Cristiano Ronaldo

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There it is! He got his goal :lol:

Career goal number 449
 
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Whoscored.com rates him 10/10 for the last match. What I saw was a very frustrated Ronaldo with poor passing and heavy first touch and two unintentional assists. I know this sounds funny, but if you had watched the game you can tell something is wrong.

I hope he gets back to his best form soon.
 
Whoscored.com rates him 10/10 for the last match. What I saw was a very frustrated Ronaldo with poor passing and heavy first touch and two unintentional assists. I know this sounds funny, but if you had watched the game you can tell something is wrong.

I hope he gets back to his best form soon.

Eh? Don't think either assist was unintentional (the 1st one he probably hadn't planned on laying it off, looking to take a shot instead, but he improvised very well and his dribble had created a lot of space for Kroos so that was a very good decision), but his goal was quite terrible though :D
 
Whoscored.com rates him 10/10 for the last match. What I saw was a very frustrated Ronaldo with poor passing and heavy first touch and two unintentional assists. I know this sounds funny, but if you had watched the game you can tell something is wrong.

I hope he gets back to his best form soon.

It wasn't a 10/10 for sure! However, he still got the numbers, two assist and a goal is a job well done either way.
 
Whoscored.com rates him 10/10 for the last match. What I saw was a very frustrated Ronaldo with poor passing and heavy first touch and two unintentional assists. I know this sounds funny, but if you had watched the game you can tell something is wrong.

I hope he gets back to his best form soon.
:lol: That's ridiculous. Our best players were Ramos, Kroos and Benzema imo. And I wouldn't have rated any of them an 8 tonight.
 
Whoscored.com rates him 10/10 for the last match. What I saw was a very frustrated Ronaldo with poor passing and heavy first touch and two unintentional assists. I know this sounds funny, but if you had watched the game you can tell something is wrong.

I hope he gets back to his best form soon.

Ya it does sound funny. I laughed.
 
He's been to his sulky old self the last 2 games. Thought he had cut that bit from his game but apparently you can't chane a tiger's stripes.
 
:lol: That's ridiculous. Our best players were Ramos, Kroos and Benzema imo. And I wouldn't have rated any of them an 8 tonight.

whoscored.com is useless when it comes to rating. Well useless is probably not right word but their ratings don't give true picture. It is useful though to find out number of different types of stats, both defensive and offensive.
 
Yeah the algorithms to work the rating out make sense statistically ie 2 assists, a goal and passing percentage was probably good etc but just like the 5-1 result itself, it wasn't anywhere as clear cut as how it looked on paper, same applies for Ronaldo.
 
Why would you judge a player based on talent, not on what they accomplished with the talent and results and hard work?

Many factors can determine what you accomplish tough. The team you play in, the manager you play for etc. It's not an exact science but I rarely have to switch my opinions on players I watch them for a while before making any concrete statements rather than getting carried away like most fans.
 
Thought some may be interested in Charlton's quotes:

When he recently spoke with the Daily Mail, Bobby Charlton was full of praise for Cristiano Ronaldo, who recently received the MARCA 'Pichichi' award as the top 'La Liga' goalscorer last season.

"Cristiano Ronaldo is changing the game in Spain. With all that pace and power and athleticism, he is driving Real Madrid back into dominance both there and in Europe" he said.

The legendary former 'Red Devil' also discussed the Portuguese star's Ballon d'Or. "You don’t sit back playing 10-yard passes the way you’re facing with this lad in your team. You go for it. I'm so glad he got his World Footballer of the Year Award. Lionel Messi is a great player, too, but Cristiano deserves the honour. He’s setting football alight", he said.

Charlton is still fond of the former United player, but he isn't upbeat on the chances of CR7 returning to Old Trafford: "Sadly, even though there’s been a lot of talk lately including him saying how much he loves United, I can’t see it ever being possible for us to get him back here".

