Cristiano Ronaldo

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Their conflict is blown out of proportion by media who basically live from spouting shite like that and drama queen fans of both clubs/national teams.

B20 said:
FFS. :lol:

I make fun of my girlfriend for doing this in the mirror and she's like like 80cm. What a vain pig he is.
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What the feck ?
 
Puts Portugal 1-0 ahead. That's his goal number 450 for both club and country.

An average of 0,64 goals per match over the course of his whole career.
 
He's at it again, isn't he?

This is going to be a monster year for him. I have Madrid as favourites for the champions league again (sadly). I know teams don't repeat but Bayern are beatable and they will destroy Barca if they face again. Everyone else isn't good enough.
 
CLARiiON said:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/3790/wo...ronaldo-messi-thoughts-might-put-me-in-prison

Why does he need to comment so much on Messi? It's like he's obsessed with Messi for some reason or another.

I don't see Messi making too many comments about him.
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You have completely missed the context of what he is saying there.

He was asked whether he thought Messi deserved it after Maradona said he win it for commercial reasons. Ronaldo then said he'd go to prison if he said what he really thought. That's not saying that he would go to prison if he said what he thought about Messi, he's saying he'd be in big trouble because he'd be questioning the integrity of FIFA. The truth is, the last thing he wants to do is piss off FIFA because he knows they hold the keys to his dreams.

Messi won POTT because it suits FIFA's commercial interests having his photo on all FIFA merchandise. Thomas Muller isn't quite there.
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
He's at it again, isn't he?

This is going to be a monster year for him. I have Madrid as favourites for the champions league again (sadly). I know teams don't repeat but Bayern are beatable and they will destroy Barca if they face again. Everyone else isn't good enough.
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Definitely!
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
He's at it again, isn't he?

This is going to be a monster year for him. I have Madrid as favourites for the champions league again (sadly). I know teams don't repeat but Bayern are beatable and they will destroy Barca if they face again. Everyone else isn't good enough.
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Bayern and Real are two standout teams in Europe teams right now. I maintain thought Real's CM two is not balanced anymore so I think they may suffer in a tough CL tie. Bayern are not having the best of the luck with injuries. So it won't be quite clear cut. Barca will always be in it as long as they have Messi in any kind of form.
 
Pexbo said:
You have completely missed the context of what he is saying there.

He was asked whether he thought Messi deserved it after Maradona said he win it for commercial reasons. Ronaldo then said he'd go to prison if he said what he really thought. That's not saying that he would go to prison if he said what he thought about Messi, he's saying he'd be in big trouble because he'd be questioning the integrity of FIFA. The truth is, the last thing he wants to do is piss off FIFA because he knows they hold the keys to his dreams.

Messi won POTT because it suits FIFA's commercial interests having his photo on all FIFA merchandise. Thomas Muller isn't quite there.
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Out of curiosity what exactly is his dream. It's clear individual awards mean a lot to players, especially ones like Ronaldo but he can't really believe that people take these's awards seriously or even that it will have any real substance to how he's viewed.

I can pretty much guess that the answer is yes he does cares quite a lot about this.
 
crappycraperson said:
Bayern and Real are two standout teams in Europe teams right now. I maintain thought Real's CM two is not balanced anymore so I think they may suffer in a tough CL tie. Bayern are not having the best of the luck with injuries. So it won't be quite clear cut. Barca will always be in it as long as they have Messi in any kind of form.
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At the moment that is being made up for by having everyone in the team work extremely hard defensively by tracking back and pressing (the away game vs Liverpool and the home game vs Barcelona are great examples of this). James, Isco and Benzema have been quite exceptional in that regard and Madrid have been playing very well since the end of September and have been keeping lots of clean sheets as well as scoring plenty of goals. The team atm is playing much better than it was at this stage last season and looks to be more balanced and we were unable to beat Barcelona in two attempts in the league last season but beat them convincingly at the first time of asking this time.

