is, he's no Nigel Clough.
We'll have you in 2 years on a free then.
1. Just quickly watch the videos then. The one on the page before particularly. There's a wealth of brilliant passes of all different sorts there. Through-balls, crosses and passes from the wing, back-heels (plenty of them also through-balls - there must be ten back-heel assists on that video alone), one-two exchanges, etc.
EDIT: feck the rest of the argument I just posted, actually. Just watch the two videos, and see what you think. I can't believe they won't change your mind.
Watched the one on this page just now. The majority of them are silly flicks, some worked and some didn't. Wouldn't call it the most flattering video of Ronaldo's passing skill. A couple of nice balls with the outside of his foot but little else that you'd call proper passing. It's a display of his flair not his passing. Outstanding upper body control though, absolutely. He's fantastic at making something out of a poor, floated ball. Just ping it to him at any angle and he'll take it down or flick it on.
It was like a Ronaldinho passing video with all the flicks and none of the actual passing. I know he can backheel it (though half of those assists are blind/miss-hit), that doesn't make him a good passer. How many great passers regularly tried a backheel? Very few because - as shown by Ronaldo - it's a hit-and-miss technique. I'll watch the other one later. I'm not even comparing him to a 'great' but look at a young Giggs or even just Di Maria now and he doesn't compare favourably, IMO.
He sealed his fate when he signed a six year deal - must've been very confident he'd have no regrets. Maybe it was Real's price for splurging 80M.
If he really wants to leave, he'll probably have to run down his contract.
If he really wants to leave, he'll probably have to run down his contract.
Just get Blatter speaking out about him being a slave again.
Does anyone think there is any truth to him wanting to move back to us?
Apparently he completed every one of his 50 passes in the champions league home game against City. 100% completion of such a large number of passes is a rare event for an attacking player in such a high level match. So he's obviously very good at it.
I do.
For all the obvious reasons, I doubt it will happen. But it would be a triumph were Ronaldo to return home, the greatest sporting organization -- institution -- of any kind the world will ever know.
I do think he misses elements of his stay here, but I don't think it'd be enough to make him want to return, nor would it be very likely with Madrid trying to recoup as much of the £80 Million as possible.
Saying that - van Persie, Rooney and Ronaldo in the same team would be like cheating.
Saying that - van Persie, Rooney and Ronaldo in the same team would be like cheating.
The only small encouragement that he might come back is the length of that deal remaining. 2 1/2 years, becoming 2 years in the summer might just make Real Madrid a little nervous as that ticks down.
I expect he's just whipping up a bit of doubt in Madrid's minds, so that the next contract is even more ridiculous a wage.
But you never quite know. Football is a funny old game indeed.
Ronaldo would have to show the worst side of really trying to force through a deal if he really wants to play under Ferguson again...after all he might not have the luxury of waiting too many more years...
Imagine Fergie stays though, and Ronaldo allows his contract to go to 1 year left.
That £24m for Van Persie might suddenly look tiny change for a 29year old!
I expect he's just whipping up a bit of doubt in Madrid's minds, so that the next contract is even more ridiculous a wage.
But you never quite know. Football is a funny old game indeed.
Ronaldo would have to show the worst side of really trying to force through a deal if he really wants to play under Ferguson again...after all he might not have the luxury of waiting too many more years...
Imagine Fergie stays though, and Ronaldo allows his contract to go to 1 year left.
That £24m for Van Persie might suddenly look tiny change for a 29year old!
He'll never come back IMO. I don't believe that he has as big a bond with our club as some people want to believe he has.
Pretty much disagree there. He may never come back but the bond is clear to see. It's with Fergie and some of the players more than anything else, althoughI do genuinely feel he loves the club.
You forget he played out sone very difficult times in his life at United, not to mention the passing of his father. Things like that stick with you forever.
Where else could he realistically go after Real Madrid ?
Sporting Lisbon?
Yeah, so much love that he left us for our European rivals..
I do respect that he gave us an extra season and that he still feels something for us, but I wouldn't say that he loves the club.
imo he s a very sensitive person and he thrives on being adored by the fans, something that he got in manchester but less in madrid.
Moreover he sees fergie like a father figure for him.
I see money as the real obstacle - i cant see us forking out 80m for a 29-30 yr old
Thats daft logic. Madrid were his team growing up as a kid. It was his only chance to go there making us a world record fee in the process.
He was superb for us and when I hear the players and staff speak so fondly of him to this day, including Sir Alex, im quite happy to take their word that he is a good lad.
Whoscored.com says 87% pass accuracy.
He wouldn't cost £80m at 28. He's reliant on pace and physical attributes which means he won't keep it going for much longer once he's past 30. You'd essentially be paying that money for certain 3-4 years of very good service which is fine but not worth £80m. Real had bought him when he was 24 and already better than anyone bar Messi - it was obvious they'd have to pay close to that figure. Over 8 years they could easily get out of him he'd cost them £10m plus wages per year which is a decent enough price for a player of his talent. Bought at 28 he'd be about £20m plus wages which isn't really that great.
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