Finally, he fired a barb at Guardiola, saying: "That tiki-taka has been found out now and even Pep Guardiola is moving away from the Barcelona way at Bayern Munich. It is going out of fashion, thank goodness".
 
Thought some may be interested in Charlton's quotes:


I echo his sentiments. There's nothing wrong with disliking Tiki Taka. Once you get past actually analysing it and appreciating the technicalities of it, it's incredibly boring and fraustrating to watch.

Counter attacking with a solid defensive base will always be infinitely more entertaining.
 
I echo his sentiments. There's nothing wrong with disliking Tiki Taka. Once you get past actually analysing it and appreciating the technicalities of it, it's incredibly boring and fraustrating to watch.

Counter attacking with a solid defensive base will always be infinitely more entertaining.

I love watching tiki taka.
 
Counter attack is not a style, is just another tool you can use in the course of a football match. "Tiki taka" or wathever you call what is associated with using as much posession as possible in football doesn't have an opposition, you either play well or play bad, having the ball a lot and making the most of it is not a style, what Barcelona did is playing the game of football better.

The Barcelona way was having Xavi and Iniesta, Pep can't replicate that in Bayern because he doesn't have the same personal.

The whole tiki taka debate is the biggest misconception in the history of the game.
 
I love watching tiki taka.

You would... :p

Counter attack is not a style, is just another tool you can use in the course of a football match. "Tiki taka" or wathever you cal what is associated with using as much posession as possible in football doesn't have an opposition, you either play well or play bad, having the ball a lot and making the most of it is not a style, what Barcelona did is playing the game of football better.

Counter attacking is absolutely a style of play. It's not just the act of blasting forward in numbers with pace, it's far more complicated than that. It's a delicate balance of defence and attack, having the players to soak the pressure and invite the opposition into your own half. The balance of marking the opposition defensively while creating space in the right areas should possession be turned over.
 
Load of nonsense from Sir Bobby. Tiki taka hasn't been found out. If Barca did it as well as they used to they'd still the the best team around. Just like everything else wasn't "found out" when that team were dominant. Sir Bobby sounds rather set and fixated in his ways.
 
Barcelona did play the game better but in turn completely destroyed everything that makes football watchable and turned it all into a robotic procession.
 
Barcelona did play the game better but in turn completely destroyed everything that makes football watchable and turned it all into a robotic procession.
Like technical football of the absolute highest standard and control.

I personally prefer a quicker style of football but this post is laughably shit.
 
You would... :p



Counter attacking is absolutely a style of play. It's not just the act of blasting forward in numbers with pace, it's far more complicated than that. It's a delicate balance of defence and attack, having the players to soak the pressure and invite the opposition into your own half. The balance of marking the opposition defensively while creating space in the right areas should possession be turned over.


Well, you are describing a phase of the game, a tool a team can use to score a goal and win a match. Sometimes you are going to defend, sometimes you are going to attack, sometimes you are going to use the tool of counter attacking. You priorize the different tools you have according to your players and the different necessities of a football match. Counter attacking is not a style just as tiki taka is not a style, they are different aspects of the game, counter attacking to take the best of the space you create on the opposition or keep the ball and find space with players with a good vision and technical ability.

Not a single team in the world is set just to apply one of these tools, that would be foolish.

Barcelona did play the game better but in turn completely destroyed everything that makes football watchable and turned it all into a robotic procession.

You mean playing the game better than others is destroying football? Yep that makes a lot of sense.
 
Like technical football of the absolute highest standard and control.

I personally prefer a quicker style of football but this post is laughably shit.

I appreciate the technical skill, I genuinely do, it was always beyond impressive but football is exciting and watchable when two teams have a go, it's end to end and both teams have a slice of the pie. Barça matches became glorified training exercises because the other team rarely had the ball. If you're gonna have the ball 80% of the time you'd think they'd be winning 8/9/10-0 all the time as well but they spent far too much time passing for passing's sake.
 