It is much too early to make bold predictions but at the moment things are looking very well for Madrid and the bizarre transfer dealings they made are not holding the team back due to Ancelotti's great adaptability to different situations. He is a great problem solver and is excellent at adapting to situations that mostly are not created by himself but rather his overzealous, big spending club owners. He really knows how to get the best out of the players he has and what formation, playing style and tactics suit the players the most and is very flexible in this regard and does not rely on one formation or style of play. So many people (myself included) were worried about how the team would shape up this year after our silly transfer window but Ancelotti has once again found a formation that suits the team and he has done it much earlier than he did last season and hopefully as a result Madrid win the league as well as go far in Europe this season. My main worry is if this form and hunger and high level of work-rate can be maintained for the remainder of the season but so far so good and I am very happy with the team atm.
 
Sweet Square said:
Out of curiosity what exactly is his dream. It's clear individual awards mean a lot to players, especially ones like Ronaldo but he can't really believe that people take these's awards seriously or even that it will have any real substance to how he's viewed.

I can pretty much guess that the answer is yes he does cares quite a lot about this.
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You're talking bollocks. Who wouldn't want to win the award that basically says "Best footballer in the world"? Think how many millions of players there are around the world, from the beaches of Brazil, to the plains of Africa, streets of Moscow, Sunday League pitches of England, right through all the different levels of professional football the world over. And then you're the one who is voted as being the best in the world.

It builds a legacy for yourself, kids for the next 50 years say "I'll be Ronaldo", when people discuss the best players of all time, your name goes into the hat.

But yeah, "just an individual award". Doesn't mean anything, nobody actually cares.
 
Isn't it nice that Messi isn't eligible for all the competitions he's also in? He can have a bit of glory for himself.
 
Pexbo said:
You're talking bollocks. Who wouldn't want to win the award that basically says "Best footballer in the world"? Think how many millions of players there are around the world, from the beaches of Brazil, to the plains of Africa, streets of Moscow, Sunday League pitches of England, right through all the different levels of professional football the world over. And then you're the one who is voted as being the best in the world.

It builds a legacy for yourself, kids for the next 50 years say "I'll be Ronaldo", when people discuss the best players of all time, your name goes into the hat.

But yeah, "just an individual award". Doesn't mean anything, nobody actually cares.
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Pexbo is, of course, right. Like it or not, winning these awards elevates your status in the game.
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
He's at it again, isn't he?

This is going to be a monster year for him. I have Madrid as favourites for the champions league again (sadly). I know teams don't repeat but Bayern are beatable and they will destroy Barca if they face again. Everyone else isn't good enough.
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Sadly? As if you aren't supporting them this season :D
 
Also, I agree with you @Raul Madrid, but it's probably worth noting that the impressive big games this season have all been without Bale (I think?). Whether he upsets the balance is still to be seen, but Ancelotti will probably work out the answer anyway.
 
Pexbo said:
You're talking bollocks. Who wouldn't want to win the award that basically says "Best footballer in the world"? Think how many millions of players there are around the world, from the beaches of Brazil, to the plains of Africa, streets of Moscow, Sunday League pitches of England, right through all the different levels of professional football the world over. And then you're the one who is voted as being the best in the world.

It builds a legacy for yourself, kids for the next 50 years say "I'll be Ronaldo", when people discuss the best players of all time, your name goes into the hat.

But yeah, "just an individual award". Doesn't mean anything, nobody actually cares.
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Clearly you value the Ballon d'or a lot higher than I do. And I will have to disagree with you on the point about millions of players dream about winning the Ballon d'or I would rather say they dream of winning actually trophies like the World Cup or the CL(When I was a kid I didn't even know the thing existed). I would find it rather sad if a player actively cared about the Ballon d'or(Clearly if Ronaldo think what your suggesting then he doesn't value his own opinion a lot) which is at it's very core a individual for what is a team sport.

Your point about winning it puts you in the discussion is simply not true as a certain Diego Maradona has a total of 0 wins as does Garrincha and Zizo. So clearly in terms of putting name in the hat it's not very important at all.

The Ballon d'or is the footballing Oscars and it's holds about the same amount of substance as well.
 
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Sweet Square said:
Clearly you value the Ballon d'or a lot higher than I do. And I will have to disagree with you on the point about millions of players dream about winning the Ballon d'or I would rather say they dream of winning actually trophies like the World Cup(When I was a kid I didn't even know it existed). I would find it rather sad if a player actively cared about the Ballon d'or which is at it's very core a individual for what is a team sport.