Well, you are describing a phase of the game, a tool a team can use to score a goal and win a match. Sometimes you are going to defend, sometimes you are going to attack, sometimes you are going to use the tool of counter attacking. You priorize the different tools you have according to your players and the different necessities of a football match. Counter attacking is not a style just as tiki taka is not a style, they are different aspects of the game, counter attacking to take the best of the space you create on the opposition or keep the ball and find space with players with a good vision and technical ability.

Not a single team in the world is set just to apply one of these tools, that would be foolish.



You mean playing the game better than others is destroying football? Yep that makes a lot of sense.

Well tiki taka is a "phase of the game" if we are going to be pedantic. All tiki taka means is when you have the ball, you retain possession and work the ball around the field playing high percentage football patiently waiting for and forging an opening. That's all Tiki Taka is. A tool in exactly the same way counter attacking is.

The pressing up high up the field and other philosophies Guardiola employed at Barcelona are unrelated to Tiki Taka other than the fact he used them together.

Tiki Taka = patient with the ball, generally press in their half, many passes to generate opportunity.

Counter attack = press in own half, invite pressure and then charge into attack quickly exploiting any gaps. Number of passes generally low but irrelevant.

Both are generally referred to as "styles" as it's what characterises a teams way of playing.
 
Well tiki taka is a "phase of the game" if we are going to be pedantic. All tiki taka means is when you have the ball, you retain possession and work the ball around the field playing high percentage football patiently waiting for and forging an opening. That's all Tiki Taka is. A tool in exactly the same way counter attacking is.

The pressing up high up the field and other philosophies Guardiola employed at Barcelona are unrelated to Tiki Taka other than the fact he used them together.

Tiki Taka = patient with the ball, generally press in their half, many passes to generate opportunity.

Counter attack = press in own half, invite pressure and then charge into attack quickly exploiting any gaps. Number of passes generally low but irrelevant.

Both are generally referred to as "styles" as it's what characterises a teams way of playing.


For me style is different, the style is defined by the players and the vision of the manager, but aspects like tiki taka and counter attack can't be defined as a style, to me "style" as the connotation that a team is set to play that way. There's not a team in the world that is focused on just one aspect of the game.
 
Just had this retweeted onto my twitter timeline :lol: :lol: :lol:

According to Real Madrid players, Cristiano Ronaldo uses the nickname 'motherfecker' for Lionel Messi behind closed doors. [via telegraph]
 
Just had this retweeted onto my twitter timeline :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, Ballague wrote that in his new book apparently. Also that whoever is seen talking to Messi is called motherfecker by Ronaldo and his teammates. and Ronaldo's teammates call Messi his little dog..

I'll take that with a pinch of salt but then again it wouldnt surprise me tbh.
 
Yep, Ballague wrote that in his new book apparently. Also that whoever is seen talking to Messi is called motherfecker by Ronaldo and his teammates. and Ronaldo's teammates call Messi his little dog..

I'll take that with a pinch of salt but then again it wouldnt surprise me tbh.

Wouldn't be surprised either, Madrid squad are superficial bunch remember Mourinho saying players used to check mirrors before going out on the pitch, wouldn't be surprised if they bitched like a bunch of girls either.
 
Cristiano Ronaldo seems to be a resentful person, who feels familiar with the superficial and ordinary values of a club like Real Madrid.
 
Yep, Ballague wrote that in his new book apparently. Also that whoever is seen talking to Messi is called motherfecker by Ronaldo and his teammates. and Ronaldo's teammates call Messi his little dog..

I'll take that with a pinch of salt but then again it wouldnt surprise me tbh.

I think it was Guti who after leaving Madrid said that Ronaldo would get visibly upset and frustrated whenever Messi scored.
 
Yep, Ballague wrote that in his new book apparently. Also that whoever is seen talking to Messi is called motherfecker by Ronaldo and his teammates. and Ronaldo's teammates call Messi his little dog..

I'll take that with a pinch of salt but then again it wouldnt surprise me tbh.

:D
 
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