Your point about winning it puts you in the discussion is simply not true as a certain Diego Maradona has a total of 0 wins as does Garrincha and Zizo. So clearly in terms of putting name in the hat it's not very important at all.

The Ballon d'or is the footballing Oscars and it's holds about the same amount of substance as well.
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You hold a low value of it and assume that the rest of the football supporting world does too.

You're very wrong, it's a big deal. That's a fact and 99% of footballers would give everything to earn a ballon d'or and all that comes with it.
 
Pexbo said:
You hold a low value of it and assume that the rest of the football supporting world does too.

You're very wrong, it's a big deal. That's a fact and 99% of footballers would give everything to earn a ballon d'or and all that comes with it.
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We aren't going to agree. But I would say finally that my argument isn't that it's completely wrong to want to win the ballon d'or but that it shouldn't be the main goal of a player to win one. And that it would be rather sad if it was.
 
Sweet Square said:
We aren't going to agree. But I would say finally that my argument isn't that it's completely wrong to want to win the ballon d'or but that it shouldn't be the main goal of a player to win one. And that it would be rather sad if it was.
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Who said it's anyone's main goal? I'm just arguing that it's far from the pointless vanity item you're dismissing it as.
 
Sweet Square said:
We aren't going to agree. But I would say finally that my argument isn't that it's completely wrong to want to win the ballon d'or but that it shouldn't be the main goal of a player to win one. And that it would be rather sad if it was.
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Being the best player in the world is a sad goal? An individual can't control whether their left back makes a mistake and costs the team a league/CL/WC, they can (to a much greater extent) control their own performances. Being the best player that they have the capacity to be is the ultimate goal for any footballer or professional athlete, team success is dependent on a million other factors outside their individual control.
 
Lu Tze said:
Being the best player in the world is a sad goal? An individual can't control whether their left back makes a mistake and costs the team a league/CL/WC, they can (to a much greater extent) control their own performances. Being the best player that they have the capacity to be is the ultimate goal for any footballer or professional athlete, team success is dependent on a million other factors outside their individual control.
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Absolutely. If anything, then such a goal will only make him more determinded to play well which will benefit his team too. I think the Ballon d'Or is a natural goal for any player of his calibre.
 
Lu Tze said:
Being the best player in the world is a sad goal? An individual can't control whether their left back makes a mistake and costs the team a league/CL/WC, they can (to a much greater extent) control their own performances. Being the best player that they have the capacity to be is the ultimate goal for any footballer or professional athlete, team success is dependent on a million other factors outside their individual control.
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I'm with Sweet Square on this. It does irk me a bit that there's so much focus on individuals in a team sport. Individual awards are a good way to recognise the great individuals (as long as they aren't publicity contests) but I'd find it weird if anyone prefers them to team trophies.
 
Not sure which paper but just seen a tweet from the BBC about their gossip collumn suggesting that Barca, yes Barca will battle with United for his signature :lol:

Incredible that people get paid to write such bollocks.
 
saivet said:
Not sure which paper but just seen a tweet from the BBC about their gossip collumn suggesting that Barca, yes Barca will battle with United for his signature :lol:

Incredible that people get paid to write such bollocks.
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It's doesn't end there. It's even more bollocks than you think. According to some portuguese press, Laporta met with Jorge Mendes to know the conditions in a future Ronaldo/Mourinho transfer in time for the Barcelona elections :lol: Just needs Figo as DOF
 
Sly said:
It's doesn't end there. It's even more bollocks than you think. According to some portuguese press, Laporta met with Jorge Mendes to know the conditions in a future Ronaldo/Mourinho transfer in time for the Barcelona elections :lol: Just needs Figo as DOF
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:lol: That all would be hilarious!
 
Pexbo said:
Who said it's anyone's main goal? I'm just arguing that it's far from the pointless vanity item you're dismissing it as.
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Sorry do you not imply it was in your original post here
Pexbo said:
he's saying he'd be in big trouble because he'd be questioning the integrity of FIFA. The truth is, the last thing he wants to do is piss off FIFA because he knows they hold the keys to his dreams.
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:).

But as you said we are really only arguing about the value of the ballon d'or. And I don't think it's completely unnecessary(It's a nice bit of shiny fun like the Oscars). But it shouldn't have any effect when judging a player.

Again I will point out that Diego Maradona has a total of ZERO.
 
ADJUDICATOR said:
Cristiano Ronaldo probably prefers them to team trophies.
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Probably. He's weird like that, doesn't even celebrate when his team mates score most of the time. It obviously helps him become the player he is though.
 
Why would his manager and teammates allow Ronaldo to put himself above the team, if it would be a detriment to the team? it's completely illogical. Surely those great managers: Sir Alex, Ancelloti, Mourinho who've made Ronaldo the main man all these years are not that stupid.
 
Isotope said:
Why would his manager and teammates allow Ronaldo to put himself above the team, if it would be a detriment to the team? it's completely illogical. Surely those great managers: Sir Alex, Ancelloti, Mourinho who've made Ronaldo the main man all these years are not that stupid.
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The God knows how many cups and titles he has won have all be collateral to getting the best out of Ronaldo and the process of elevating him to GOAT. That's all those great managers care about.
 
Pexbo said:
The God knows how many cups and titles he has won have all be collateral to getting the best out of Ronaldo and the process of elevating him to GOAT. That's all those great managers care about.
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They all could be Ronaldo's ancestors pets in their previous life.
 
SirAF said:
Ah, I wasn't aware that this made him the highest scorer in the history of the European Championship!
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It also made him the all-time leading scorer against Armenia in European Championships qualifying games played in Group I. :rolleyes:
 
SirAF said:
Please.. It's a pretty impressive feat.
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It's fairly impressive indeed (without further context anyway) and he's certainly recovered his NT form (to 2004-06 levels) and additionally upped his goalscoring record by quite a lot in the past 2-3 years (same for Messi and Rooney who were also underperforming massively in that same period 2007-11). Still it remains a mystery how two all-timers like Cristiano and Messi can be so relatively and comparatively underwhelming on the big (international) stage.

All-time goalscorers in European Championship (incl. qualifying)
1. Cristiano, 23
2. Tomasson, 22
3. Keane/Sükür/Koller, 21
4. Suker, 20

Tournament proper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UEFA_European_Championship_goalscorers

Was impressed with him v Denmark last time out (very team-oriented), didn't see the Armenia game, so don't know how good he was apart from scoring the 2nd decisive goal in a row! Also the only 2 goals Portugal have scored in 3 games so far, I think? What would you say of him and Portugal in this new qualifying campaign, what's your impression? @Sly
 
Skorenzy said:
It's fairly impressive indeed (without further context anyway) and he's certainly recovered his NT form (to 2004-06 levels) and additionally upped his goalscoring record by quite a lot in the past 2-3 years (same for Messi and Rooney who were also underperforming massively in that same period 2007-11). Still it remains a mystery how two all-timers like Cristiano and Messi can be so relatively and comparatively underwhelming on the big (international) stage.

All-time goalscorers in European Championship (incl. qualifying)
1. Cristiano, 23
2. Tomasson, 22
3. Keane/Sükür/Koller, 21
4. Suker, 20

Tournament proper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UEFA_European_Championship_goalscorers

Was impressed with him v Denmark last time out (very team-oriented), didn't see the Armenia game, so don't know how good he was apart from scoring the 2nd decisive goal in a row! Also the only 2 goals Portugal have scored in 3 games so far, I think? What would you say of him and Portugal in this new qualifying campaign, what's your impression? @Sly
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Sort of. He was rubbish at the World Cup.
 
I half watched the Portugal game last night (aka it was on TV while I was keeping tabs on other games on here and the BBC). From what I saw it was one of those games where the stats tell you the story: Possession 69% Portugal.

Portugal 30 shots (a good percentage of them must have been from Ronaldo) but only 5 on target - a lot of fairly desperate stuff against a packed penalty box. Armenia 9 shots, 6 on target - which fitted with the impression I got that they could have scored every time they were able to break.

In the end it worked because Ronaldo scored a tap in from an attack that went pinballing around. For most of the game, Ronaldo's main contribution was his sheer dogged determination, he doesn't stop trying. It was more that mental strength than his footballing skill that delivered last night, though he did put in a couple of nice crosses and he could/should have scored earlier having set himself up nicely.
 
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